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World Terrorism : Weapons of Disruption Onging...
http://www.fredcowie.com/presentations/index.htm ^ | Jan.1, 2006 | Frederick J. Cowie, Ph.D.

Posted on 01/01/2006 6:41:58 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT

Weapons of Disruption

C 2006 Frederick J. Cowie, Ph.D.

Whereas we have no masses, it certainly would be seriously challenging to deliver a "weapon of mass destruction" in the vast majority of geographical areas in the American West, as well as in many areas in the East and South. For instance, Montana is approximately the size of Germany, yet the population hovers only around a million (we have one representative in the House). There is no "metropolitan" area anywhere around, though Spokane is about three hundred miles away. Wyoming has more sheep than people. Utah has Salt Lake City and a few nearby populous areas. Nevada has two populated regional areas, Las Vegas and Reno. North and South Dakota have, well, a few folks here and there. Idaho folks are few and far between. I swear you can drive from San Antonio to El Paso without seeing a city policeman, because I've done it several times. Then there are Arizona, New Mexico, eastern California, inter alia. The point is we have a few population points, while the rest of the states are empty excepted for isolated small communities.Thus, out West we probably need to talk more about "weapons of disruption." (Some folks say "weapons of mass disruption," but we have no masses!)

You must ask yourself: What would I do if I were a terrorist (or a terrorism preparedness instructor) looking into the ramifications of launching a rural terrorism attack? Personally, I would concentrate on considering the consequences of disruption rather than mass destruction. Here are a few scenarios you might want consider when your local rural emergency management/response group gathers to discuss terrorism exercises.

1) Wildland Fire Incidents: Incendiary (mostly wildland) warfare has been used by military strategists for at least 2500 years, over a thousand years before the use of gunpowder. The western U.S. is disrupted, seriously disrupted, every year by wildland fires. Quite a few are started by humans, accidentally and purposefully. Starting dozens of major fires in a dozen western states could be a brilliant line of attack if militants wished to disrupt America. Thousands of security personnel could do nothing and the perpetrator/s would probably never be implicated, much less captured. Are you prepared?

2) Railroad Chemical Incidents: Many railroad main lines go through tunnels. A few strategically placed armor-piercing shells in a series of chlorine cars, along with appropriately staged derailments leaving the leaking cars in the tunnels, could shut down many main line routes in the West. Spin-off scenarios are numerous. Ready?

3) Flammable Liquid Incidents: Bridges are not easily brought down from below and approaches to bridge support structures are often highly visible and randomly monitored. However, on CNN we all have seen many tanker truck accidents involving burning hydrocarbons which have made bridge structures unusable. How hard would it be to have a few terrorists steal trucks and drive them (as opposed to hijacking planes and flying them) to strategic bridges over wide rivers or narrow gorges, ignite the gasoline (or diesel or crude), block the approaches with other incendiary or chemical releases, and make the structures extremely dangerous and impassible to highway traffic? Gotcha!

There are many variations of these themes. You probably have or can make up many more plausible, novel, and easily implemented rural-specific attack scenarios. Design exercises around them. If you want to stop terrorist events you must think like a terrorist and quit fighting last year's war!

Peace, thanks, Fred

Please check out my website at fredcowie.com

To find recent presentations, Google (with quotation marks) "Fred Cowie"

Frederick J. (Fred) Cowie, Ph.D. E-mail: fredcowie@aol.com Phone: (24 hr cell) 406-431-3531 Website: fredcowie.com


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To: nw_arizona_granny

>>>Vel the 5 guys in the hospital, bombs and the Queen.

Thanks, Granny.
This one has piqued my curiosity.


4,781 posted on 03/31/2006 7:04:55 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: All; Calpernia; StillProud2BeFree; little jeremiah; Velveeta

[I have thought for several weeks that the surge of killings in the groups of 20 or 40 tortured bodies in Iraq, might be the killing of the gays in the country]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1606961/posts


Death for 'Apostates' and 'Sodomists'
Assyrian News Agency ^ | 3-21-06 | Andrew G. Bostom

Posted on 03/31/2006 12:09:16 PM MST by jmc1969

Grand Ayatollah Ali Al-Sistani, the supreme religious authority for
Shi’ite Muslims in Iraq and an icon for Shi’a worldwide, has apparently
decreed that gays and lesbians should be put to death “in the worst
manner possible.” Confirmation of this claim is provided at Sistani’s
own official website, specifically this page, item 5, from a question and
answer section, which translates:

Q: What is the judgment on sodomy and lesbianism?

A: Forbidden. Those involved in the act should be punished. In fact,
sodomites should be killed in the worst manner possible.*

Al-Sistani has been lionized as a moderate healing force in Iraq,
worthy of consideration for a Nobel Peace Prize (such informal
“nominations” coming from across the political spectrum, i.e., both
the New York Times’ Tom Friedman). His frank “ruling” which
sanctions the brutal murder of homosexuals, in conjunction with the
good Ayatollah’s earlier pronouncements on the debasing
uncleanliness of non-Muslims (i.e., his adherence to the orthodox
Shi’ite doctrine of najis) might dampen his Nobel prospects—although
one can’t be too sure in our moribund contemporary world.

(Excerpt) Read more at aina.org ...


4,782 posted on 03/31/2006 11:21:56 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta

Jihad camp to be built in Iowa on U.S. government land (ACLU OK With It)
Militant Islam Monitor ^ | 23-Mar-06 | Joe Kaufman


Posted on 03/31/2006 2:28:42 PM EST by Jay777


North Liberty, Iowa. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has signed a lease for up to 25 years with a group that wants to build a Muslim youth camp at Lake Coralville.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1606972/posts


4,783 posted on 03/31/2006 11:42:08 AM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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To: All; Calpernia; Velveeta; StillProud2BeFree; struwwelpeter; Rushmore Rocks; Founding Father; ...

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Jihad camp to be built in Iowa on U.S. government
land (ACLU OK With It)
Militant Islam Monitor ^ | 23-Mar-06 | Joe Kaufman

Posted on 03/31/2006 12:28:42 PM MST by Jay777

North Liberty, Iowa. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has signed a
lease for up to 25 years with a group that wants to build a Muslim
youth camp at Lake Coralville.

The lease allows the Cedar Rapids-based Muslim Youth Camps of
America to build on 114 acres of federal land. Construction can start
once the group works out details with county and state regulators, the
corps said Wednesday.


continued......


4,784 posted on 03/31/2006 12:45:30 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Laughing, we are sure of 'like mind' the last couple days.

Yes, that camp article is worth posting twice.


4,785 posted on 03/31/2006 12:49:19 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: All; DAVEY CROCKETT

March 31, 2006 Anti-Terrorism News

(Iraq) 3 Die When Mortar Strikes Baghdad Street
http://interestalert.com/story/siteia.shtml?Story=st/sn/03310006aaa06753.ap&Sys=siteia&Fid=WORLDNEW&Type=News&Filter=World%20News
Earlier in the day, soldiers discovered the bullet-riddled bodies of
six men, aged between 25 and 30 and wearing handcuffs, in western Baghdad

(Australia) Trio questioned after anti-terrorism operation
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200603/s1606111.htm
Three men are being questioned after a counter-terrorism operation in
Melbourne.

(Australia) "Jihad Jack" Thomas jailed for five years
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,18665257%255E12377,00.html
Australian Muslim Convert Joseph "Jack" Thomas, known as "Jihad Jack",
has been sentenced to five years in prison for receiving funds from
al-Qaeda.

(Israel) Terrorists clash with PA security forces in Gaza
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1143498776074&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Palestinian Miltiant Killed in Airstrike
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PALESTINIANS_EXPLOSION?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=INTERNATIONAL
A top Palestinian PFLP militant was killed on Friday in Gaza City,
hospital officials said, and witnesses said he died in an Israeli airstrike
on his car.

Hamas defends suicide bombing in West Bank
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12088641/
The Islamist group Hamas defended on Friday a suicide bombing that
killed four Israelis as "resistance" against Israeli "crimes"

(Israel) Arab Bomber Dressed as Jewish Hitchhiker Murders Three
http://www.arutzsheva.com/news.php3?id=101204
West Bank - Terrorist from Fatah's Al-Aksa Brigade dressed as a Jewish
hitchhiker and blew himself up inside the car of those who picked him
up near Kedumim, in Samaria - murdering three Israelis.

Port security measures advance in Congress
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060330-111610-1769r.htm

(Ports) Cargo containers inspected at "staggeringly low" rate
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/2547056.html
Government efforts to thwart terrorists riddled with blind spots

(Moussaoui Trial) Al Qaeda thug jury gets ring of steel
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/404677p-342560c.html
Jurors deciding the fate of convicted Al Qaeda thug Zacarias Moussaoui
are under unprecedented security because of the potential threat from
his fellow extremists

Lebanon: Six Soldiers Not Linked to Al-Qaeda - Court Rules
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.282407154&par=0
Beirut military tribunal has acquitted six Lebanese soldiers and a
Syrian national of charges that they belonged to a group linked to the
al-Qaeda terrorist network

US, Australia warn of possible terrorists attack in Indonesia
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/theworld/2006/March/theworld_March995.xml&section=theworld&col=
The US embassy in Jakarta joined Australia on Friday in warning of a
possible attack against Westerners in Indonesia this Sunday.

(Bangladesh) Banks told to find militants' accounts
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=79333&version=1&template_id=44&parent_id=24
Bangladesh Bank (BB) has sent a list of 68 militants to all commercial
banks to locate any suspect accounts.

