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Canadian General Election, Live Thread (UPDATE: Conservatives Win!)
Elections Canada ^ | N/A

Posted on 01/23/2006 8:03:44 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps

If JimRob, etc. approve this is the Live Thread for the Canadian General Election, on January 23rd, 2005.

We have a while to go before the returns start coming in, but I thought the thread needed to get up and running.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; canadianelection; conservatives; consevatives; election; liberals; paulmartin; stephenharper; throwthebumsout
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To: proud_yank
Wow....Metallurgical engineer,...way to go!

I was a CNC Underwater gantry Plasma operator,....allong with cutting big steel and alloy,
had to do ultrasound and other inspection metallurgy wise for Consortiums.
Crunching numbers on plate from around the world....phone calls to U.S. to see if engineers would accept % differences in matrix of plate chem.
worked around Nuclear x ray....was also a shift rescue first aid.
Light Speed knows major blood flow : )

BP and Chevron really screwed up on a 3 year North Slope Alaska project....[Badami]
We kept getting work from Chevron after....but BP vanished off the radar.
I think there was a falling out after Badami.

Some of my shifts started with....
"We just got this Inconel alloy plate in......its worth $20,000....you have 3/8's margin for mistake....don't screw up"
plasma cut takes an 1/8th....not much room left....lots of nail biting and prayer : )

1,921 posted on 01/23/2006 11:56:58 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: TheBigB

Farewell, Martin!


1,922 posted on 01/24/2006 12:03:17 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Heatseeker

Congrats to Canada!


1,923 posted on 01/24/2006 12:06:24 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
If Canada's Arctic keeps warming as trends indicate.....in a decade....shipping container traffic might have 4-5 months transit time.
rumors that Canada may have loading terminals up north with connector container rail link to U.S.
Canada's arctic also has mugu resorces which Chi Coms have seen allready and are pining to have in at.
I think U.S. Corporate interst and world corporate synergy would like a Conservative Gov in place for that over Liberal.
I beleive the U.S. will help the Conservatives allong thru the oil/gas[current]....and into the future Arctic business play.

Their is great things instore for Canada and U.S. in this.

1,924 posted on 01/24/2006 12:10:08 AM PST by Light Speed
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To: beaver fever

Looking at the reactions of Canadians here and on Free Dominion to this election, I rather think you got your expections too high in the past several weeks, thinking that the Conservatives would be swept to a grand, insurmountable majority, etc. etc. But that was all based on polls (we should all be very wary of polls) and voters tend to get more and more cautious about voting for sweeping change as the election nears; as you might remember, the exact same thing happened in Germany, where Merkel was riding a massive tidal wave throughout the campaign and yet barely managed to scrap her win together in the end.

Since the anticipated Conservative majority didn't happen you're letdown. But despite what disheartened Canadian conservatives, as well relieved Canadian liberals, are saying, this is still a major victory. It is a victory simply to get those crooks out of power and now the Conservatives will have a chance to govern. Hopefully they will to it well and convince the citizenry to vote them even more seats next time. Yes, it is a long, hard slog. It has always been. Here in the United States our "conservative revolution" hasn't been any less difficult. In took 20+ years of the nascent conservative movement to grow strong enough give us President Reagan and reconfigure the political spectrum enough to make such a conservative ascendency possible. It took another 6 years after Reagan to win the House and by then triangulating Clinton had slipped in. It then took another 6 years to get the Democrats out the White House (by the skin of our teeth and losing the popular vote), another 2 years to win the Senate, and we still had a pretty close presidential campaign in 2004. And we STILL have to deal with ALL SORTS of democrat whining and obstructionism and republican wishy-washyness; it's still an endless brutal fight. And American conservatives, from what I've seen, tend to be quite optomistic about the way things are going. Canadian conservative should be too, in the face of this election, even though the battle is not even close to over: it has only just begun.


1,925 posted on 01/24/2006 12:11:30 AM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: Light Speed

Doesn't Canada supply us with the most gasoline supplies? More than arabic countries?


