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Christianity and Islam in History
Catholic Educators ^
| December 2005
| MSGR. WALTER BRANDMULLER
Posted on 01/02/2006 2:46:25 PM PST by NYer
On the same day when the Vatican made public Benedict XVI’s message for the World Day of Peace next January 1, cardinal secretary of state Angelo Sodano sponsored a meeting at the Pontifical Lateran University the grand chancellor of which is the pope’s vicar, cardinal Camillo Ruini. The meeting focused on a topic crucial for the Church’s geopolitics: “Christianity and Islam, Yesterday and Today.”
In his message, Benedict XVI pointed to “nihilism” and “religious fanaticism” as the two deep sources of Islamist terrorism.
But the analysis at the December 13 meeting at the Lateran concentrated above all on the history of the relationship between Christianity and Islam. The occasion for the meeting was the fifth centenary of the birth of saint Pius V, the pope of the battle of Lepanto in 1571, at which a league of Europe’s Christian states inflicted a decisive defeat upon the Turkish fleet.
The topic was explored by an authoritative specialist in Church history, monsignor Walter Brandmüller, president of the Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences.
Delivered in the presence of cardinal Sodano, his address represented the Holy See’s current point of view on the question: a point of view that is certainly less pliant than the one that prevailed during the pontificate of John Paul II. - Sandro Magister
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Christianity and Islam in History
by Walter Brandmüller
I will address the topic of Christianity and Islam by limiting myself to a brief presentation of historical facts, without entering into the specifics of religious and theological dialogue. This seems useful to me, because the celebration of the fifth centenary of the birth of Pius V was a bit muted, especially in academic circles. The victor at Lepanto in 1571, this pope who had the courage and the energy to construct an alliance of almost all the Christian kingdoms against the Ottoman empire which was advancing to threaten Europe and had already established dominion over the Balkans today, precisely on account of the unhappy restoration of hostility between the two worlds one formerly Christian, and to a certain extent still Christian, and the Muslim world seems to many to be an obstructing presence best left in the shadows.
The so-called “secularism” that would silence all the monotheistic religions through accusations of fundamentalism, or that exalts dialogue by negating their differences, intends to blot out the age-old conflict that has pitted the two religious communities against one another. Above all, it intends to neutralize the Roman pontiff, who has shown himself capable of blocking the Islamic advance and saving Christian civilization.
Although the two monotheistic religions in question share, among other things and to different degrees, the Jewish tradition a specialist like Samir Khalil Samir emphasizes how before Mohammed the Arab Jews and Christians called their God by the name of Allah there are many differences between Christianity and Islam, and the differences are fundamental.
Since their very beginnings, there have been differences in how Christians and Muslims think of conversion and the use of violence.
Those who maintain that understanding jihad as a holy war constitutes a sort of deviation from the true Islamic tradition are therefore not telling the truth, and history sadly demonstrates that violence has characterized Islam since its origin, and that Mohammed himself systematically organized and led the raids against the tribes that did not want to convert and accept his dominion, thus subjecting the Arab tribes one by one.
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For the Christians, conversion was something that must be voluntary and individual, obtained primarily through preaching and example, and this is how Christianity did in fact spread during its first centuries. Obviously, we must immediately note that this conception of early Christianity underwent changes in later eras, connected with the diffusion of a spirit of religious intolerance in Western culture. John Paul II himself acknowledged that in this regard the Church’s children “must return with a spirit of repentance [for] the acquiescence given, especially in certain centuries, to intolerance and even the use of violence in the service of truth.” (Tertio Millennio Adveniente, 35).
But on the part of the Muslims, from the earliest times, even while Mohammed was still alive, conversion was imposed through the use of force. The expansion and extension of Islam’s sphere of influence came through war with the tribes that did not accept conversion peacefully, and this went hand in hand with submission to Islamic political authority. Islamism, unlike Christianity, expressed a comprehensive religious, cultural, social, and political strategy. While Christianity spread during its first three centuries in spite of persecution and martyrdom, and in many ways in opposition to Roman domination, introducing a clear separation between the spiritual and political spheres, Islam was imposed through the power of political domination.