Canadian men accused of funding terror
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=b4dde067-d626-4832-842b-71641c2056ff
Justice Department charged 19 with allegedly selling smuggled
cigarettes and counterfeit Viagra and giving profits to Hezbollah

Congressmen Grill Swiss Bankers Over Ties to Bin Laden, Iran, Cuba
http://www.nysun.com/article/30062?access=853047
Congressmen accuse UBS of helping Iran's nuclear program, facilitating
Osama bin Laden, and refusing to respond to congressional inquiries -
see my March 28 post

Iraq: Radical Shiite Cleric Accuses US of Collaborating With Al-Qaeda
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.282202845&par=0

Intelligence lessons of 7/7 (UK)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4861528.stm
Committee of MPs investigating intelligence failure to stop July 2005
London bombings blames it on lack of resources, not errors of judgement

UK cell followed al Qaeda leader orders: witness
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-03-28T173617Z_01_L28355964_RTRUKOC_0_UK-SECURITY-BRITAIN-TRIAL.xml
Al Qaeda's number three ordered British terrorism cell not to pray in
public and to pose as Western tourists when they travelled to training
camp in Pakistan

Negotiated peace sought to end revolt in SW Pakistan
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SP105905.htm
Provincial assembly in Baluchistan sets up panel of peacebrokers to
negotiate with tribal chiefs leading revolt

(UK Trial) Witness says he plotted to kill Musharraf
http://www.dawn.com/2006/03/31/top8.htm
US informant Mohammed Babar told a British court on Thursday he was
involved in two plots to assassinate President Pervez Musharraf and had
bought guns, ammunition and grenades to carry out the killing

(Kashmir) Hizb denies links with Al-Qaida, Taliban
http://www.kashar.net/kashmir/complete.asp?id=2715
Hizbul Mujahideen spokesman: “We’ve nothing to do with Al-Qaida or
Taliban and neither we are present in Waziristan."

Taliban Continue Attacks in Afghanistan
http://www.tribune-democrat.com/editorials/feeds/apcontent/apstories/apstorysection/D8GLTJ000.xml.txt/resources_apstoryview
Suspected Taliban militants killed district chief and three staff in
ambush in eastern Afghanistan

Over 250 terror attacks pre-empted in SCO countries in 2005
http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/0/28.html?id_issue=11488460
Over 250 terror attacks were pre-empted in countries of Shanghai
Cooperation Organization (SCO) in 2005

Army arrests three in Ramallah and four in Gaza
http://www.imemc.org/content/view/17702/1/
Israeli army arrests Al-Aqsa Martyr brigade and Islamic Jihad
operatives

Cancer in its midst (column)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20060329-084827-8739r.htm
Chairman of American Islamic Forum for Democracy on perversion of Islam
and CAIR's role in it

Iran tests missile able to avoid radar
http://interestalert.com/story/siteia.shtml?Story=st/sn/0331000caaa06753.ap&Sys=siteia&Fid=WORLDNEW&Type=News&Filter=World%20News

Explosive Devices Found in Minnesota Home
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EXPLOSIVES_BUST?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=ENTERTAINMENT
More than 110 explosive devices and more than 20 pounds of highly
explosive materials in a home, in what authorities say was part of a large
bomb-making operation

City releases 911 calls from Sept. 11, editing out cries for help
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NY_ATTACKS_911_CALLS_BAOL-?SITE=NYNYD&SECTION=MIDEAST&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Commentary: Defeating Jihad
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21872


4,786 posted on 03/31/2006 3:33:23 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Ruth that is an amazing list of information!! I'm just catching up........but I love the campfire recipes and the sourdoguh starter. As long as I have been catering and cooking I have not done that. Maybe it's time.

I totally agree with the teflon pans, although I have some it's probably time to get rid of them. I love stainless steel and the ironstone like Le Creuset [very expensive]

These are my favorite muffins.

Moosewood Muffins

Yields 12 muffins


streusel topping (optional)
1/3 cup unbleached white flour
1 1/2 tablespoons cold butter, chopped into small pieces
1 1/2 tablespoons brown sugar, packed
1/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon
pinch of nutmeg
pinch of salt

wet ingredients
6 tablespoons butter, at room temperature
1/2 to 3/4 cup sugar
1 egg
1/2 cup plus 2 tablespoons milk
1/2 teaspoon pure vanilla extract
2 cups chopped fruit, and/or nuts, and/or chocolate chips*

dry ingredients
2 cups unbleached white all-purpose or pastry flour
1 teaspoon baking powder
1/4 teaspoon baking soda
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon or other spice (optional)


Preheat the oven to 350°. Prepare a 12-cup muffin tin by lightly oiling the cups or placing a paper liner in each cup.

If you want a topping, mix together all of the streusel ingredients and blend with a fork until the butter is pea-sized or smaller. Set aside. In a mixing bowl, cream together the butter and sugar until smooth. Beat in the egg and then the milk and vanilla; the mixture will look lumpy. By hand with a rubber spatula, fold in the fruit and/or nuts and/or chocolate chips. Set aside.

In a separate large bowl, sift together the flour, baking powder, baking soda, salt, and cinnamon, if using, and mix well. Add the wet ingredients to the dry ingredients and fold together with a rubber spatula without overmixing. Spoon about 1/3 cup of the batter into each muffin cup. Sprinkle each muffin with a scant tablespoon of streusel topping if you like.

Immediately place the muffins in the oven and bake for 30 to 35 minutes, until puffed and golden. After about 20 minutes, rotate the muffin tin in the oven to ensure even baking.

Remove the muffins from the oven and place the tins on a rack to cool for about 15 minutes. The hot muffins are quite soft and may fall apart if handled right away. Serve warm or cool completely and store in a sealed container at room temperature.


Peach Blueberry: 1 cup peeled and chopped fresh peaches and 1 cup fresh blueberries.
Apple Cranberry: 1 1/2 cups peeled, cored, and chopped Granny Smith apples, 1/2 cup fresh or frozen chopped cranberries (you can chop cranberries in a mini processor), and 1 additional tablespoon of sugar.
Mango Banana Chocolate Chip: 1/2 cup peeled, pitted, and chopped ripe mangos, 1 peeled and chopped ripe banana, and 1/2 cup semi-sweet chocolate chips.
Papaya Red Raspberry: 1 ripe papaya, peeled, seeded, and chopped and 1 cup fresh red raspberries.
Peaches & Pecans: 1 1/2 cups peeled and chopped fresh peaches and 1/2 cup chopped toasted pecans.
Pear Chocolate Almond: 1 cup peeled, cored, and chopped ripe pears, 1/2 cup chopped toasted almonds, and 1/2 cup semi-sweet chocolate chips.
Pumpkin Apple Cinnamon: 3/4 cup cooked mashed pumpkin (canned is fine), 1 cup peeled, cored, and chopped apples, and an additional 1/4 teaspoon of cinnamon.
Pumpkin Pecan Chocolate Chip: 3/4 cup cooked mashed pumpkin (canned is fine), 1/2 cup chopped toasted pecans, and 1/2 cup semi-sweet chocolate chips.
Strawberry Chocolate Almond: 1 cup chopped fresh strawberries, 1/2 cup chopped toasted almonds, and 1/2 cup semi-sweet chocolate chips.


4,787 posted on 03/31/2006 3:54:13 PM PST by WestCoastGal (What’s your water temp right there Junebug? 260-Oh, my bad 200.The little needle was in the way Heh)
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To: All

[a post for study and research, no url, from a news group]

"Pappy" Taylor still feared

Reuters

Friday, March 31, 2006

By Nick Tattersall

Sierra Leoneans are glad to see Africa's most notorious war crimes
suspect, ex-Liberian leader Charles Taylor, behind bars but fear his
presence could trigger more violence and would prefer to see him tried
abroad.

The former warlord was flown, handcuffed and surrounded by U.N.
peacekeepers, to the Special Court for Sierra Leone on Wednesday, after nearly
three years in exile, to face war crimes charges over his role in the
country's 1991-2002 civil war.

The U.N.-backed court has asked the Netherlands to hold the trial in
The Hague, citing fears that keeping him in Sierra Leone could provoke
unrest there and in neighbouring Liberia, where supporters have
threatened trouble if he appears in court.

"We do not want Charles Taylor in this place. Charles Taylor is a
serious war criminal. There is no place for him in Sierra Leone," said
Abubakarr Sapatah, 38, an off-duty security guard in the center of the
sprawling capital, Freetown.

"We've just come from war. He still has supporters in Sierra Leone, in
Liberia, in Ivory Coast. We're worried they'll try to help him," said
Sapatah, who lost a sister and brother in the war and saw Taylor-backed
rebels hack the arms off two of his friends.

Taylor was flown to Sierra Leone by U.N. peacekeepers based in Liberia
and put into a cell block next to the courthouse guarded by a dozen
blue-helmeted Mongolian U.N. guards.

Armed Sierra Leonean police patrol the barbed wire fence around the
compound and a rapid reaction force of several hundred Irish and Swedish
U.N. peacekeepers are on standby in Liberia.

"They would come by land, sea and air and they would come very
quickly," said Special Court spokesman Peter Andersen.

"This is not something we just started thinking about last week."

BITTER MEMORIES

Despite the reassurances, few in Freetown can forget the day in January
1999 when Taylor's rebels attacked the capital, descending from the
hills at night, mutilating civilians despite the presence of West African
ECOMOG peacekeepers.

"People fear they will do it again to get Charles Taylor free. They do
not believe in the international security," said Mohamed Conteh, 32, a
Taxi driver who was in Freetown that day.

It would not be the first time Taylor had evaded capture. He escaped
imprisonment in the United States in the early 1980s reportedly by
cutting the bars on the cell window with a hacksaw and scaling the wall using
a knotted sheet.

After almost three years in exile in Nigeria, Taylor was arrested on
the run on Wednesday in a jeep packed with money, trying to cross the
border to Cameroon.

Famed for his charisma, 58-year old Taylor was known simply as "Pappy"
to a generation of West African child soldiers, many of them high on
drugs as they wielded their Kalashnikovs.

Even from behind the barbed wire of the court compound, his presence
still instills fear in many who recall his words: "Sierra Leone will
taste the bitterness of war."

"I felt alive when he arrived because he's a cruel man being brought to
justice, but our fear is mercenaries will intervene," said Mohamed
Mansarey, whose right knee was shattered by a rebel bullet and whose
parents were killed in the conflict.

A rare voice of dissent comes from among the group of mostly young men
standing around him on the street corner.

"Let him be judged here in order for him to explain what led him to
bring war here," said Frangie Jalloh, a farmer before the war, now forced
to beg after rebels sliced off his right arm.

"I have had my hand chopped off. What more am I afraid of? If there is
the chance I would like to go and see him myself."