1,926 posted on 01/24/2006 12:12:33 AM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (God bless Canada!)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband

"Doesn't Canada supply us with the most gasoline supplies? More than arabic countries?
"


Yup.


1,927 posted on 01/24/2006 12:14:30 AM PST by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Doesn't Canada supply us with the most gasoline supplies? More than arabic countries?

Yes....that kinda goes under the radar when world oil prices are margined in the news.

Alot of Natural Gas too.

We also cooperate with U.S. Federal law.
We lost several contracts which were blocked by Congress to Venezuela.
The U.S. arranged for the U.S. Consortiums fabricating up here in Calgary....with alternative projects in places like Saudi Arabia,Kuwait etc.
There were no layoffs....just a slow down...and then 2 yrs more work.
U.S. oil patch and Gov have shown regard for whats gets made for them here in Alberta.
It has been a great working relationship : )

1,928 posted on 01/24/2006 12:21:54 AM PST by Light Speed
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To: fanfan; GMMAC; Torie; Heatseeker
These are pretty much the final preliminary Elections Canada tallies, except for a handful of polls in Quebec, Ontario and Nunavut.  A few ridings may be close enough to trigger an automatic recount:

 
Leading:
Popular vote (%):
Cons.
124
36.3
Lib.
103
30.2
B.Q.
51
10.5
N.D.P.
29
17.5
Other
1
5.6
Total
308
100
 
  Total seats:  308
  Majority:  155

Preliminary Results
Newfoundland and Labrador Last updated: 01:49 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Conservative 3 42.9 42.9% 96,924 42.7 42.7%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 2,090 0.9 0.9%
Liberal 4 57.1 57.1% 97,269 42.8 42.8%
N.D.P. 0 0.0 0.0% 30,849 13.6 13.6%
Total number of valid votes:       227,132    

Polls reporting: 1,496/1,496 Voter turnout: 227,132 of 400,013 registered electors (56.8%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.


Prince Edward Island Last updated: 01:49 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Christian Heritage Party 0 0.0 0.0% 97 0.1 0.1%
Conservative 0 0.0 0.0% 26,147 33.4 33.4%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 3,024 3.9 3.9%
Independent 0 0.0 0.0% 219 0.3 0.3%
Liberal 4 100.0 100.0% 41,094 52.5 52.5%
Marijuana Party 0 0.0 0.0% 193 0.3 0.3%
N.D.P. 0 0.0 0.0% 7,491 9.6 9.6%
Total number of valid votes:       78,265    

Polls reporting: 345/345 Voter turnout: 78,265 of 106,261 registered electors (73.7%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.


Nova Scotia Last updated: 01:49 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Christian Heritage Party 0 0.0 0.0% 1,376 0.3 0.3%
Conservative 3 27.3 27.3% 141,502 29.7 29.7%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 12,495 2.6 2.6%
Independent 0 0.0 0.0% 1,204 0.3 0.3%
Liberal 6 54.6 54.6% 177,093 37.2 37.2%
Marijuana Party 0 0.0 0.0% 436 0.1 0.1%
Marxist-Leninist 0 0.0 0.0% 344 0.1 0.1%
N.D.P. 2 18.2 18.2% 142,223 29.8 29.8%
Total number of valid votes:       476,673    

Polls reporting: 2,339/2,339 Voter turnout: 476,673 of 749,714 registered electors (63.6%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.



New Brunswick Last updated: 02:33 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Canadian Action 0 0.0 0.0% 148 0.0 0.0%
Conservative 3 30.0 30.0% 145,619 35.8 35.8%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 9,939 2.4 2.4%
Independent 0 0.0 0.0% 2,876 0.7 0.7%
Liberal 6 60.0 60.0% 159,658 39.2 39.2%
N.D.P. 1 10.0 10.0% 89,133 21.9 21.9%
Total number of valid votes:       407,373    

Polls reporting: 1,940/1,940 Voter turnout: 407,373 of 589,176 registered electors (69.1%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.