It therefore comes as no surprise that the use of force occupies a central place in Islamic tradition, as witnessed by the frequent use of the word “jihad” in many texts. Although some scholars, especially Western ones, maintain that jihad does not necessarily mean war, but instead a spiritual struggle and interior effort, Samir Khalil Samir again clarifies that the use of this term in Islamic tradition including its usage today is essentially uniform, indicating warfare in the name of God to defend Islam, which is an obligation for all adult Muslim males. Those who maintain that understanding jihad as a holy war constitutes a sort of deviation from the true Islamic tradition are therefore not telling the truth, and history sadly demonstrates that violence has characterized Islam since its origin, and that Mohammed himself systematically organized and led the raids against the tribes that did not want to convert and accept his dominion, thus subjecting the Arab tribes one by one. Naturally, it must also be said that at the time of Mohammed warfare was part of the Bedouin culture, and no one saw anything objectionable about it.
But the biggest difference between Christianity and Islam concerns the crucial issue of understanding the human person. This is shown by the fact that many Islamic countries have not accepted the declaration of human rights promulgated by the United Nations in 1948, or have done so with the reservation of excluding the norms that conflict with Qur’anic law which means practically all of them.
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The interpretation that Muslims today try to make of the crusades an interpretation that finds many followers among Western historians also fails to correspond to historical reality.
According to this representation, Western Christians were invaders in a peaceful region that was respectful of the different religions the Holy Land, which back then was part of Syria using religious motives to disguise imperialist ambitions and economic interests.
But the idea of the crusades emerged, above all, as a reaction to the measures that the Fatimid caliph Hakim bi-Amr Allah took against the Christians of Egypt and Syria. In 1008, al-Hakim outlawed the celebrations of Palm Sunday, and the following year he ordered that Christians be punished and all their property confiscated. In that same year of 1009, he sacked and demolished the church dedicated to Mary in Cairo, and did not prevent the desecration of the Christian sepulchers surrounding it, or the sacking of the city’s other churches. That same year saw what was certainly the most severe episode: the destruction of the Constantinian basilica of the Resurrection in Jerusalem, known as the Holy Sepulcher. The historical records of the time say that he had ordered “to obliterate any symbol of Christian faith, and provide for the removal of every reliquary and object of veneration.” The basilica was then razed, and Ibn Abi Zahir did all he could to demolish the sepulcher of Christ and any trace of it.
Today in many intellectual circles there is a lot of talk about the religious tolerance shown over many centuries by the Islamic authorities, because while in terms of the pagan populations the saying “embrace Islam and your life will be spared” held true, and the pagans who did not convert were killed the “people of the book,” the Jews and Christians, were able to continue practicing their religion.
In reality, the situation was much less idyllic: the Christians and Jews could survive only if they accepted Muslim political dominion and a situation of humiliation, which was aggravated by the obligation to pay increasingly burdensome taxes. So it’s no wonder that most of the Christians, even though they were not constrained by force, converted to Islam on account of the constant economic and social pressure. This led to the total disappearance of a form of Christianity that had flourished for more than half a millennium, as in the part of Africa ruled by the Roman empire, the land of Tertullian, saint Cyprian, Tyconius, and above all saint Augustine.
But the biggest difference between Christianity and Islam concerns the crucial issue of understanding the human person.
This is shown by the fact that many Islamic countries have not accepted the declaration of human rights promulgated by the United Nations in 1948, or have done so with the reservation of excluding the norms that conflict with Qur’anic law which means practically all of them. From an historical point of view, therefore, it must be recognized that the declaration of the rights of man is a cultural fruit of the Christian world, even though these are “universal” norms, in that they are valid for all. In Islamic tradition, in fact, the concept of the equality of all human beings does not exist, nor does, in consequence, the concept of the dignity of every human life. Sharia is founded upon a threefold inequality: between man and woman, between Muslim and non-Muslim, and between freeman and slave. In essence, the male human being is considered a full titleholder of rights and duties only through his belonging to the Islamic community: those who convert to another religion or become atheists are considered traitors, subject to the death penalty, or at least to the loss of all their rights.
In Islamic tradition, in fact, the concept of the equality of all human beings does not exist, nor does, in consequence, the concept of the dignity of every human life. Sharia is founded upon a threefold inequality: between man and woman, between Muslim and non-Muslim, and between freeman and slave.