Copyright © 2006 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.


4,788 posted on 03/31/2006 4:07:46 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: WestCoastGal

I am saving your recipe, why can't we change it to fit in a bread machine?

I have never tried my 'cake' cycle, but have played with the recipe that adds / substitutes a cup of cake mix for part of the flour. and added a dry egg and used milk and nutmeg, it
is better than nothing, also add Almond flavoring to the yellow cake mix. and baked it on the reg bread cycle, yes
add the yeast, it really is a white basic bread with additions.

The first time I used part of a box of strawberry cake mix and it was so bad, the cats would not eat it.

Of course it was not a Duncan Hines cake mix, so didn't taste like strawberries....LOL

One could spend a month in those googles, I made me quit, as
that was not on my list to do for the day, one of these days
I will go even further back.

I couldn't resist this google and now wish I had time to look at it, these are different from what I saw 3 years ago.

Keep in mind that the recipes will go well with our stored
foods, as all the good stuff was rationed during WW2.

Laughing, I took time to note some thoughts on other era's.

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=WW2%20recipes%20and%20cookbook


4,789 posted on 03/31/2006 4:30:07 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: WestCoastGal

and the sourdoguh starter. As
long as I have been catering and cooking I have not done that. Maybe
it's time. <<<

Sourdough takes on a life of its own....

40 years ago, the State of Alaska had sourdough cookbooks,
I had one, and lost it in the moves.

There was a chocolate cake that took 2 days to make, not hard to make,
a matter of now stir this in, it was so good.

I should be able to find the Mormon Pumpkin Sourdough Bread
recipe, that you add a jar of mincemeat to.....wonderful.

The year that we lived in Chloride, I was active in the small town, we had a fund raiser almost every week.....

I did the cakes as usual, but then came the day that I did
not make the cakes and donated a few loaves of S.D. bread.

The old miners who lived there, asked if I would skip the
cakes in the future and donate all the bread that I could.

Read up on the starters, you can start with a basic one, as
I recall, a cup flour, a cup of water (maybe 2, to make a thick paste) one rounded tablespoon of yeast and I add about
a teaspoon of sugar, to feed the yeast.

A crock is best, or wrap the jar in tinfoil to shut out the
light.

DO NOT USE A SEALING LID, IT WILL EXPLODE, for the days it
sets out use a good paper towel and a rubber band for a lid.

Let it set out for 3 or 4 days, till it starts to smell sour and yeasty, then it is ok to put in the refrig, with a wax paper top.

My idea of a starter was a gallon jar glass, never use metal on it, not even a metal spoon to stir the starter. wood is best.

reading will give you more info, but it is simple, use part,
refeed and let set out for a day and then in the refrig.

You are not nice, all this talk of food and here I sit with
a "nothing sounds good, so I will have to eat cottage cheese"......yes, I have plenty of food, just not enough interest to mess with it today.


4,790 posted on 03/31/2006 4:51:09 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Ohhhhh the bread machine, I never thought about that. Good idea.

I love anything with almond flavor in it. YUM

Back to terror.......this is very long, but I'm posting all of it for you because I know your computer will not read Jills site. Some is translation jibberish but interesting.


Allah is the greatest / Allah soldiers / a horrible volcano ( Falkanou super ) it will level America soon ..By the command of Allah ..
( and what Lord soldiers know except he is 00 )

( Wala Tahsabanna Allah negligent about what the oppressors make 00 )
( say he capable assuming that he sends upon you a torture from above or from under your legs ... ) )

( and what send by the signs is except a frightening ) .

( and if we want that we destroy a village, we order its luxurious then they disobeyed in it then the saying became necessary on it then we destroyed it a destruction )

( the villages people Afamn is that our strength of a spending the night comes them and they are sleeping )

( Afamnoua the God's plan then it is not secure the God's plan only the people the losing )

( and also taking a Lord if it took the villages and she is unjust its taking is painful and strong )

O the raid of my pull Allah the walking is rushing * and destroyed America O the raid of an Allah


An integrated report about

A huge volcano calls

Possible that he destroys America next month ...And he issues a great cry that the world hears all ...The ordinary volcano of it is a mouth and she is an _expression about a small hole or making it brings out of it the melted lavas so that it becomes cold after its exit to the cold air relatively and hardens in the form of a mountain or a protrusion .

As for the huge volcano then he is an _expression about a big region it may collapse suddenly

For a graduation from it the gases and the lavas and rises to tens of kilometres

In the space and that accompanies a great cry that earth may hear all


This region it is not named a mouth but it is named the English Caldera

And in the state of the volcano of Yellowstone Yellowstone then the area of this region

She comes to 65 kilometres of presentation and 80 kilometres of length .And for this reason, it is difficult the recognition of these volcanoes to the non presence of the apparent mouth or clear mountain .

And the discovery of Yellowstone volcano has taken place by the space photography by the rays what under the red by the artificial satellites in the year of 1960
And its study and its surveillance started since then .. And there is no she many of these huge volcanoes in the scientist 0

And near this volcano it is found a double for it in east of State Of California

Long Valley what can happen in next period ... The present melted lavas under the region press the upper surface with the continuation of the rocks dissolution in this peel ..And when piece big falls in the size to the extent of that it weakens the upper peel then it causes the big explosion and there will be not any advance warning .. This explosion will send the lavas as far as several kilometres in the air with the sulfuric and acid gases and in the area their diameter is about 1000 surrounding km in the volcano it will not live one of ( except who had mercy on Lord ) and the lavas size is estimated at millions of tons what suffices for the coverage of The United States Of America is by the class of their thickness 12 cm . In this region that will not can until the planes the flight in it that the darkness will cover and it hides from it the sun and enters winter a volcanic it may continue for several years .
And the vegetables will not grow and no the fruits and no the trees are in a wider region

From the previous region but the acid rains may come to
Farther regions by many of what he will perish all what he is alive and he is done to an erosion
The vehicles and the vehicles . And the influence of these acid rains will come to the seas also . Of what he will be done to the extinction of a number of the creatures .
And from the estimated to these gases and the ash and the dust are to remain in the cover the passion and wraps the land of what it will lead to hiding the sun rays and consequently

The appearance of a new Ice Age .
Do this is the mentioned smoke in the Holy Quran ? Allah is alone a more knowledgeable by this

The indications on near the explosion

1 / in the seventies and after the focusing on statements some geometric measurement points that was put in 1923 through the road building in the region it became clear that the land in this region has risen by metre amount through fifty years, which show the presence of a pressure on it from below . And during the period from 1996 to 2000 she rose with the rate of 10 cm 0
2 / an increase in hot water spies movement surrounding the region .

3 / a steady increase in the earthquakes and the earthquakes in the region their number reached 15.000 between 1973 and 1998 / some of these earthquakes their intensity reached 6.1 in the year of 1975 and an another one of 7.5 in 1959 .

4 / an increase happened in the earth temperature rate in the region as an evidence on the presence of a lower heating that came to some of the points to 200 degrees of Fihrnhaet . Which led to the closure of these regions in front of the public .
This region it is named Norris Back Basin 0
5 / the death of herbs and trees in the region because of the rise of the heat
The secrecy of the American authorities on the seriousness of the situation

The professor but Mac Qouaer the specialist say by the geology dangers in
London university there is no place for the hiding from the huge volcano it represented the nuclear winter but without the radiation ......... Glory be to O Allah
However, about the cry that this explosion will issue, it knew it at hills

And it will is a noisy cry we kept Allah and all of the Muslims from its damage
And the question now an event is this actually ..

Not she falls from empires that wronged a lot and exploited their resources for the evil and the destruction and the injustice ¿ where are the Persians and the Romans and the Tatar .. And tomorrow where are Israel and America

And make them Lord they do not go out of a disaster except in a severer disaster from it, and no from a disaster except in a severer disaster from it, oh Allah and it destroyed their economy and the destruction of their structure and shook their corners, O the Lord of the Worlds .Oh Allah a secretary

Hurricanes from the soldiers of the powerful Allah

The radio of the Zio-American Cnn believed that Rita 's hurricane, that knocks on the southern doors of The United States, believed that this hurricane is considered the third strongest hurricane in its history .

The weather experts have forced in America that they announce that Catherina and Rita hurricane not the story end, then according to the last reports for them that America passes by a period have is a target to equatorial storms it turns to a destructive hurricane from the fifth degree when 000 approaches several Amrikiaobalakhs cities coasts near the Gulf of Mexico

The soldier of Allah focused on Allah enemies / the Americans /

News sources reported that the geologists in America discovered the swelling in the depth of the earth of its area quadruple 260 km and this may be beginning to a volcano, and that is in the American state of Iorihoun then Allah is the greatest praise be to God oh Allah increase America and who supported her from the enemies

In terrible statements for it the terror of the terrible hurricane realized :

Bush : America stops an incapable in front of the anger of the nature, and the reform of what the disaster left - that an unprecedented in America history - it will take years !!! Agencies : The American president George Bush said : We stop incapable in front of the anger of the nature [ I said : But he the revengeful great great wrath of God its magnificence became great ], and Bush described Catherina 's hurricane by that the worst disaster he hits The United States and leaves behind it Bahda losses extremely .

And said Bush after an air round inspected through it the regions that the hurricane hit : The reform of what the disaster left will take years, confirming that its administration moves quickly to the rescue of the victims from the hurricane .


Oh Allah I stress that trod you on your enemies and he focused on them who recruited you, oh Allah he destroyed their weapons and I make the constituency on them, and he brought the Muslims victors and safe O the Lord of the Worlds,

Islamists see in Catherina 's hurricane a divine support of the fight against America !

The daytime / Catherina 's hurricane and the terrific destruction that it left in south of The United States raise the comments of Islamic hardliners on the Internet it points in her majority that this hurricane represents a divine support of the militants in their war against The United States . And the support of this opinion did not confine to the extremists critics on the Internet, but it came also in an article that the newspaper of the Kuwaiti policy spread and carried signing the research center manager in the Ministry of Islamic Affairs Mohamed Youssef Al Mlifi . And Al Mlifi who calls naming terrorist Catherina on the hurricane said, in his article : I do not think and Allah know that this wind that the American cities crushes a crushing these days is from the wind of mercy and blessings and most probably that it is the torture wind favor and the evil winds that Allah empowered over that American empire .