Quebec Last updated: 02:48 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Bloc Québécois 51 68.0 68.0% 1,552,043 42.1 42.1%
Canadian Action 0 0.0 0.0% 186 0.0 0.0%
Christian Heritage Party 0 0.0 0.0% 120 0.0 0.0%
Communist 0 0.0 0.0% 169 0.0 0.0%
Conservative 10 13.3 13.3% 906,741 24.6 24.6%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 146,958 4.0 4.0%
Independent 1 1.3 1.3% 32,466 0.9 0.9%
Liberal 13 17.3 17.3% 764,693 20.7 20.7%
Libertarian 0 0.0 0.0% 477 0.0 0.0%
Marijuana Party 0 0.0 0.0% 1,866 0.1 0.1%
Marxist-Leninist 0 0.0 0.0% 3,259 0.1 0.1%
N.D.P. 0 0.0 0.0% 277,698 7.5 7.5%
PC Party 0 0.0 0.0% 2,535 0.1 0.1%
Total number of valid votes:       3,689,211    

Polls reporting: 16,303/16,319 Voter turnout: 3,689,211 of 5,830,797 registered electors (63.3%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.


Ontario Last updated: 02:34 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
AACEV Party of Canada 0 0.0 0.0% 72 0.0 0.0%
Canadian Action 0 0.0 0.0% 2,476 0.0 0.0%
Christian Heritage Party 0 0.0 0.0% 16,720 0.3 0.3%
Communist 0 0.0 0.0% 1,661 0.0 0.0%
Conservative 40 37.7 37.7% 1,985,548 35.1 35.1%
FPNP 0 0.0 0.0% 562 0.0 0.0%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 264,172 4.7 4.7%
Independent 0 0.0 0.0% 8,812 0.2 0.2%
Liberal 54 50.9 50.9% 2,260,414 39.9 39.9%
Libertarian 0 0.0 0.0% 1,635 0.0 0.0%
Marijuana Party 0 0.0 0.0% 4,243 0.1 0.1%
Marxist-Leninist 0 0.0 0.0% 3,708 0.1 0.1%
N.D.P. 12 11.3 11.3% 1,100,478 19.4 19.4%
No Affiliation 0 0.0 0.0% 384 0.0 0.0%
PC Party 0 0.0 0.0% 9,859 0.2 0.2%
Total number of valid votes:       5,660,744    

Polls reporting: 24,018/24,020 Voter turnout: 5,660,744 of 8,409,060 registered electors (67.3%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.


Manitoba Last updated: 01:49 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Canadian Action 0 0.0 0.0% 72 0.0 0.0%
Christian Heritage Party 0 0.0 0.0% 2,866 0.6 0.6%
Communist 0 0.0 0.0% 450 0.1 0.1%
Conservative 8 57.1 57.1% 220,429 42.8 42.8%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 19,966 3.9 3.9%
Independent 0 0.0 0.0% 5,777 1.1 1.1%
Liberal 3 21.4 21.4% 134,024 26.0 26.0%
N.D.P. 3 21.4 21.4% 130,740 25.4 25.4%
PC Party 0 0.0 0.0% 934 0.2 0.2%
Total number of valid votes:       515,258    

Polls reporting: 2,517/2,517 Voter turnout: 515,258 of 821,603 registered electors (62.7%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.



Saskatchewan Last updated: 01:49 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Canadian Action 0 0.0 0.0% 120 0.0 0.0%
Christian Heritage Party 0 0.0 0.0% 871 0.2 0.2%
Communist 0 0.0 0.0% 96 0.0 0.0%
Conservative 12 85.7 85.7% 226,187 48.9 48.9%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 14,923 3.2 3.2%
Independent 0 0.0 0.0% 1,039 0.2 0.2%
Liberal 2 14.3 14.3% 103,474 22.4 22.4%
N.D.P. 0 0.0 0.0% 111,132 24.0 24.0%
No Affiliation 0 0.0 0.0% 4,396 1.0 1.0%
Total number of valid votes:       462,238    

Polls reporting: 2,396/2,396 Voter turnout: 462,238 of 703,099 registered electors (65.7%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.


