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Teens charged after rifle exchange (more zero tolerance at school?)
Finger Lakes Times ^ | Wednesday, January 11, 2006 | By DENISE M. CHAMPAGNE

Posted on 01/11/2006 10:58:18 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

OVID NY— Two teenagers were charged Tuesday after allegedly having a rifle in the parking lot of South Seneca Central Junior/Senior High School at 7263 Main St.

District Superintendent Janie Nusser said a student came on campus with a rifle in her car to give it to the rifle’s owner who was another student. She said they made the transfer in the school parking lot in violation of board policy and state law.

“I think when students saw the rifle, they were concerned and reported it to adults and we immediately called law enforcement,” Nusser said.

“I think what heightened people’s concerns was the student that was the owner of the gun had been involved in an argument with another student just prior to the transfer. At this time in the investigation, we do not see a connection between the two incidents.”

Nusser said the incident happened at the end of the school day and reports of a lockdown are untrue.

“It’s an ongoing investigation, so for me to give you much information would be premature,” she said.

Nusser would not name the students, but Seneca County sheriff’s deputies charged Jeffrey R. Warne, 17, of 7904 Route 89, Interlaken, and Jessica L. Prindle-Ike, 16, of 8494 Mill St., Lodi, with fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon.

Deputies said the .22-caliber rifle was not pointed at anyone during the incident.

The teens were ticketed and are to appear Jan. 30 in Ovid Town Court.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; bradywatch; dims; guns; lawyers; money; rkba; schools
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To: commish
IF IT IS ILLEGAL (IE against the law - good law or bad) and you break that law, YOU ARE IN THE WRONG...

So like making a law that prohibits the bearing of arms...for instance?

61 posted on 01/11/2006 12:22:21 PM PST by DaveyB (Peace follows victory - never before)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

zero tolerance at school


----I have to agree on this. You cannot descriminate whether this kid is responsible enough to handle a gun or whether this kid is not. School parking lots are NO place for guns if that is the schools policy. I do not agree with a lot of the gun laws, but this one seems appropriate and I dont want a gun in the hands of a kid around my child.


62 posted on 01/11/2006 12:24:19 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: American_Centurion
When our Government follows the Constitution to a T, then I will play by their law to a T. Until then, I might do things I don't want certain people to know about

That is your choice, and you also the consequences you face if you are caught.

I am not a saint, I will freely admit I break the law every single day. I drive fast. I know I do. I have also recieved speeding tickets at various times in my life. I paid the fine and I paid the extra insurance -- those are the consequences of my actions.

And that is my whole point here - the law is there, whether it is right, fair, constitutional, etc etc etc. Until a court grows some balls and brings this country back to the constitution the laws are there and we have to follow them. If we break that law we pay the price.

I feel for these kids, they are probably good kids and didn't think anything of what they were doing. Unfortunately they got caught and now have to suffer the consequences.

64 posted on 01/11/2006 12:25:23 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Arthalion
Are you actually advocating that minors be given the same legal rights, responsibilities, and privledges as adults?

NO - just the rights! Oh and I want to keep government with in the confines of their constitutionally limited powers.

65 posted on 01/11/2006 12:25:33 PM PST by DaveyB (Peace follows victory - never before)
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To: freepatriot32

Perhaps, but I'd wager that it's saved far more than it's killed. As someone else pointed out in this thread, I really don't want a bunch of 15 year old Suerenos and Nortenos packing heat at school and having shootouts in the quad at lunchtime. How many fistfights would escalate into something far worse if the losing side had a gun on him? Kids are too emotional and simply aren't mature enough to carry firearms everywhere with them. Even if yours is, would you really want him going to school with the 16 year old gangbanger down the street with a chip on his shoulder and his eyes on your kids girlfriend?


67 posted on 01/11/2006 12:29:11 PM PST by Arthalion
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To: Arthalion
Are you actually advocating that minors be given the same legal rights, responsibilities, and privledges as adults?

There are states that would allow the posession of a rifle by kids of this age. In that case, minors would have the same legal rights, responsibilities and privileges as adults. Without advocating for it.

68 posted on 01/11/2006 12:32:23 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: Arthalion

I didn't advocate any of your knee-jerk scenarios. The parent has the ultimate say over what rights their children have.