And meanwhile a number of Islamists speak about the Internet about Al Jondi Catherina 's joining to the fight with us, and he adds a last comment that bless for ourselves and the militants Al Jondi Catherina 's joining to the fight with us . And these spread tens of scenes about the destroyed buildings and the streets that scattered in them the cars that the hurricane and the oil facilities drowned in the sea swept away, and the disaster area citizens and they go through the mud and in addition to a torn American media in Louisiana and Mississippi and Al Abama with doing the violent winds . And one of these put 50 images on the Internet to the lesson and the lesson and attached it to comment that says America with its power and its technological progress could not stand against a power the great . And the extremist of the another one of the Allah is the greatest of Allah soldiers suspends .

Catherina 's hurricane levels America Dka, hosting the Qur'anic verse and do not think Allah negligent about what the oppressors make . And he concluded that that represents a call from Allah for the continuation of the jihad in its sake . And another comment noticed that The United States hides about the losses, and its kindest setting by the Al-Qaeda leader images Osama Ben Ladin and the leader of the Iraqi branch Abu Mosaab Al Zarkoi and the previous Arab fighters leader in Chechnya the Saudi is Khattab who was killed in March 2002 . And the American authorities declared officially except the killing of 125 persons in Al Misisibi but the hurricane left probably thousands of dead in the stronger states of Louisiana and Al Misisibi a harm from Catherina in addition to grave material damages . And these extremist Islamists pour all of their curses over The United States and mock it .

And one of them wrote America that fights the Islam claiming the fight of the terrorism, and kills the innocents in Afghanistan and Iraq and supports the Zionist entity a repeating of 20 curses on The United States similar to that that the hardline Islamists use at the end of the prayer . And a number of extremists from the Internet users have saw in the destructive earthquake of Tsounami that hit the coasts of Indonesia and other countries in south of Asia in December 2004 a site 125 thousand dead and thousands of missing, a divine intervention, and especially from Thailand the debauchery homeland . And an expert said in the Islamic groups asked not to be named that the war on Iraq and the fear of the terrorism kindled the religious enthusiasm in The United States and especially since the election of the president ( George ) Bush . And the US Senate adopted in March 2003 a decision that advises the Americans on the fast and the prayer for securing the religious protection to The United States from the terrorism and for the protection of the American soldiers in Iraq .

Al-Zarqawi congratulates Ben Laden on the signs of The United States collapse

The east Þ / the Jordanian Islamist congratulated Abu Mosaab Al Zarkoi the Al-Qaeda leader in Iraq in a statement on the Internet yesterday the Al-Qaeda leader Osama Ben Ladin and its deputy Ayman Zawahiri and Mollah Omar the Taliban leader on the signs of The United States collapse after Catherina 's hurricane . And he came in the statement a pleasant of the Islamic nation and our fighting sheikh Osama Abi Abdullah and our prince Al Molla Omar and the sheikh Ayman Zawahiri, a pleasant of Al-Faloga people and the executor and a new Walkrabla, a pleasant of our family in Palestine, a pleasant of the Islamic nation and its good news with the destruction of the hamlet head America . There she is the collapse signs apparent on them . And the statement a short time ago added hitting America who wants and kills who wants and starves who wants and today it begs the oil and the food . She has dissolved the raid of an Allah on America and the prayer of the oppressed was answered . And Al-Zarqawi who his group adopted the Al-Qaeda Network in Mesopotamia said the responsibility of many of the martyrdom attacks in Iraq since the overthrow of the regime of the previous Iraqi president Saddam Hussein in April 2003, the support signs appeared in the horizon and descended the great anger on the people the unjust it has reached their thousands dead and their billions losses, the inability of the people of earth is from the Muslims about defending their religion, Lord are to the oppressors in the observatory .

The Lion of Allah Catherina was destroyed * and remove Al Mlaina buildings

She does not maintain in one of effect * and kill and the revenge of our ages revenges

Their people has leveled my land * and occupied Flstina land

And on the Afghans they have limped * and hear from an Iraqi a groan

They killed children and women * then kill them you come on O Catherina

Tore them cut them a piece * Friahk shook Lwezina

The creator recruited you at it * she weakens in them sometimes then sometimes

Lord you gave Bush and filled it an ornament and moneys in this life Lord so that they stray from your way am Lord obliterate on their moneys and strengthen on their hearts then they do not believe until they see the painful torment

The view of a splendor / the messenger of Allah peace be upon him in a vision says : He remained America paper

A good news to the supporters in the land and a good news of each unified Muslim and a good news of the triumphant sect that the messenger of Allah that one of the trusted have seen in north of Palestine - and do not recommend on Allah one - in a view in it the messenger appears peace be upon him that points in it to four persons that prayed with them two rak'ah and narrated to them about the close relief God willing a saying :He remained America paper .

O you the monotheists waited for the close relief in which the black monotheism flags rises so that it declares to the people Fustat the belief is the dependence of a rightly guided caliphate on the prophethood method from the squares of the blessed Al-Aqsa he was shaded by their justice of all of the earths and so that the religion all is Allah is the greatest

The view of Thebes / the sheikh Osama Ben Ladin on the surface of the moon : The prayer is collector
The moon is the successor / Al Mahdi / and the prayer is a stable Sunni university .....

And the Islam will prevail the land


http://www.homelandsecurityus.net/America%20Threats/allah_is_the_greatest1.htm


4,791 posted on 03/31/2006 4:51:54 PM PST by WestCoastGal (What’s your water temp right there Junebug? 260-Oh, my bad 200.The little needle was in the way Heh)
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March 31, 2006: Iran starts War Games dubbed "Holy Prophet" in
Persian Gulf, Gulf of Oman

According to the state-run Islamic Republic News Agency, Iran's war
games have kicked off despite the three earthquakes earlier today.

The IRNA report follows:

A joint maritime wargame, dubbed as Holy Prophet (PBUH), started here
Friday in the Persian Gulf waters.

Combatants from the navy and airforce of the Islamic Republic Army and
police, missile units of the air force and Basij (voluntary) forces
took part in the joint wargame.

Some 17,000 of combatants have taken part in the wargame, spokesman of
the wargame Vice-Rear Admiral Mohammad Ibrahimi Dehghani said on
Friday.

Over 1,500 gunboats along with all types of fighters, bombers and
choppers have taken part in the wargame, he pointed out.

One unit of Shahab 2 missile is to be launched to resemble peace and
friendship among littoral states of the Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman, he
said.

During the wargame various anti-offensive operations,
telecommunications, satellites, reconnaissance patrols and electronic systems are to be
conducted against the hypothetical enemies.

The wargame would be concluded on April 6.




For more translations and news on terrorism, visit
http://www.lauramansfield.com


4,792 posted on 03/31/2006 5:09:31 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: WestCoastGal

Thank you, no, I can't go to Jills site.

Do you know if this is new? or is it the old Yellowstone
message, added to an update?

An odd one and one that has the meaning of an attack.

The volcano, will be a large explosion....I think.

There are several things that need a google.

The names, such as Long Valley, are I think in the place that has many earthquakes a day and has done so for years.

Wasn't the last time we had the big Yellowstone message, when we also had the kids drawings of the big ships, along
the Canada border?

Why are they sending us a storm/volcano, when it was Iran that had the bad earthquake?

What do you think of it?

Am attempting to figure out how it ties to the news we have
had the last week or so.....

Thank you, for sending it.

Could the big explosion test that is going to take place in Nevada be tied to this?

I think it is June 7th, 2006. (6+7+6= 19


4,793 posted on 03/31/2006 5:33:22 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

It's at the top of Jill's site as a new post. I also thought that they had dug up some old stuff. It is above the recent warning today of an attack in Indonesia posted on TM, this goes also for Bali again.

Long Valley Caldera is a hot spot that runs east of the Sierras IIRC. It is the one that runs beneath Mammoth and is a volcanic area for sure. A big earthquake is expected there almost as big as the San Andreas.

I have a feeling that they are constantly working on their attack, this could be brought up again for the message.

I think they bring up Katrina and the storms because it was a bad time for our country and shows them that we are unprepared!!


4,794 posted on 03/31/2006 6:01:13 PM PST by WestCoastGal (What’s your water temp right there Junebug? 260-Oh, my bad 200.The little needle was in the way Heh)
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[part 1]

The roots of jihad
Author: David_IL
Date: 19-03-06 07:34

PARIS - Friends and supporters of Al-Afif al-Akhdar are convinced: the life of the veteran fighter for
secularism and democracy in the Arab world is in danger. A year ago, the Tunisian Islamic movement
Al-Nahdha, which is persecuted by the authorities in its country, condemned him as the author of the
scandalous book "The Unknown in the Prophet's Life." A Tunisian citizen, Akhdar has for decades been waging
a stubborn campaign to expose the dangers of Islamic fundamentalism, including those espoused by Sheikh
Rashed al-Ghanoushi, the leader of Al-Nahdha, who has been in exile in London since 1991. In an unsigned
declaration on its Internet site, Al-Nahdha referred to Akhdar, without naming him.

Two years earlier, the fingers of Akhdar's right hand became paralyzed, and the paralysis gradually spread
almost to his whole body. He published the details of his illness in order to explain why he had stopped
writing. Akhdar and his supporters are convinced that Sheikh Ghanoushi backed the declaration, even if he
did not write it himself, which speaks of divine punishment being inflicted on the "true author" of the
book that vilifies the prophet Mohammed.

In response to the declaration, which was construed as a fatwa condemning Akhdar to death, the Arab
organization for the Protection of Freedom of Expression and the Press organized a petition "against
obscurantist religious extremism," which called for the protection of Akhdar's life and freedom. Within two
months, the petition was signed by more than 600 intellectuals and academics, most of them Arabs. Akhdar,
who in the meantime regained his capacity for movement thanks to medical treatment (though he is still
unable to write, because his fingers remain too stiff), recently contacted the London solicitor Daniel
Machover about the possibility of taking legal action against Sheikh Ghanoushi.