Alberta Last updated: 02:34 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Canadian Action 0 0.0 0.0% 1,101 0.1 0.1%
Christian Heritage Party 0 0.0 0.0% 2,869 0.2 0.2%
Communist 0 0.0 0.0% 324 0.0 0.0%
Conservative 28 100.0 100.0% 930,817 65.0 65.0%
FPNP 0 0.0 0.0% 683 0.1 0.1%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 93,919 6.6 6.6%
Independent 0 0.0 0.0% 14,261 1.0 1.0%
Liberal 0 0.0 0.0% 219,431 15.3 15.3%
Marijuana Party 0 0.0 0.0% 455 0.0 0.0%
Marxist-Leninist 0 0.0 0.0% 556 0.0 0.0%
N.D.P. 0 0.0 0.0% 167,566 11.7 11.7%
PC Party 0 0.0 0.0% 604 0.0 0.0%
WBP 0 0.0 0.0% 433 0.0 0.0%
Total number of valid votes:       1,433,019    

Polls reporting: 6,448/6,448 Voter turnout: 1,433,019 of 2,294,910 registered electors (62.4%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.



British Columbia Last updated: 03:16 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Canadian Action 0 0.0 0.0% 2,098 0.1 0.1%
Christian Heritage Party 0 0.0 0.0% 3,360 0.2 0.2%
Communist 0 0.0 0.0% 427 0.0 0.0%
Conservative 17 47.2 47.2% 681,846 37.3 37.3%
FPNP 0 0.0 0.0% 95 0.0 0.0%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 97,002 5.3 5.3%
Independent 0 0.0 0.0% 10,635 0.6 0.6%
Liberal 9 25.0 25.0% 504,138 27.6 27.6%
Libertarian 0 0.0 0.0% 891 0.1 0.1%
Marijuana Party 0 0.0 0.0% 1,395 0.1 0.1%
Marxist-Leninist 0 0.0 0.0% 1,422 0.1 0.1%
N.D.P. 10 27.8 27.8% 521,787 28.6 28.6%
No Affiliation 0 0.0 0.0% 425 0.0 0.0%
PC Party 0 0.0 0.0% 514 0.0 0.0%
WBP 0 0.0 0.0% 661 0.0 0.0%
Total number of valid votes:       1,826,696    

Polls reporting: 8,127/8,127 Voter turnout: 1,826,696 of 2,841,959 registered electors (64.3%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.


Yukon Last updated: 02:34 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Conservative 0 0.0 0.0% 3,341 23.7 23.7%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 559 4.0 4.0%
Liberal 1 100.0 100.0% 6,847 48.5 48.5%
N.D.P. 0 0.0 0.0% 3,366 23.9 23.9%
Total number of valid votes:       14,113    

Polls reporting: 97/97 Voter turnout: 14,113 of 21,196 registered electors (66.6%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.


Northwest Territories Last updated: 02:34 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Conservative 0 0.0 0.0% 3,200 19.8 19.8%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 373 2.3 2.3%
Independent 0 0.0 0.0% 149 0.9 0.9%
Liberal 0 0.0 0.0% 5,643 34.9 34.9%
N.D.P. 1 100.0 100.0% 6,801 42.1 42.1%
Total number of valid votes:       16,166    

Polls reporting: 89/89 Voter turnout: 16,166 of 28,396 registered electors (56.9%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.



Nunavut Last updated: 03:06 ET
Party Party standing %   Popular vote %  
Conservative 0 0.0 0.0% 2,602 29.6 29.6%
Green Party 0 0.0 0.0% 520 5.9 5.9%
Liberal 1 100.0 100.0% 3,439 39.1 39.1%
Marijuana Party 0 0.0 0.0% 687 7.8 7.8%
N.D.P. 0 0.0 0.0% 1,544 17.6 17.6%
Total number of valid votes:       8,792    

Polls reporting: 36/38 Voter turnout: 8,792 of 16,499 registered electors (53.3%)
The number of registered electors shown in this table does not include electors who registered on election day.


1,929 posted on 01/24/2006 12:22:25 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: proud_yank
The devolution of federal powers to the provinces will take Harper into a constitutional swamp.

Martin promised to remove the not withstanding clause. If Harper allows the NWC to be used willy nilly he will lose his power as a national leader.