Every living American has every single right enumerated to them in the constitution, to be left unchecked by the Federal Government as written in the constitution.

I will not excuse infringement for any reason. If you can't stop your 8 year old from doing what he isn't supposed to that's not my problem.

But in the real world, one day your 8 year old my have to use your Ruger to defend himself, and the second ammendment guarantees that he can.


69 posted on 01/11/2006 12:32:46 PM PST by American_Centurion (A liberal is a socialist who isn't quite willing to get blood on his hands yet. -KarlInOhio)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It is a little bit of hysteria, but on the other hand in today's environment it was stupidity on the part of the students. If they both have cars there have to be plenty of other places they could have arranged to make this exchange without running afoul of the authorities.


70 posted on 01/11/2006 12:33:56 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: dmz

A school is government property, and the government, unlike a private property owner, cannot under the 2nd Amendment infringe upon the right to bear arms.


71 posted on 01/11/2006 12:35:29 PM PST by thoughtomator (Illegal immigrants come to America for a better life - yours!)
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To: Arthalion
Perhaps, but I'd wager that it's saved far more than it's killed...

But think how many more lives tyranny will save? Like in N.Korea

72 posted on 01/11/2006 12:35:54 PM PST by DaveyB (Peace follows victory - never before)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I used to shoot .22 target rifle at a range IN the High School.

Those were the good old days. I took my shotgun to school when I was in HS for my Outdoor Education (PE) class. We reloaded shotgun shells (12 gauge) in class as one of the units in the curriculum. As a class we reloaded probably a couple of thousand rounds (I probably did a few hundred of them myself).

73 posted on 01/11/2006 12:36:11 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: DaveyB
NO - just the rights!

Can't do that. The 14th amendment assures the RIGHT to equal protection under the law. If you're going to extend constitutional RIGHTS to kids, they get that one too. Once they have that, they can get all of the responsibilities and privileges by simply arguing discrimination. If they have the same rights as adults, there's very little legal ground on which their other actions can be regulated. Legally, if the rights of the Constitution are extended to minors, the 14th Amendment requires that a 9 year old be treated the same as a 29 year old or a 90 year old.

Yes, that would be an incredibly stupid idea, but that's why we DON'T extend the rights in the constitution to children (except for those specifically mentioned, like birthright citizenship). As I said, it's a can of worms.
74 posted on 01/11/2006 12:37:47 PM PST by Arthalion
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
But it just seems to me that a proper course would have been to question the kids, find out what was going on and then, if there's nothing more to the story, give them a good tongue lashing and maybe a couple days detention or suspension

I agree. But everyone, even high school kids, knows that it's against the law to take a gun onto school property. When I was in school no one thought twice about having a rifle in their gun rack (of course, that's before gun racks were illegal, too). But the kids were foolish to take a rifle out of the car while on school property.

75 posted on 01/11/2006 12:38:00 PM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: DaveyB

OK. Scratch out mall and replace with Post Office. Or White House. Or Congress.

I think we tacitly accept a lot of restrictions on where weapons are carried without even really thinking about it.


76 posted on 01/11/2006 12:41:36 PM PST by dmz
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To: thoughtomator

Like I suggested to the other guy, take your AR-15, load it, hold it like you mean it, and try to go visit the any federal government installation.

Let me know how that works out for you.


77 posted on 01/11/2006 12:44:51 PM PST by dmz
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To: Arthalion
The 14th amendment assures the RIGHT to equal protection under the law...nce they have that, they can get all of the responsibilities and privileges by simply arguing discrimination

Balderdash protection does not equal privilege. It does mean that ALL people are protected from government usurping liberty from the people(all people).

78 posted on 01/11/2006 12:44:54 PM PST by DaveyB (Peace follows victory - never before)
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To: MineralMan

The laws don't apply to only minors.


79 posted on 01/11/2006 12:47:03 PM PST by Durus ("Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." JFK)
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To: dmz

As I'm sure you well know, the Constitution is no threat to our form of government.


80 posted on 01/11/2006 12:47:43 PM PST by thoughtomator (Illegal immigrants come to America for a better life - yours!)
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