It was not by chance that he turned to Machover, an expert in international law who gained fame last year
when he tried to bring about the arrest of an Israeli officer, Major General (res.) Doron Almog, who had
just landed in London, on suspicion that he had perpetrated war crimes while serving in the Gaza Strip.
Akhdar wants Islamic terrorists to get the same treatment as people who have committed crimes against
humanity. In October 2004 he was one of three Arab intellectuals who asked the UN secretary-general and the
Security Council to establish an international tribunal to try such terrorists, including clerics who issue
fatwas for the liquidation of "infidels."

Machover is the son of Prof. Moshe Machover, one of the founders of the radical socialist organization
Matzpen, which was active in Israel in the 1960s and 1970s. In the 1970s and 1980s, Akhdar and Moshe
Machover were members of a collective of Arab and Israeli revolutionaries who published the journal Khamsin
in Paris and afterward in London. Already then, Akhdar had identified the danger inherent in Islamic
fundamentalism and assailed the support of many left-wing activists for the "anti-imperialist" Islamic
revolution in Iran. In 1981 Hamsin published an article by him entitled "Why the Reversion fo Islamic
Archaism?" In the search for an analysis of the motivations and origins of Islamic terrorism following the
events of September 11, 2001, the article was republished on several anarchist and left-wing Web sites. The
article is signed Lafif Lakhdar, the author's user-friendly name for non-Arabs.

An Arab Spinoza

Akhdar, who is 72, conducts his struggle from an apartment in a poor Paris neighborhood, many of whose
residents are immigrants. He lives alone, "but with my 4,000 books I don't feel alone." Until 2002 he wrote
a weekly article for the London-based Arabic paper Al-Hayat, but was fired after he gave an interview to Al
Jazeera in which he condemned the barbarism of the corporal punishments that are meted out in Saudi Arabia,
such as amputation of limbs.

Since then, only a few Arab Web sites agreed to publish his articles, mainly Ilaf, a liberal Arabic Web
site whose owner pays him a modest monthly salary. Still, says Akhdar, whose first name, Al-Afif, means
"the modest one," his economic situation now is better than it was during most of his life. Just a few
years ago he was on the brink of starvation and traveled to the center of Paris every day (pensioners can
ride the Metro free) to have a free hot meal in a "restaurant for the poor."

His supporters believe that he deserves a great deal more. Dr. Shaker al-Nabulsi, a Jordanian researcher
who three months ago published (in Beirut) a book entitled "The Devil's Advocate," the first comprehensive
study of Akhdar's thought, wrote an ironic article about Arab society, which worries about ill and aging
singing stars but ignores the misery of an intellectual of Akhdar's stature. The article likens Akhdar to
the "prophet of liberty," Thomas Paine, who fought for human rights and secularism in the American War of
Independence and in the French Revolution. Yigal Carmon, head of the Washington-based MEMRI Institute,
which studies the Middle East media - the institute has translated and published several of Akhdar's
articles - likens him to Spinoza, who like him was persecuted and ostracized because he insisted on
grounding his thought, including his critique of religion, on reason.

"If we were living in a normal world, the entire world left would acclaim him," Carmon says. "He is an
amazing person, deeply immersed in Arabic and French culture, an intellectual with broad, diverse and
up-to-date knowledge, not only in philosophy, Islam and history, but also in psychology, and he is
thoroughly humane. The French, or the Europeans in general, who are coping with problems of immigration,
should have placed him at the head of an advisory council on integration, where he could explain, educate
and serve as a role model."

Akhdar, who is completely immersed in his present struggles, objects to the focus on him and his life.
"Seven lines are enough to present me to readers in Israel," he says. "It is far more important to
concentrate on explaining the dangers that inhere in jihadist Islam."

He was born to a poor Muslim family of fellahin; they lived in a hovel 13 kilometers from the nearest
village. Seven of his eight brothers and sisters died in childhood (his only surviving brother is a lawyer
in Tunisia). Apart from half a year in a French school, which was shut down during World War II, he
received no formal education, only Koran studies in the village, and he chose a religious university
because it was tuition-free and offered free lodgings and a modicum of food. ("For two weeks during the
religion lessons, I secretly read Darwin.') He then studied law and afterward worked for three years as a
lawyer.

In 1958 he represented an opponent of the regime who was convicted and executed. The authorities then
issued an order restricting Akhdar's movement. In 1961 he fled Tunisia with the help of Algerian freedom
fighters and spent nearly 20 years wandering the world using forged passports. He became a socialist in
Algeria ("First of all from the gut, because of the hunger - I didn't understand why others had and I
didn't - and then I found philosophical justification for the message of egalitarianism"). He was close to
Algerian President Ahmed Ben Bella, and was present at the meeting of Abu Jihad and Che Guevara, but in
1965 had to flee Algeria after Ben Bella was deposed in a military coup.

He spent some time in Germany, both East and West, and visited the Middle East, where he formed an
unfavorable impression of the Baath regime in Syria, in part because of its attitude toward the Jewish
community. In 1968 he was a guest of the Fatah leadership in Amman, which housed him in the same apartment
as Yasser Arafat, rather than in a hotel, in order to protect him from Algerian intelligence agents. Over
the years he has incurred the wrath of nearly every Arab regime, and thus the danger of death is nothing
new to him. He has also been highly critical of the "progressive" national movements and of the Arab
Communist parties, which supported dictatorial regimes of oppression and feared to confront the clerics.

"He is in the vanguard," says Prof. Emmanuel Sivan, an expert in Islamic history from the Hebrew University
of Jerusalem, who corresponds regularly with Akhdar and visited him during his illness. "Earlier, he was in
the vanguard with regard to the Marxist camp and now, after the turnabout he experienced, he is in the
vanguard of the Arab liberal camp. He takes sacred cows and deals with them. He was the first who dared to
compile and publish in Arabic everything Lenin wrote about religion, and thus drew the enmity of the Arab
Communist parties. He was also one of the first who acknowledged the need to study Israeli society
methodically, and in recent years he has written much about what can be learned from Israeli democracy."

Akhdar was soon disappointed in the Fatah leaders, some of whom were influenced by the ideas of the Muslim
Brothers. "Abu Jihad told me that there is no chance of overcoming Israel by force of arms, but 'if enough
Palestinians are killed maybe the world will hear about us.'" He was far more impressed by Nayef Hawatmeh,
founder of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine. "Hawatmeh argued that the only
justification for forming a fighting force is to topple the Arab regimes," he says. "He convinced me.
Hawatmeh also contributed a great deal to the entrenchment of the idea that the Israeli people and its
rights must be recognized, and of the need to arrive at a compromise with Israel, but since then there was
a great regression in his attitude toward the armed struggle."

Akhdar spent the next few years between Paris and Beirut, with a foray to socialist South Yemen. The civil
war in Lebanon induced him to stay in Paris for good. At the end of the 1970s he received a Tunisian
passport again, and for the first time in years emerged from the underground. He retranslated the Communist
Manifesto into Arabic, based on the German source (he insisted that the cover declare that it is "the first
genuine translation" and found a publisher only in the Israeli radical left), to which he appended a sequel
of his own, "The Origins of the Arab Bourgeoisie." Some readers discerned a Koranic influence in his
writing, to which he admits: "I integrate the poetic spirit of the early parts of the Koran, which are all
poetry, with the logical, spare and synonym-less structure of the French sentence."

During this period, he met the Israeli writer Shimon Ballas in Paris. In 1984, Ballas published his novel
"Last Winter," in which one of the protagonists is based on Akhdar. In the novel he is called Bashir
Halimi, a revolutionary of Moroccan origin.

Terror from Islam

The book that reveals "secrets" from the life of Mohammed, which was written by a certain Dr. Al-Makrizi -
though Al-Nahdha accused Akhdar of being the author - can be read in Arabic on a Christian Web site. A
perusal of the book shows clearly that its goal is to "prove" to Muslim believers that Mohammed is not
exactly the prophet who appears in their sacred writings and to persuade them to join the "true religion,"
namely Christianity. "The book was apparently written by an anti-Muslim Christian Egyptian who is not very
smart," Akhdar says. "It is Christian religious propaganda. How can they accuse me, when they say I am a
secular infidel atheist, of writing such a book? Am I a stupid Christian?"

And does the real author deserve to be the subject of a fatwa?

"No. The culture should be free, and every artist and every researcher should be free to write about all
religions without any restriction."

Does that include the Danish cartoonist?

"Yes. It includes humor and satire. In the history of Islam you have the poet Abu Nawas, who joked about
the Koran. He wrote, for example, "Your Lord did not say woe to the drunkards / But woe to the worshipers."
That is a secular principle: separation between religion and politics, and between religion and artistic
and literary creation, and between religion and scientific research. This is the greatest achievement of
modernity. The clerics must not be allowed to intervene in these matters.

"As for the cartoons, one has to see which Arab and Islamic forces protested the affront to Mohammed and
used it for their purposes. Syria was the first country to recall its ambassador from Denmark - the same
Syria which in 1982 killed 30,000 'Mohammeds' at Hama. Its protest intended to make people forget its
responsibility for the assassination of [former Lebanese prime minister Rafik] Hariri. Iran is the same
Iran that prevents the Sunnis in Tehran from building a mosque. It protested in order to divert attention
from its nuclear program.

"Saudi Arabia is the same Saudi Arabia that, as part of its plan to turn Mecca into a modern city, decided
to demolish the building in which Mohammed married Khadija - a rare historic site - in order to build a
public lavatory in its place. It protests in order to make [Muslims] forget its war against Al-Qaida.
Sheikh Yusuf al-Kardawi, who stirred up the Arab world against the cartoon in his television program on Al
Jazeera, did what all the Islamic movements did: He used the protest against the cartoon in order to show
Muslims why it is necessary to break relations with the 'infidels' and in order to foment an interreligious
war.

"One has to see who is using the cartoon for his purposes. The workers? The fellahin? No. It is those who
are demolishing Mohammed's house and protesting a cartoon."

Many Muslims are protesting the identification of Mohammed, and hence of Islam as such, with terrorism. Is
terrorism in fact ingrained in Islam?