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The most irrevocable of these inequalities is that between man and woman, because the others can be overcome the slave can be freed, the non-Muslim can convert to Islam while woman’s inferiority is irremediable, in that it was established by God himself. In Islamic tradition, the husband enjoys an almost absolute authority over his wife: while polygamy is permitted for men, a woman may not have more than one husband, may not marry a man of another faith, can be repudiated by her husband, has no rights to the children in case of divorce, is penalized in the division of the inheritance, and from a legal standpoint her testimony is worth half as much as a man’s.
So if Islam implied, and still implies, not merely religious membership, but an entire way of life, sanctioned even at the political level a way of life that naturally involves and prescribes how to act with other peoples, how to behave in questions of war and peace, how to conduct relations with foreigners it is very easy to understand how the victory of Lepanto guaranteed for the West the possibility of developing its culture of respect for the human person, for whom equal dignity regardless of his condition came to be guaranteed.
If this characterization of Islam is destined to remain unchanged in the future, as it has been until now, the only possible outcome is a difficult coexistence with those who do not belong to the Muslim community: in an Islamic country, in fact, the non-Muslim must submit to the Islamic system, if he does not wish to live in a situation of substantial intolerance.
Likewise, on account of this all-embracing conception of religion and political authority, the Muslim will have great difficulty in adapting to the civil laws in non-Islamic countries, seeing them as something foreign to his upbringing and to the dictates of his religion. Perhaps one should ask oneself if the well-attested difficulties persons coming from the Islamic world have with integrating into the social and cultural life of the West are not explained in part by this problematic situation.
We must also recognize the natural right of every society to defend its own cultural, religious, and political identity. It seems to me that this is precisely what Pius V did.
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To: TheCrusader
But is anybody listening to the Pope anymore? (Since April 24) More than 2.8 million people have already attended encounters and Masses with Benedict XVI in the Eternal City.
The average number of pilgrims who have participated in audiences, liturgical celebrations and the Angelus is greater than that recorded for these types of meetings with Pope John Paul II at this point in the Polish Pontiff's pontificate.
Benedict XVI Drawing Big Crowds
And then, of course, there was this reaction from the seminarians studying in Rome, when Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was announced as the new pontiff.
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Some reporters in the msm have declared Benedict XVI to be an 'interim' pope. JPII outlived many of those who predicted his death beginning 20 years ago. Benedict XVI will do the same.
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posted on
01/02/2006 7:01:13 PM PST
by
NYer
(Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
To: Popman
I knew you would...Happy New Year!
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posted on
01/02/2006 7:24:31 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: Coleus; nutmeg; Clemenza; rmlew; firebrand; RaceBannon; Yehuda; PARodrig
Interesting read ping
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posted on
01/02/2006 9:08:42 PM PST
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: NYer
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posted on
01/02/2006 9:13:24 PM PST
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: ImaGraftedBranch
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posted on
01/02/2006 9:17:10 PM PST
by
Ultra Sonic 007
(The opposite of Progress is Congress)
To: porkchops 4 mahound
See how the entire world is arrayed against Israel, yet they are powerless against the One True GOD's covenant. Not the entire world. Not yet at least.
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posted on
01/02/2006 10:55:28 PM PST
by
AndyTheBear
(Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
To: Dark Skies
How to kill it! That's what we need to know. Pretty tough work. It has millions of true believers, and it uses deadly force against opposing views whenever it can get away with it.
I suggest loudly exposing and forcefully opposing its violent oppression of other faiths. Combined with increasing the Christian missionaries to Islamic areas (there are now only about three per million Muslims, it is a very hazardous undertaking).
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posted on
01/02/2006 11:06:48 PM PST
by
AndyTheBear
(Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
To: Pyro7480
Samir Khalil Samir emphasizes how before Mohammed the Arab Jews and Christians called their God by the name of Allah This is still true amongst Christians in the Middle East. The word "Allah" means God in Arabic.
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01/03/2006 6:36:28 AM PST
by
NYer
(Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
To: blu
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01/03/2006 6:36:48 AM PST
by
NYer
(Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
To: familyop
This article is about "Christianity and Islam in History" Why is it so vitally important to bring the long suffering jews into every possible article posted here?
Whine,whine,whine
Next, we'll be talking about the NFL and you'll somehow plug the holocaust into the discourse. No Tel Aviv franchise? After all we went through in 1492, we should have an NFL franchise.
Whine, whine, whine!
