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Teens charged after rifle exchange (more zero tolerance at school?)
Finger Lakes Times ^ | Wednesday, January 11, 2006 | By DENISE M. CHAMPAGNE

Posted on 01/11/2006 10:58:18 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

OVID NY— Two teenagers were charged Tuesday after allegedly having a rifle in the parking lot of South Seneca Central Junior/Senior High School at 7263 Main St.

District Superintendent Janie Nusser said a student came on campus with a rifle in her car to give it to the rifle’s owner who was another student. She said they made the transfer in the school parking lot in violation of board policy and state law.

“I think when students saw the rifle, they were concerned and reported it to adults and we immediately called law enforcement,” Nusser said.

“I think what heightened people’s concerns was the student that was the owner of the gun had been involved in an argument with another student just prior to the transfer. At this time in the investigation, we do not see a connection between the two incidents.”

Nusser said the incident happened at the end of the school day and reports of a lockdown are untrue.

“It’s an ongoing investigation, so for me to give you much information would be premature,” she said.

Nusser would not name the students, but Seneca County sheriff’s deputies charged Jeffrey R. Warne, 17, of 7904 Route 89, Interlaken, and Jessica L. Prindle-Ike, 16, of 8494 Mill St., Lodi, with fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon.

Deputies said the .22-caliber rifle was not pointed at anyone during the incident.

The teens were ticketed and are to appear Jan. 30 in Ovid Town Court.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; bradywatch; dims; guns; lawyers; money; rkba; schools
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To: SittinYonder
Except that it's against the law to have a gun on school property.

A lot of things are against the "law". Many of them supposedly protected by the Constitution, particularly anything involving arms.

81 posted on 01/11/2006 12:55:18 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: MineralMan
Like it or not, it seems to me that everybody knows that you can't take firearms to school. It may or may not be a stupid law, but there it is.

I wonder how many don't realize the laws apply to all the property of the school, not just the buildings? But you are right, it's a stupid law, completely ignored by its putative targets.

82 posted on 01/11/2006 12:57:12 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I used to shoot .22 target rifle at a range IN the High School.

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So did I and Alec Baldwin's father was the coach.

83 posted on 01/11/2006 12:59:12 PM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: MineralMan
That might be stupid, but I also don't want the local young Crips passing guns in the parking lot of the High School near me.

Would it make you happier if they went to the parking lot of the local stop-and-rob and passed them there?

84 posted on 01/11/2006 12:59:19 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: wtc911

How 'bout that! Does he stay with Alec when he's in France? :)


85 posted on 01/11/2006 1:01:37 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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To: dmz
Can mall policy trump a constitional right to bear arms?

Sure, it's a private business. They can't throw you in jail or fine you for it though, unless you refuse to leave when asked, then it's trespassing. A school, except a private school, is a public place, and is at least quasi governmental as well. They are restricted by the constitution, whereas the mall management is not.

86 posted on 01/11/2006 1:02:26 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: verity
Actually, I did that fourteen years ago, during the first Bush presidency.

We shot archery, .22's, and skeet.

Our school nickname was Redneck Middle, so we were probably the exception to the rule, but it was fun.

87 posted on 01/11/2006 1:02:47 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Does anyone have a lemon?)
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To: American_Centurion; DaveyB; commish
commish:
Get the law declared unconstitutional or removed -- until then that is the law and like it or not you have to play by the law.


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Whose law? The ones codified in the constitution? The one instituted by God? Or the ones in violation of both brought to yo by your big government tyrant?
53 DaveyB

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When our Government follows the Constitution to a T, then I will play by their law to a T. Until then, I might do things I don't want certain people to know about.
54 American_Centurion

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No Commish, we do not have to play by 'unconstitutional laws'. They are void when written.

As Judge Alito is trying to say right now, -- and as Justice Marshall said in the 1803 Marbury decision:

"-- Thus, the particular phraseology of the constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is void; and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument. --"
88 posted on 01/11/2006 1:03:43 PM PST by don asmussen
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To: El Gato

"Would it make you happier if they went to the parking lot of the local stop-and-rob and passed them there?"

Sure. That would be better.


89 posted on 01/11/2006 1:03:58 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: VeniVidiVici; Arthalion
There are states that would allow the posession of a rifle by kids of this age.

New York being one of them. Which is part of why I think an arrest, even if legally justified, was a moral overreaction. These kids were in the parking lot with a legal rifle that one of them owned.

90 posted on 01/11/2006 1:05:11 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Kids doing dumb things.


91 posted on 01/11/2006 1:06:24 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: MineralMan

1980s for me. Virginia Beach City Schools, NJROTC Program. Bolt action .22 rifles.


92 posted on 01/11/2006 1:07:11 PM PST by WayneS (Honor the 2nd Amendment; repeal the 16th.)
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To: MineralMan
Depends where you are. Most states have laws prohibiting firearms from schoolgrounds.

There's also a federal law. It was thrown out by the Supreme Court once, on the grounds that schools are not commerce and so the Congress has no power to pass such a law. However Congress, in it's infinite Wisdom, sprinkled a little more "Interstate Commerce" pixie dust on it, and passed it again. AFAIK, it's not been back to the Supreme Court for another test.

93 posted on 01/11/2006 1:07:47 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Alex Baldwin Sr. died while Alec was still calling himself Zander.

Mr. Baldwin was a good guy with good instincts. I have no idea what his own politics were but with the screw-ball kids running around I wonder if he raised them red or they are all in deep rebellion.

I know the four of them (but through business, not Massapequa) and Alec's ideas about Bush and Co. are mild compared to Daniel's or Billy's. And, don't believe the born-again hype about Stephen, I know it's bull.

94 posted on 01/11/2006 1:08:00 PM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: dmz

The mall is PRIVATE property. So, yes their policy can "trump" your constitutional rights. But that doesn't mean you have to patronize their stores.


95 posted on 01/11/2006 1:09:20 PM PST by WayneS (Honor the 2nd Amendment; repeal the 16th.)
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To: Arthalion

There you go standing in the way of fanaticism.


96 posted on 01/11/2006 1:09:52 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Kids doing dumb things."

correction: Adults doing dumb things.

97 posted on 01/11/2006 1:10:38 PM PST by spunkets
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To: MineralMan
Use your head, man. These kids are all at school, nice kids, geeks, and gang-banger alike. What do you want the school to do? Should they make a list of which kids can bring firearms to school and which cannot?

Apply that head, and it's common sense. The Geeks and other good kids are not the problem, the gang bangers are. Everyone in the school knows which is which. Use some discretion. Give the good kids a stern warning, if you must, and report the gang bangers, who are likely illegally in possession anyway, with the school property issue not being a factor.

98 posted on 01/11/2006 1:11:17 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: verity

Carter


99 posted on 01/11/2006 1:12:37 PM PST by WayneS (Honor the 2nd Amendment; repeal the 16th.)
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To: WayneS

and then Reagan.


100 posted on 01/11/2006 1:14:54 PM PST by WayneS (Honor the 2nd Amendment; repeal the 16th.)
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