"This is what the Islamists themselves say, like the spiritual mentor of Ayman al-Zawahiri , who is not
second in importance in Al-Qaida, but first in terms of religious law, as well as planning and thought. His
mentor is Sheikh Abed al-Qadr bin Abed al-Aziz (whose real name is A-Sayed Imam Abed al-Aziz a-Sharif), who
asserted, 'Terror is from Islam and anyone who denies this is a heretic'. He and others rely on a few
verses from the Koran, and I will give you, as an example, only one of them, from the Surah of the Spoils
of War [Surah 8:60]: 'Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds
of war, to strike terror into [the hearts of] the enemies of Allah and your enemies' [translation from
Abdullah Yusuf Ali, "The Meaning of the Holy Qur'an"]."

On what, then, do Muslims who deny the identification of Islam with jihad and terrorism rely on?

"There are two Islams from the period of Mohammed. There is Meccan Islam [referring to Mohammed's period in
Mecca], which is a 'Christian' Islam - that is, under Christian influence - and is essentially
peace-seeking. The use of violence, even for self-defense, was prohibited. In this Islam, jihad was
prohibited. This Islam was the basis for the mystical Sufi movement.

"When Mohammed was forced to move from Mecca to Medina, a second Islam - jihadist Islam - was born. And it
is this Islam that the contemporary terrorists have adopted. To justify the passage from the 'conciliatory'
peace of Mecca to the militant peace of Medina, Mohammed told the Muslims that jihad is permissible only
for self-defense [Surah of The Pilgrimage - Surah 22:39]: 'To those against whom war is made, permission is
given [to fight], because they are wronged.' Mohammed was wronged - he was expelled from Mecca, and the
purpose of the defensive jihad is to enable his return.

"Medinaist Islam is terrorist Islam. Sheikh Yusuf al-Kardawi says that terrorism in Islam is positive and
should be welcomed. Here he is drawing in part on verse 12 in the Surah of the Spoils of War: 'I will
instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: Smite ye above their necks and smite all their
fingertips off them.' Osama bin Laden, in a speech on the occasion of Id al-Adha in 2003, said that it is
best to follow the blessed terror about which al-Kardawi speaks."

Is there anything that can be done so that Meccan Islam will be strengthened and overcome Medinaist Islam?

"My answer is my plan for the reform of Islam, a reform of the Islamic discourse, of religious education,
the religious media, the sermons in the mosques, and so forth. The plan is to remove from the textbooks all
the violent and jihadist verses and leave them only in the source, in the holy writings."

Censorship?

"To a certain extent, yes. In Tunisia, this has been done since 1999. The plan is that instead of the
violent verses, schoolchildren will be taught the universal verses of peace which exist in the Mecca
period. For example, Verse 62 of the Surah of the Heifer, which says, 'Those who believe [in the Koran],
and those who follow the Jewish [Scriptures], and the Christians and the Sabians, any who believe in Allah
and the Last Day and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear,
nor shall they grieve.' And there are another two similar verses. The sages of the Sharia all said that
these are 'annulled' verses. We have to annul the annulment of these three verses and declare that it is
the verses against the Jews and the Christians that are 'annulled.'

"The plan I proposed includes the introduction of modern sciences in the institutions of religious
education, as well as comparative history of the religions and psychology and sociology of the religions,
so that students will be able to understand the religious text in terms of modern logic. And also courses
in philosophy and human rights, in order to instill modern values into Islam, in which there are now only
values of permitted-prohibited.

"Several Arab regimes have already begun to implement this plan, or parts of it. In Morocco, for example,
philosophy is now being taught in high schools. In Algeria, a year after I sent an open letter to President
Bouteflika, calling on him to eliminate Sharia instruction in high-school education, a law in this spirit
was enacted last October. And in October 2005, Libya, too, canceled the teaching of jihadist Islam and of
the verses that justify violence."

The ambush of history

Many are convinced that the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip is one of the major
reasons for Islamic terrorism. Is this so?

"Not at all. People who say this, including experts on whose opinions Western decision-makers rely, do not
truly understand the theology of Islamic terror. What are the goals of the terrorism perpetrated by
Al-Qaida? Zawahiri described this clearly in his book, 'Horsemen under the Prophet's Banner,' which he
effectively wrote as his last testament shortly before the terrorist offensive of September 11 (he was
certain that after the attack the United States would liquidate all of them).

"Here is what he wrote, on pages 327-328: 'The jihadist movement must strive for the Islamic nation to take
part with it in its jihad, and the Islamic nation will not take part as long as the masses of the Islamic
nation do not understand the slogans of the Mujahideen.' And he adds, 'Therefore the jihadist movement is
obliged to abandon the limitation of going into the fray solely under these slogans - al-hakimiya, al-walaa
and al-baraa' - meaning religious rule based on the Sharia, Islamic religious law; forging ties with
believers only; and total and immediate severance from the unbelievers.

"The goal of Islamic terror, then, is to establish a state that will implement the Sharia and divorce
itself completely from the infidels - from their religions, their customs, their dress, their institutions,
their sciences and their values.

"But al-Zawahiri is smart and is aware of the reality. 'Regrettably,' he writes, 'these slogans are not
comprehensible to the masses of the nation, who do not find within themselves readiness to sacrifice for
slogans they do not understand, even if the slogans are one hundred percent correct.'"

What solution does he propose?

"He knows that a great deal of time is needed before the masses will understand these slogans. However, he
writes, 'It is clear that our enemies will not give us all the time we need to educate the nation.' What,
then, is to be done? His answer: 'To our slogans [as listed above] we must add other slogans, which are
understandable to the masses of the Islamic nation, and instead of viewing them as being of secondary
importance, we must move them forward so that they take their place at the forefront' - on the same level
as the three original slogans."

What are the additional slogans he promotes?

"'The slogan that the Islamic nation has understood well for 50 years,' he writes. 'This is the slogan of
the call for a jihad against Israel.' You have to understand, for him this is a second-rank goal and its
use is solely as a Machiavellian means: If we tell them that the goal is a Muslim state that will amputate
thieves' hands, they will say no, but this goal is clear and simple.

"Another slogan that Zawahiri promotes is the liberation of the Islamic holy places in Saudi Arabia from
the American military presence in the Arabian Peninsula, and in Jerusalem from the presence of the Israeli
army. The liberation of Palestine is not the central goal of the terror, but the struggle for it helps the
terrorists recruit Muslims for the jihad against the Jews and against the 'Crusaders.' In contrast to the
left, they hate neither American imperialism nor Zionism; they hate the Christians and the Jews. Not
because of what the Jews and the Christians are doing to the Muslims, but only because they are Christians
and Jews who did not accept the true faith, Islam."

Is this also true of the Palestinian Islamic organizations, such as Hamas?

"Yes. True, Hamas asserts that its goal is the liberation of Palestine to the last clod, and its
transformation into Islamic Waqf [charitable trust] of all the Muslims in the world. This is undoubtedly an
unattainable goal, but its role is to mobilize the Palestinians and the Islamic nation for a jihad against
Israel and against its allies in the West.

"Incidentally, al-hakimiya, al-walaa and al-baraa are the foundation in the theology of all the Islamic
movements of the modern period. For example, Rashed al-Ghanoushi, in his book 'The General Freedoms in the
Muslim State,' says that Ibn Taymiyya viewed hatred of the infidels as a basic goal of the Islamic Sharia.
And this Ibn Taymiyya, who lived in the 14th century, is THE sheikh of the modern Islamic terrorists. And
who is an infidel? Not only those who believe in other religions. Ibn Taymiyya stated that the Shiites are
infidels, and he was the first to state that the Sufis are infidels, and the philosophers are infidels, and
in short anyone who departs a little from what true Islam views as the right path is declared an infidel."

We will return, with your permission, to Hamas.

"And to terrorism. Contrary to the declared goal of Hamas, the establishment of a Palestinian state in the
West Bank and Gaza can be realized, but its establishment will pull the ground from under the excuse for
terrorism (the liberation of Palestine), so that Hamas will be left only with the three slogans, which the
Islamic nation does not understand."

Taking into account the Hamas Charter, is there any prospect that this movement will reach a settlement
with Israel?

"The Hamas Charter is taken from the theology of Islamic Jihad. When Hamas announced the possibility of a
long-term hudna [cease-fire] with Israel, Western commentators, who are unfamiliar with jihadist theology,
wrote that Hamas had become more moderate. That is a foolish diagnosis. Bin Laden recently offered the
United States a long-term hudna - so has he become moderate, too?

"Like bin Laden, Hamas took this straight from the jihad theology. What does this theology say? When the
Muslim army is weak and is in an inferior position, it must ask for a hudna of three-four years in order to
exploit the time to strengthen itself. This is the 'long term' of jihad."

Is it possible to persuade the Hamas leadership to conduct peace negotiations with Israel?

"It is difficult. In such a case, jihad theology will view the Hamas leaders as heretics, because that
theology prohibits the ceding of even an inch of Muslim land to infidels. After the Oslo accord, Rashad
a-Ranoushi issued a fatwa in which he declared Arafat and the PLO leadership infidels and [said] that all
the sages of Islam view as a criminal anyone who cedes one iota of the soil of Palestine. But reality is
stronger than the Koran, and I have no doubt that the more rational of the Hamas leaders will deviate from
that religious law and accept Israel's existence."

So you also see a positive aspect in the Hamas electoral victory?

"Yes. History has laid an ambush for Hamas. The Hamas movement did not want to win, it wanted to be the
second most important force, after Fatah, and to delay the implementation of the 'road map.' After the
victory, the movement finds itself in a situation in which it must choose: either it forgoes its charter,
and the jihad, in order to negotiate with Israel, or the Palestinian people will forgo it."

Is there also a democratic lesson here - there is no need to seize power by force, there is the possibility
of winning at the polls?

"The Islamists are against democracy. For them, the legitimacy of government derives from Islamic religious
law, not from elections."

If Hamas loses the next elections, will its people give up power?

"Giving up power is forbidden in Islam: the ruler rules until his death. Hamas will not be ready for an
exchange of government as a result of an election loss, but in the end this will be decided by the balance
of power that will prevail at the time; it will depend on the true power that will accrue to the winning
side."