Suddenly every mouth breathing provincial party will be able to thumb their noses at parliament. Do you want some hick provincial party dictating foreign policy?
1,930 posted on 01/24/2006 12:48:38 AM PST by beaver fever
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To: proud_yank

Yes it would and Canada would look more like the Helvetica Federation. So we would become Swiss.


1,931 posted on 01/24/2006 12:51:52 AM PST by beaver fever
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To: Light Speed

"We just got this Inconel alloy plate in......its worth $20,000....you have 3/8's margin for mistake....don't screw up
plasma cut takes an 1/8th....not much room left....lots of nail biting and prayer : )"

The inverse of plasm cutting; emersion arc welding.

You got to lay the track before you do the tack.

My ex FIL welded six inch plate most of his life.


1,932 posted on 01/24/2006 12:57:00 AM PST by beaver fever
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To: Heatseeker

easy on the eys, eh?


1,933 posted on 01/24/2006 12:59:50 AM PST by frankiep
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To: GreenLanternCorps; All

Together Again!

1,934 posted on 01/24/2006 1:07:21 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is Never Free)
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To: beaver fever
Amazing technology huh....but kinda scarry too,
My Plasma had banks of cryo nitrogen which was like 3 ft away.
They let go....and I fall to the ground and shatter like glass.

I'll take a burn from welding over a lance rod thru 8" steel.
blow back slag is unforgiving : )

Had a Pigeon land in the gantry tank and swim around while cut was occuring.
Must have been a Bronx Pigeon : )

1,935 posted on 01/24/2006 1:19:03 AM PST by Light Speed
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To: conservative in nyc

That's a very informative voter breakdown. Great job!


1,936 posted on 01/24/2006 1:34:21 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is Never Free)
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To: Light Speed
Yeah my FIL was a merchant mariner during WWII and worked on a deep sea tug before he got his welder's ticket.

Got knocked out of his bunk when the tug went aground and sunk like a rock.

He went to shore work after that.

The man knew about every alloy because he worked with the material.

Never went beyond high school. I learned to draw a decent bead from him. He sold me his 1948 Miller welder before he retired. The thing had more copper in it than most modern copper mines. It weighed a ton but could pump out 100 amp unit cycle welds all day long without stalling or overheating. I used 1/4" nickel rod on that thing and it asked for more and a free lunch afterwords.
1,937 posted on 01/24/2006 1:37:06 AM PST by beaver fever
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To: beaver fever
Wow...Merchant Mariner duty was way dangerous...especially off U.S. East Coast 41-43.

U Boats would sink traffic right in ST Lawrence seaway...having passed U.S. navy Bases at Argentia Newfoundland allong with Canadian.

You could see the lights on the coast shore east coast....and still be in grave danger.

Speaking of welding,
Had an English fella in a fab shop who used to weld rigs in North Sea.
He said they would do overhead weld in shifts for a week straight....talk about arm and body position fatigue.

poor fella was an alcoholic though...they fired him for being late several times.
even in his condition....you could see his weld skill.

1,938 posted on 01/24/2006 1:54:51 AM PST by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed

When I was a member of a Street Rod club these two Welsh welders emigrated to Canada.

They made coal skittles in the old country.

Our boys taught them how to hammer weld sheet metal.

When they got the hang of it one of the members of our club, who was a mechanical engineere hired them to chop and channel his duece model A and lengthen the frame to fit a long block Ford engine.

They made everything from scratch, fenders hood with hinged side panels and cut two inches out of the body full length before they channelled it over the frame.

The fender aprons were made from 17 different pieces of steel with hand made patterns. The thing was a work of art.


1,939 posted on 01/24/2006 2:08:32 AM PST by beaver fever
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
If it can happen in Canada, I'm hoping the right can re-take the bay area, somehow. I pray.

No cons elected in Vancouver, and maybe 1 in Toronto. Best not get your hopes up based on this election. Sorry about that. (filter by British Columbia. Not easy to do same for TO)
1,940 posted on 01/24/2006 2:11:08 AM PST by caveat emptor
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