[STD]

This article is about "Christianity and Islam in History" Why is it so vitally important to bring the long suffering jews into every possible article posted here?

Whine,whine,whine

Next, we'll be talking about the NFL and you'll somehow plug the holocaust into the discourse. No Tel Aviv franchise? After all we went through in 1492, we should have an NFL franchise.

Whine, whine, whine!

[reflecting]

The reason it must be brought up is because the Church of Rome has very little moral authority to condemn Islam of conversion by force, and oppression of other faiths.

[AmericanArchConservative]

WTH?

You CANNOT be serious?!

For starters, how about because it is PRIMARILY the Torah, which "m'hammad, the wicked and perverse" twisted and revised, and it was mainly the Jews he (and those who have followed him) sought to convert, kill and/or destroy, precisely because they knew their own religion, history and the character of their own G-D well enough to put the lie to his utter and unforgivable blasphemies

How about a follow-up?

Further it is because the Christian world (whether we have acknowledged it consistently or not) has always stood upon the foundation of Judaism, dependent upon their forefathers because they are OURS also...their history is part of ours - right up to and including the Jewish carpenter whom m'hammadans have always insisted was: ONLY a prophet (lesser than m'hammad), NOT the Son of G-D, NEVER CRUCIFIED, NEVER RESURRECTED...

And they have sought the same end for Christians they do for Jews. Despite their public face of calling us "people of the book" we are blasphemers and heretics in THEIR book, both on equal footing en route to the chopping block.

Your sarcastic regard for the suffering the Jews have always endured from m'hammadans - and still endure today from the pali-slime moslem bombers - is not only unattractive, it is really, IMHO, patently unwelcome.

I say: Christians for Jews and Jews for Christians. USA, Australia, and the UK for Israel, and Israel for all of us!

A.A.C.

"The Final Crusade has commenced - Rise! Christian Warrior and stoutly defend the Jew; Rise! Jewish Warrior and stoutly defend the Christian!"

[familyop]

STD wrote:
"This article is about "Christianity and Islam in History" Why is it so vitally important to bring the long suffering jews into every possible article posted here?"

I commented on a glaring omission in the article posted above this thread. What Pius V did was not a good example of any "natural right of every society to defend its own cultural, religious, and political identity." It wasn't even defense. He expelled the Jews from every papal domain except for Rome and Ancona. Brandmuller should find a better example.

STD wrote:
"Whine,whine,whine"

Yes, some people whine when the truth is exposed with evidence (Pius V's Hebraeorum Gens), and they would like to forget the past in order to repeat it.

If you would like to see another crusade, avoid any omission, propaganda or censorship that might lead to any stupid attempt to kill or expel the people of Israel in the process again.

Don't make the mistake of assuming that I'm Jewish. I'm not--not yet, anyway. And don't make the mistake of calling me a "neo-con." There's nothing "neo-" about us.