The president of the United States says that jihadist terror is the greatest threat to world peace. Do you
agree?

"Islamic terror is a great enemy of humanity, but so is rampant capitalism. The world is being managed
without wisdom and humanity is in constant danger of an ecological disaster, a nuclear disaster and a
biological disaster.

"Capitalism is a necessary historical stage. At first it was wild and left many victims in its wake. As a
result, a counter-movement arose, which succeeded in 'taming' it by stages, in 'civilizing' its barbarian
impulses. Now it is running wild again and we must fight to tame it anew."

Once you believed that the workers and their allies would succeed in toppling capitalism in a socialist
revolution.

"Today I think this is not possible. What will apparently happen is that capitalism will gradually change,
by itself and under pressure from its opponents, and will become something else. The workers do not want a
dictatorship of the proletariat, but they do want to receive services and commodities free. We have to
struggle for free health [care], free bread and milk (every year surpluses of milk are dumped - why not
distribute it to hungry children?), free culture, free public transportation."

There is a Belgian city that has already introduced free public transit.

"Really? That is very interesting. Michel Jobert, the foreign minister under Pompidou, told me that in 1970
the minister of transportation said that it was possible to run the Paris Metro for free, and it would cost
the government less. What did President Pompidou say to that? 'No, if we give them the Metro free they will
demand bread and milk free, too.'

"To this we have to add the change in democracy that is made possible by the media and communication
revolution, from a democracy of elected representatives over whom the voters have no supervision after
their vote and who can break their promises, to direct democracy, in which more and more decisions will be
made in referendums."

So you have changed your mind?

"Certainly. In the Muslim Arab culture you have to hold the views of your tribe and your religion, which
were set in previous generations, and you must not think for yourself or change your opinion. Every day I
read 70 pages of philosophical and scientific writing, and I change 70 times under the influence of the
facts and ideas I encounter. And then I am asked, 'Why did you say one thing 20 years ago and something
different now?'

"In the eyes of the Muslim Arabs, an intellectual is a kind of prophet, whose words are absolute truth. I
am not a prophet, I am a researcher of society. And science - what, really, is science? It is a mistake
that was corrected, a mistake that needs to be corrected. Very soon I will perhaps make a new correction."


4,795 posted on 03/31/2006 6:14:48 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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[the end and urls]

http://albawabaforums.com/read.php3?f=3&i=155679&t=155679

So you have changed your mind?

"Certainly. In the Muslim Arab culture you have to hold the views of your tribe and your religion, which
were set in previous generations, and you must not think for yourself or change your opinion. Every day I
read 70 pages of philosophical and scientific writing, and I change 70 times under the influence of the
facts and ideas I encounter. And then I am asked, 'Why did you say one thing 20 years ago and something
different now?'

"In the eyes of the Muslim Arabs, an intellectual is a kind of prophet, whose words are absolute truth. I
am not a prophet, I am a researcher of society. And science - what, really, is science? It is a mistake
that was corrected, a mistake that needs to be corrected. Very soon I will perhaps make a new correction."

When we met in Paris 25 years ago, you told me that you would like to visit Israel in order to participate
with the workers in their struggle. In Shimon Ballas' book, too, the character based on you plans to go to
Israel, but in order to study Hebrew. What prevents you from visiting?

"Now, the illness. Because of my support for a compromise with Israel, I am occasionally asked, 'If the
government of Israel were to invite you to visit, what would you do?' And I reply: a government has to
invite a prime minister, a minister or a politician, not me. But if I receive an invitation from the civil
society, from nongovernmental organizations, I will not reject it. In any event, if you succeed in reaching
peace and the establishment of a Palestinian state, I will try to come even if I am very sick, in order to
celebrate with you and with the Palestinians."

Source
http://tinyurl.com/n7ask


Then I saw that wisdom excelleth folly, as far as light excelleth darkness.


4,796 posted on 03/31/2006 6:29:16 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: WestCoastGal

Long Valley Caldera is a hot spot that runs east of the Sierras IIRC. It
is the one that runs beneath Mammoth and is a volcanic area for sure.
A big earthquake is expected there almost as big as the San Andreas. <<<

Yes, that is the one that I was remembering, could not think of Mammoth....

I think that you are correct, I think that I saw the warning for Bali in one of my news headlines, or on the list that I just posted, haven't had time to read it yet.

Are there jihadi posts to go with the Bali alert?

If this is new, then there are going to be some codes in it.


4,797 posted on 03/31/2006 6:36:30 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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http://albawabaforums.com/read.php3?f=3&i=157401&t=157401

On Islamic threat
Author: David_IL
Date: 28-03-06 11:55

The Islamic threat is greater than German and Soviet threats were

Only four types of individuals can deny the threat to civilization posed by the violence-supporting segment
of Islam: the willfully naive, America-haters, Jew-haters and those afraid to confront evil.

Anyone else sees the contemporary reality -- the genocidal Islamic regime in Sudan; the widespread Muslim
theological and emotional support for the killing of a Muslim who converts to another religion; the absence
of freedom in Muslim-majority countries; the widespread support for Palestinians who randomly murder
Israelis; the primitive state in which women are kept in many Muslim countries; the celebration of death;
the "honor killings" of daughters; and so much else that is terrible in significant parts of the Muslim
world -- knows that civilized humanity has a new evil to fight.

Just as previous generations had to fight Nazism, communism and fascism, our generation has to confront
militant Islam.

And whereas there were unique aspects to those evils, there are two unique aspects to the evil emanating
from the Islamic world that render this latest threat to humanity particularly difficult to overcome.

One is the number of people who believe in it. This is a new phenomenon among organized evils. Far fewer
people believed in Nazism or in communism than believe in Islam generally or in authoritarian Islam
specifically. There are one billion Muslims in the world. If just 10 percent believe in the Islam of Hamas,
the Taliban, the Sudanese regime, Saudi Arabia, Wahhabism, bin Ladin, Islamic Jihad, the Finley Park Mosque
in London or Hizbollah -- and it is inconceivable that only one of 10 Muslims supports any of these groups'
ideologies -- that means a true believing enemy of at least 100 million people. Outside of Germany, how
many people believed in Nazism? Outside of Japan, who believed in Japanese imperialism and militarism? And
outside of universities, the arts world or Hollywood, how many people believed in Soviet-style
totalitarianism?

A far larger number of people believe in Islamic authoritarianism than ever believed in Marxism. Virtually
no one living in Marxist countries believed in Marxism or communism. Likewise, far fewer people believed in
Nazism, an ideology confined largely to one country for less than one generation. This is one enormous
difference between the radical Islamic threat to our civilization and the two previous ones.

But there is yet a second difference that is at least as significant and at least as frightening: Nazis and
Communists wanted to live and feared death; Islamic authoritarians love death and loathe life.

That is why MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) worked with the Soviet Union. Communist leaders love life --
they loved their money, their power, their dachas, their mistresses, their fine wines -- and were hardly
prepared to give all that up for Marx. But Iran's current leaders celebrate dying, and MAD may not work,
because from our perspective, they are indeed mad. MAD only works with the sane.

There is much less you can do against people who value dying more than living.

The existence of an unprecedentedly large number of people wishing to destroy decent civilization as we
know it -- and who celebrate their own deaths -- poses a threat the likes of which no civilization in
history has had to confront.

The evils committed by Nazism and Communism were, of course, greater than those committed by radical Islam.
There has been no Muslim Gulag and no Muslim Auschwitz.

But the threat is far more serious.


4,798 posted on 03/31/2006 6:59:14 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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Sorry, I think that was funny, when they used the Arkansas
site for jihadi websites, wasn't that 007? I think so



I thought it funny too.


4,799 posted on 03/31/2006 7:23:54 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Words fail me.)
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[a post for study and research, this 2002 article, says that al qaida is buying missiles from China, large enough to take down a B-52...granny]

from the August 09, 2002 edition -
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0809/p01s01-wosc.html

Al Qaeda massing for new fight

Afghan spies say the group has two new bases in Pakistan and
is acquiring missiles.

By Scott Baldauf | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

ASADABAD, AFGHANISTAN - Three separate clashes with Al Qaeda
fighters this week, including Wednesday's foiled attack inside the city
of Kabul, point to the terrorist organization's resurgence in
Afghanistan.

But there may be much more to come.

According to exclusive interviews with Afghan military intelligence
chiefs in the eastern Afghan province of Kunar, Al Qaeda has
established two main bases inside Pakistan – hundreds of miles north
of where US and Pakistani troops are now hunting – and is preparing
for a massive strike against the Afghan government. To blunt US air
superiority, Al Qaeda forces are attempting to acquire surface-to-air
missiles in China.

"Al Qaeda has regrouped, together with the Taliban, Kashmiri
militants, and other radical Islamic parties, and they are just waiting
for the command to start operations," says Brig. Rahmatullah
Rawand, chief of military intelligence for the Afghan Ministry of
Defense in Kunar Province. "Right now they are trying to find
anti-aircraft missiles that are capable of hitting America's B-52
bombers. When they find those, they will bring them here."

Spokesmen for the American military operations in Afghanistan say
they are able to confirm parts of the Afghan intelligence reports, and
add that they are prepared for any possible Al Qaeda military
offensive in the next few weeks or months.

"I can't say I have never heard these reports before about the areas
you are mentioning," says Lt. Col. Roger King, spokesman for the
US-led Operation Enduring Freedom at Bagram Air Base outside of
Kabul. "Some parts of the intelligence reports and the locations you've
described are similar to what we are hearing ourselves, and other
parts are different." He declined to say which parts were similar and
which parts were different.

The US is currently making sure it has enough troop strength in areas
where Al Qaeda is deemed to be most active, he says.

"If you look back over time, you find there are two fighting seasons in
this country," says Colonel King. "We're at the beginning of one, and
the other ended in May."

A US soldier on patrol near the Pakistan border in Paktika Province
was wounded by a sniper Wednesday night, and airlifted to a medical
facility in Germany yesterday.