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posted on
01/03/2006 8:16:01 AM PST
by
STD
(Grab Your Ankles, I'm From the Gub'ment)
To: STD
The reason it must be brought up is because the Church of Rome has very little moral authority to condemn Islam of conversion by force, and oppression of other faiths.
To: weegee
And what Chirac seems to misunderstand is that France WOULD be Muslim if not for Charles Martel. It is only the recent immigration of Muslims that has caused French culture to be influenced by Islam "as much as Christianity," but for well over 1100 years, it was Christian ALONE...
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posted on
01/03/2006 11:24:42 AM PST
by
jcb8199
To: Fred Nerks
All I can say is Praise the Lord, and thank Him for His grace in Blessing us with Cardinal Ratzinger/Benedictus XVI to follow Cardinal Wotylja/Johannus Paulus Magnus.
After this, the Deluge?
A.A.C.
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01/03/2006 11:31:58 AM PST
by
AmericanArchConservative
(Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
To: porkchops 4 mahound
I would amend the latter part pf the phtase to "blast them to perdition".
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01/03/2006 12:57:54 PM PST
by
sheik yerbouty
( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
To: Fred Nerks
Thanks for the ping.
This article is yet more proof that Islam is an evil cancer that seeks to destroy the world.
To: STD; Fred Nerks; Dark Skies; ariamne; USF; Alouette; Hill of Tara; Former Dodger; ...
WTH?
You CANNOT be serious?!
For starters, how about because it is PRIMARILY the Torah, which "m'hammad, the wicked and perverse" twisted and revised, and it was mainly the Jews he (and those who have followed him) sought to convert, kill and/or destroy, precisely because they knew their own religion, history and the character of their own G-D well enough to put the lie to his utter and unforgivable blasphemies
How about a follow-up?
Further it is because the Christian world (whether we have acknowledged it consistently or not) has always stood upon the foundation of Judaism, dependent upon their forefathers because they are OURS also...their history is part of ours - right up to and including the Jewish carpenter whom m'hammadans have always insisted was: ONLY a prophet (lesser than m'hammad), NOT the Son of G-D, NEVER CRUCIFIED, NEVER RESURRECTED...
And they have sought the same end for Christians they do for Jews. Despite their public face of calling us "people of the book" we are blasphemers and heretics in THEIR book, both on equal footing en route to the chopping block.
Your sarcastic regard for the suffering the Jews have always endured from m'hammadans - and still endure today from the pali-slime moslem bombers - is not only unattractive, it is really, IMHO, patently unwelcome.
I say: Christians for Jews and Jews for Christians. USA, Australia, and the UK for Israel, and Israel for all of us!
A.A.C.
"The Final Crusade has commenced - Rise! Christian Warrior and stoutly defend the Jew; Rise! Jewish Warrior and stoutly defend the Christian!"
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01/03/2006 4:51:05 PM PST
by
AmericanArchConservative
(Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
To: AmericanArchConservative
"The Final Crusade has commenced - Rise! Christian Warrior and stoutly defend the Jew; Rise! Jewish Warrior and stoutly defend the Christian!"Amen!
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01/03/2006 5:45:05 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: NYer
The word "Allah" means God in Arabic.Hi and Happy New Year, NYer.
The spiritual force behind islam is not the Allah of any Christian. The allah of islam is, or reports directly to, the Prince of Darkness...hence his directive to kill Christians and Jews.
IMHO, of course.
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posted on
01/03/2006 5:48:47 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: Dark Skies
"The spiritual force behind islam is not the Allah of any Christian. "
Yes, I absolutely love it when all of the Muslim lovers claim that "Islam is the religion of peace" and "God is allah in arabic."
allah (not capitalized, all take note!) might be the arab word for God, but Christians and muslims sure as heck dont worship the same God.
The muslim's precious allah offers the opportunity to rape 72 virgins. The muslims precious allah tells the muslims to kill all the infidels.
As you said, Islam is the religion of darkness.
Anyone who thinks allah is the God of Christianity or Judaism is either completely uninformed as to what they are talking about or they are lying.
Islam delenda est!
To: Hill of Tara; AmericanArchConservative; USF; All
Good job, Hill of Tara. Happy New Year...and keep bringing that sharp wit to FR. You're a good addition to our little army.
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01/03/2006 6:18:48 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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