Posted on 01/23/2006 8:03:44 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps
If JimRob, etc. approve this is the Live Thread for the Canadian General Election, on January 23rd, 2005.
We have a while to go before the returns start coming in, but I thought the thread needed to get up and running.
Could you please take your discussion of future french demographics to another thread.
3 seats close to call...CPC could still win 2 more...get up to 11 from 9.
Thank you. And good luck up there.
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I don't believe Muslim women within France are having 5 or 6 children. You don't see fertility rates like that in the Arab world any more, with the exception of Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and the Palestinian zones. The North African countries where most French Muslims come from have seen a big drop in fertility rates.
Check out this chart from Algeria. This is one of the most underreported stories of recent years.
http://atlas.globalhealth.org/indicator_detail.cfm?IndicatorID=138&Country=DZ
We have experience with disappointment.
Just a little something to compare results by. Vote by provinces/territory for the 2004 elections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Can2004.PNG
Imagine being a republican pre 1994.
The Canadian network and the Buffalo station bumped it to 8 because of the election coverage beginning at 9.
I'm not so sure Ontario can change stripes either.
I don't know, I would say 'edgy' tonight. I go to school here now, but being at a univ (i.e. very liberal) I try to keep my politics on FR :-)
Preliminary results from the east, from another board 32 seats:
Last Parliament:
25 Lib
7 Conservative
This Election:
20 Lib
9 Conservative
3 Commie/Socialist
This is actually very good for the conservatives.
Will the Liberals do a New Zealand? (In September it was predicted Labour could lose but they managed a comeback in the election and just survived in power)
Well every little bit helps...and I'd rather be at 11 than 9.
Here's hoping we can pick up all three.
I was a Republican in Texas back in the old days. We were used to getting our clocks cleaned by the Dems. Defeat breeds a defeatist attitude. Even if you don't get everything you want in this election, build on every success you get.
So long as France has such a generous welfare state, they will need young workers to pay for all of those 55-year-olds that retire with full government benefits. With people living until they're much older, and with the French not having children, France will be forced to allow increasing numbers of immigrants. Maybe more of those will come from Eastern Europe, but I think Algeria will continue to be France's #1 source of young workers (remember that Eastern Europe's birthrate is well below replacement level).
I hope I'm wrong. Western Europeans have proven to be wholly incapable of standing up for Christianity during the past 50 years, and Western Europe will have Sharia law if Islamists (such as most Algerian immigrants) become a majority or even a large and noisy minority in France, the Netherlands, etc. (And when Western Europe adopts Sharia law, just think about what Justice Kennedy will be citing in his opinions.)
Not really.
Every seat counts, if we're going to get a majority.
Well, we won't be getting one. Unless a miracle happens in Quebec and we win twenty seats.
Actually, in the last election it was:
22 Lib
7 Conservative
3 NDP
http://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/2004results.html#2004
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