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Rose Bowl Live Thread
1/4/05 | me

Posted on 01/03/2006 8:36:04 PM PST by BurbankKarl

Edited on 01/04/2006 2:22:49 PM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

On January 4, 2006 at 5:00 p.m. (PST) the Rose Bowl Game will host the BCS National Championship, between USC and Texas once again showcasing the best of collegiate football in "The Granddaddy of Them All."® The Rose Bowl will be broadcast exclusively on ABC and on ESPN radio.

Link to ESPN Scoreboard


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bcs; bowlgames; collegefootball; football; hookemhorns; longhorns; nationalchampionship; ncaa; pasadena; rosebowl; sports; texas; texasgetsowned; texaswillkillusc; trojans; usc; uscgetsowned; uscwasp0wned
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To: soccermom
I'm just saying USC handed this one to them on a silver platter.

Well I could turn around and say that Texas tried to hand it to USC on a silver platter. Forget how on the first drive Texas stopped USC cold, only to give it back to them on a sloppy fumble and then 15 more yards on a stupid (on the UT player's part) late hit? Several other sloppiness penalties, fumbles, poor coaching choices, a missed extra point, and a missed field goal.

3,421 posted on 01/05/2006 6:56:14 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: ghostrider
If there been more time, the pendulum may have swung back to USC - but that is another "if." Agreed and therein lies another "if" in that the refs failed to stop the clock in the 4th quarter when the Longhorns went out of bounds. There are plenty of "ifs", but it is clear to me that USC handed them the game. Young was at his best and even with all SC's screw-ups, they were still in there. If you look at the stats, they were even a little ahead. Young was at his best. SC wasn't.
3,422 posted on 01/05/2006 6:59:29 AM PST by soccermom
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

That's pretty funny, and gets even better the further down the list one gets.


3,423 posted on 01/05/2006 7:01:18 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Halls


Where to find Texas Championship T-shirts ...

UT Coop ... http://www.universitycoop.com/


3,424 posted on 01/05/2006 7:02:35 AM PST by Nobel_1 (energy security 4 economic security)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
And if some USC fans want to still play "The refs cost us the game" card after all

What many people haven't grasped is that on review the pitch probably would not have been overturned. Here is why:

THis play falls under the same general set of requirements as the "tuck rule", "pass/fumble", etc etc

Just as in the case of a passer being sacked -- was his arm going forward at the time he was sacked or fumbled. If so it is ruled a pass as it is considered the same as "the ball coming out" on a fumble review -- even if the ball is still in the passer's hand. If the arm is going forward the pass is considered tohave been started (Even if the ball is still in the players hand).

Now, THE SAME STANDARD applies to pitch plays. If the Pitchman (young) has started the pitching motion then the ball is considered to "Be coming out". Ergo , On the replay, when Young's knee hits the ground his hand had already mover halfway across his body -- he had begun the pitch movement -- as a result the ruling would be that the Pitch had already started (just as in the case of a pass where the arm is going forward, or a fumble where the ball is ruled to be coming out.) Is it a fair rule, probably not, as the ball is technically still in the possession of the pitchman, but it is considered to be "In motion" and therefore the play would not have been overturned.

3,425 posted on 01/05/2006 7:02:36 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: soccermom
Young was at his best. SC wasn't.

Neither was the Texas defense, it was their worst performance of the year. Yet they still won.

3,426 posted on 01/05/2006 7:02:55 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat; All

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Some videos about the game celebration,etc.

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more


3,427 posted on 01/05/2006 7:03:24 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33

Yee haw!


3,428 posted on 01/05/2006 7:03:48 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
My hubby, a UT graduate, is ECSTATIC!! My son, who is presently attending Texas Tech gave him a UT rose bowl tee-shirt he's wearing this morn to work. He is all giddy and has a light spring in his walk this morn.. CONGRATS to the HORNS...HOOK'EM Horns!!! YEEHAWWWWW!
3,429 posted on 01/05/2006 7:04:11 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: soccermom
Actually, it was apparently Big 10 refs that failed to review the Phantom TD, but who's counting. Anyway, my beef was with Carroll for failing to call for the review -- not the refs.