In Kunar Province, Afghan intelligence sources say that their reports
were compiled this week, after Afghan spies, pretending to be Islamic
radicals, infiltrated the two Al Qaeda camps in Pakistan. The report
concludes that China itself may be involved in supporting the camps,
either by tacitly allowing Islamic radicals of the ethnic Uighur minority
in China's western Xinjiang Province to cross into Pakistan to join Al
Qaeda, or overtly offering to provide Al Qaeda with antiaircraft
missiles.

"That area, even though it is in Pakistan, is basically under the
government of China," says Afghan Brigadier Rawand. "There is a
possibility that the Chinese are also involved in this, and they may
give Al Qaeda the missiles."

Military experts agree that the ability of Al Qaeda to shoot down
American B-52 bombers would alter tactics and undermine US efforts
in the Afghan war. It was the B-52s, together with precision-guided
bombs and munitions, rather than troops on the ground, that
destroyed the Taliban's defenses outside of Kabul and other
strongholds and forced the Taliban and Al Qaeda to give up control of
Afghanistan.

"The Americans are proud of their control of the air, but they don't
take care of the ground," says Brig. Ghulam Haider Chatak, chief of
military intelligence for the eastern zone of Afghanistan, which
includes Kunar, Laghman, and Nangarhar provinces. "Now they could
lose both."

Here in Kunar Province, a lush green region of fertile well watered
valleys and tall forested mountains, US special forces carry out joint
operations with local Afghan forces mainly along the major roads to
Asadabad and within the capital itself.

Local military commanders, who report to the Ministry of Defense,
complain that the Americans are working only with one warlord,
Commander Zarin, and not with the official military units of President
Hamid Karzai's government.

"Unfortunately, in the last six months, the international coalition
forces haven't taken any bold steps against Al Qaeda," says
Commander Mohammad Zaman, military chief of Kunar Province,
under the command of the Afghan Ministry of Defense. "That's why Al
Qaeda and the terrorists are all present here. They have only changed
their outfits, from turbans to pukhols," floppy woolen hats favored by
Afghan fighters in the Northern Alliance.

Arab radicals and Taliban supporters walk the street of the capital
here, apparently without fear of capture, preaching their harsh version
of Islam and calling for an uprising against American and other
foreign troops supporting the Karzai government.

Bin Laden alive?

Meanwhile, intelligence sources say that just over the border in
Pakistan, most of the top Taliban and Al Qaeda leadership, including
Osama bin Laden himself, have been seen moving into northern
Pakistan from the tribal belt south of the Afghan town of Tora Bora.
Mr. bin Laden, the top Al Qaeda leader, was last seen three weeks ago
in the Pakistani tribal city of Dir, about 45 miles east-northeast of
Asadabad.

Osama's top lieutenant, Ayman Zawahiri, is now thought to be
directing operations from Al Qaeda's newly built base in the village of
Shah Salim, about 30 miles west of the Pakistani city of Chitral, near
the border of Afghanistan's Kunar Province. The other base is in the
Pakistani village of Murkushi on the Chinese border, about 90 miles
north of the Pakistani city of Gilgit.

To fight a new war against American forces, Al Qaeda is reportedly
broadening its base of support to include new like-minded members,
including the Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and his
Pashtun-dominated radical Islamist Hizb-I-Islami party.

Mr. Hekmatyar's party, which received substantial Saudi funding, CIA
training, and Pakistani military support during the war against the
Soviet occupation of the 1980s, still enjoys support in Kunar and
other Pashtun-dominated provinces and is also the closest in
ideological terms to the Taliban.

From exile in Iran last fall, Mr. Hekmatyar called on all Muslims to
fight alongside the Taliban against any invasion of American forces.

With its renewed mission, Al Qaeda has taken on a new name, Fateh
Islam, or Islamic Victory. Their battle plan, Afghan intelligence
sources say, is to launch a massive attack on eastern Afghanistan, by
crossing along the poorly defended mountainous border of Kunar
Province, where opium and timber smugglers take their products out
of Afghanistan either undetected or with the compliance of corrupt
Afghan border officials.

On the streets of Asadabad itself, it's clear that Al Qaeda already has
established a network of informers and preachers. In mosques and
religious schools, Al Qaeda members have begun whipping up local
anger against the US presence in Afghanistan, and the
house-to-house searches in Kunar.

One Arab man, dressed in Afghan salwar kameez, but wearing the
traditional white headdress of a Saudi preacher, was seen this week
standing in the center of the main square of Asadabad, before being
led away by two young religious students toward a local mosque.

Another man, who teaches primary school in Asadabad, told the
Monitor there are plenty of Al Qaeda supporters in Kunar.

"I'm proud to be Al Qaeda," says Abdur Rahim, a soft-voiced man who
studied Islam for 16 years at a hard-line Islamic seminary in
Peshawar, Pakistan. "I'm 100 percent sure they will come back here.
It will be very soon, and the Taliban were 100 times better than these
warlords who rob us on the streets."

"The jihad is compulsory against the kaffirs [unbelievers], but we
cannot fight against their planes," he adds. Speaking of American
special forces based in Asadabad, he says, "These are infidels and
they have destroyed our religion. Jews and Christians, all of them, we
want Muslim forces, we don't want infidels."

As a crowd gathers, cautioning the Al Qaeda member to be quiet, Mr.
Rahim becomes even more outspoken. "Everyone here feels like me,
but some people have big hearts and others have little faith. These
people are quiet because they have little faith."

Other Afghans seem more pragmatic. Mohammad Malang, a timber
merchant in Asadabad's massive lumber market, says hundreds of
Arabs came through Kunar late last year, after the bombing campaign
began on the mountain hideout of Tora Bora, south of Jalalabad. Now,
when he carries wood to the border of Pakistan on his logging truck,
he sees plenty of Al Qaeda fighters coming and going through the
Afghan checkposts.

"The Americans pay us money and we give them Al Qaeda," he says
with a smile. "The Al Qaeda give us money and we give them shelter.
Nowadays we are not giving them shelter because of the US troops
here, but up there on the border, they are there right now up in the
forests. They come and go and nobody stops them."

Even some border security officials admit that it would be easy for Al
Qaeda to enter Kunar Province. "This is a long border, and we don't
have enough forces to patrol it," says Wazir Mohammad Sadiq, deputy
commander of checkpoints for the Kunar Border Security Force. "We
need the Americans there. They only come once a month, and they
never stay long. They just have a cup of tea, chat, and leave."

Haji Said Amin Khan, commander of a checkpost on the border, says
that his men used to stop every car coming from Pakistan, but was
ordered to stop this practice by Commander Jandad, the former
governor of Kunar.

"We were told not to stop certain people, like armed men, and even
now, people can come and go without questions," says Mr. Khan.

"But the problem is that we need thousands of men to patrol the
border in Kunar. There are four main roads into Kunar, and we have
checkposts on those roads, but there are lots of other smaller roads.
Al Qaeda is not stupid enough to come on the main roads, so they
take the other roads."

Commander Zaman, the military chief, says that his men are
preparing for a long war against Al Qaeda, even if they have to
continue fighting without any salaries or coordination with US forces.

"You can't defeat an ideology with a gun, so the best we can do is
create a new ideology, and make people feel that we are making the
situation better than before," he says. "If that works, that's great. But
if not, then we already have our enemy and their guns here among
us."

Afghan plea to US: 'Listen to us'

The vehicle was full of armed men who could have been friends, foes,
or just another group of Afghan men out for a ride.

But what is certain is that when the vehicle encountered a checkpoint
manned by US special forces soldiers on Tuesday night, a gunbattle
broke out. US forces say one of the Afghans aimed his Kalashnikov at
a US soldier and pulled the trigger. The Afghan's gun jammed, but US
soldiers opened fire, killing all four of the Afghan fighters. None of the
American soldiers was injured.

But the slain Afghans were friends, not foes. They were soldiers
working for the Afghan military chief, the sons of a prominent tribal
leader, and should never have been told by US soldiers to disarm, say
local military commanders.

Even before the gunfight, tempers in Asadabad were on edge. On
Monday, soldiers killed two men who fired at them from a hilltop.

And for the past two weeks, US special forces have been conducting
house-to-house searches in this dusty frontier capital of Kunar
Province near the Pakistan border, looking for heavy weapons and Al
Qaeda supporters. According to top Afghan leaders here, the invasive
procedures violate strong Pashtun traditions, which forbid outsiders to
enter their homes and see their women.

Afghan merchants, political leaders, and military commanders say
that local sentiments are turning sharply against the US forces here.

"So far the relationship with US forces here is just neutral, neither
positive nor negative, but it's going in the negative direction," says
Acting Gov. Haji Ali Rahman. "We hope the US forces will use their
cleverness and change their tactics. But if they continue to search
houses, even my own commanders will not work for me."

He smiles through his long grey beard. "The first revolt of the villagers
will be against us, because we are the ones who brought the US forces
here."

Public anger over the house searches has grown so much that
Governor Rahman called an emergency meeting of tribal elders this
week in Asadabad, where dozens of Pashtun leaders vented their
anger at the Americans. Some leaders called for Afghan forces to stop
cooperating with the US forces. This idea was quickly squelched, when
the Afghan military chief of the province, Brig. Mohammad Zaman,
pointed out that his troops – including the four men killed on Tuesday
night – haven't even been asked to conduct joint operations with US
forces in anti-Al Qaeda operations.

"Right now they are working with just one warlord, and they aren't
getting any results except angering the people," says Brigadier
Zaman. "They don't have to pay us, we will fight with our own guns,
our own rations. But at least they should listen to us."

Instead, the US forces are working with Commander Zarin, a local
warlord who was the first Afghan leader to help the US forces in Kunar
Province in the buildup to the fall of the Taliban last November. US
military spokesmen at Bagram airfield in Kabul say it is up to local US
commanders to decide who to work with, and in many cases the US
special forces continue to work with a local warlord they know rather
than with leaders deployed by the Kabul government.

"This is a common statement that you hear from local military chiefs,
'Why aren't you working with us?'" says Lt. Col. Roger King,
spokesman for the US military at Bagram. "In some cases, our forces
have been working with local commanders, or warlords, long before
the Ministry of Defense in Kabul was formed. We're in a transitional
phase, and you may see some of that coordination shifting over to
more official channels."

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