1. The refs can't call for review --ONLY the review booth can call for a review. And the EQUIPMENT was not working in the review booth, that is why they could not call for the review.

2. Coaches CAN NOT CALL FOR A REVIEW, that is pro ball, in College ONLY THE REVIEW booth can call for a review.

Now, the mistake Pete Carroll did make was in NOT CALLING A TIME OUT. The TO would have given the review booth time to look at the call if the Equipment could have been made to work.

BUT, that is all a moot point as my earlier post points out, the play would not have been overturned.

3,430 posted on 01/05/2006 7:05:40 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

But Texas' defense made the plays when they absolutely needed to. And their secondary did a great job of not giving up the big play, and at least slowing down SC's offense to where they didn't get enough possessions to score into the 40s.

Notre Dame did a good job too, but then again that game was in South Bend.


3,431 posted on 01/05/2006 7:07:11 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dakine
"V. Young does a gag job...can't pass with the big boys..."

He no only passed with them, he ran over them with about 200 yards, three rushing TDs and a sneak on the two-point conversion.

It was so great to see that pro USC announcing team and guests eat crow.

The announcers at one point were saying that it looked like a sure thing with about 5 minutes left in the game.

They were SOOOOOOOOO wrong!
3,432 posted on 01/05/2006 7:07:23 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: RoseofTexas

As a Gator fan who won it nine years ago (thanks to Texas beating Nebraska in the Big 12 Championship game), there's nothing like that feeling. College World Series and Football championship in one year, that's pretty darn good.


3,433 posted on 01/05/2006 7:09:46 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: RoseofTexas
I am not from Texas, but was pulling for the horns big-time.

That was one of the best games I've ever watched in my life.

I don't know the temperature on the field during game time, but I am sure it was pretty warm for the players.

Even though there were a lot of yards for both teams, it was obvious that the two defenses played their hearts out.
3,434 posted on 01/05/2006 7:10:38 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Neither was the Texas defense, it was their worst performance of the year. Yet they still won. Both defenses did poorly which is why, again, the difference was Vince. He, with the help of a pass when he was down :-), won the game for Texas. Here's agreat article outlining how SC gave this game away:
3,435 posted on 01/05/2006 7:10:47 AM PST by soccermom
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To: Diddle E. Squat

How many other teams could have stopped USC on that final fourth and one? I would dare say not too many.


3,436 posted on 01/05/2006 7:12:33 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Diddle E. Squat

"Neither was the Texas defense, it was their worst performance of the year. Yet they still won."

I think they were cramping from the heat, but I am not sure.

Both defenses played very hard, but I think Texas was worn out earlier due to having fumbled the first kick off from USC in the first quarter.


3,437 posted on 01/05/2006 7:13:50 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: soccermom

I think this game exposed one basic flaw in USC this year. The combination of their offensive dominance and defensive mediocrity this year has been such that some of their games have become toss-ups simply because of the way they play. Any opposing team that was within a touchdown with a few minutes left in the game had a 50-50 chance of winning the game, because I always had the sense in these close games (vs. Notre Dame and Texas in particular) that the last team with the ball and some time on the clock was going to win the game. And 50-50 it was, as USC won against Notre Dame and lost against Texas in very similar fashion.


3,438 posted on 01/05/2006 7:14:57 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Said the night wind to the little lamb . . . "Do you see what I see?")
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To: Preachin'
I do have to say that ALL the players from both teams with the exception of the USC quarterback were very pleasant after the game. SUCH sportsmanship! Made me so proud to be living in the USA! The USC QB(whatever his name is) was bitter with his assumption that they were the better team....HUH? Don't the better team WIN the game at the last?? SOUR GRAPES!
3,439 posted on 01/05/2006 7:17:07 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I agree with you Diddle...it seems the USC fans cannot accept that they were just beaten...Texas averaged 8.3 yard per rush...Young was 75% in passing. Mistakes were made by BOTH teams...the overall stats are close, as is the score, with the passing yardage advantage going to USC.

Bottom line, USC wasn't playing in the PAC-10 for this game. Texas just beat them.


3,440 posted on 01/05/2006 7:17:31 AM PST by Moby Grape
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