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1 posted on 12/24/2005 2:49:39 AM PST by F14 Pilot
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Carter sold out Iran big time


2 posted on 12/24/2005 2:51:12 AM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot; All

From the Vault of Memory:

Recalling the Shah of Iran-
various links | 8-18-02 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/735176/posts




One of the most telling things I ever saw was a Jeff McNelly cartoon:

The Ayatollah driving an ox-cart over a hill...
... the sign beside the road read:

"Leaving 20th Century
Please Dim Lights..."


6 posted on 12/24/2005 3:08:09 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: F14 Pilot

That last line is a stinger. Perhaps Jimmy should go make peace.


7 posted on 12/24/2005 3:17:22 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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To: F14 Pilot

bump


8 posted on 12/24/2005 3:18:47 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (.)
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To: F14 Pilot
Carter, then Clinton. They are the sole Presidents who sold their country out. Carter did it for utopian social justice. Clinton did it for Clinton. From the look of potential 'rat presidential nominees I'd say it is still quite unsafe to put another one in office. I shudder to think where an algore or effin' kerry would have taken our country these past five years.
10 posted on 12/24/2005 3:23:00 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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Carter and Communism.... Kinda just fits together like a hammer and sickle. I fear the damage done by Billy Jeff and Shrillery will be found much worse!


Kill A Commie For Mommie

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11 posted on 12/24/2005 3:31:18 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("As long as I have my health,,,,,,,,my millions of dollars, gold house, and rocket car." CJ Lampwick)
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Carter--one of the worst if not the worst, Presidents ever in the history of the Untied States.


12 posted on 12/24/2005 3:36:26 AM PST by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
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According to the Jimmy Carter Library & Museum's web site (http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/jec/cabinet.phtml), the following were members of President James Earl Carter, Jr.'s administration.

Cabinet Members

* Secretary of State:

Jan. 23, 1977-Apr. 20, 1980 Cyrus R. Vance
May 8, 1980-Jan. 20, 1981 Edmund S. Muskie

* Secretary of the Treasury

Jan. 23, 1977-Jul. 19, 1979 W. Michael Blumenthal
Aug. 6, 1979-Jan. 20, 1981 G. William Miller

* Secretary of Defense

Jan. 21, 1977-Jan. 20, 1981 Harold Brown

* Attorney General

Jan. 26, 1977-Jul. 19, 1979 Griffin B. Bell
Aug. 16, 1979-Jan. 20, 1981 Benjamin R. Civiletti

* Secretary of the Interior

Jan. 23, 1977-Jan. 20, 1981 Cecil D. Andrus

* Secretary of Agriculture

Jan. 23, 1977-Jan. 20, 1981 Bob S. Bergland

* Secretary of Commerce

Jan. 23, 1977-Oct. 4, 1979 Juanita Morris Kreps
Jan. 9, 1980-Jan. 20, 1981 Philip Klutznic

* Secretary of Labor

Jan. 27, 1977-Jan. 20, 1981 Ray Marshall

* Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare

Jan. 25, 1977-Jul 19, 1979 Josepha A. Califano, Jr.

* Secretary of Health and Human Services

Aug. 3, 1979-Jan. 20, 1981 Patricia Roberts Harris

* Secretary of Housing and Urban Development

Jan. 23, 1977-Aug. 3, 1979 Patricia Roberts Harris

* Sep. 24, 1979-Jan. 20, 1981 Moon Landrieu

* Secretary of Transportation

Jan. 23, 1977-Jul. 20, 1979 Brock Adams
Sep. 24, 1979-Jan. 20, 1981 Neil Goldschmidt

* Secretary of Energy

Aug. 5, 1977-Jul. 20, 1979 James R. Schlesinger
Aug. 24, 1979-Jan. 20, 1981 Charles W. Duncan, Jr.

* Secretary of Education

Dec. 6, 1979-Jan. 20, 1981 Shirley Mount Hufstedler

* U. S. Representative to the United Nations

Jan. 30, 1977-Aug. 15, 1979 Andrew J. Young

* Sep. 23, 1979-Jan. 20, 1981 Donald F. McHenry

* Director, Office of Management and Budget

Jan. 23, 1977-Sep 21, 1977 Thomas Bertram Lance (Bert Lance)
Mar. 24, 1978-Jan.20, 1981 James T. McIntyre, Jr.

* Chairman, Council of Economic Advisors

Jan. 23, 1977-Jan. 20, 1981 Charles L. Schultze

* Advisor to the President on National Security Affairs

Jan. 23, 1977-Jan. 20, 1981 Zbigniew Brzezinski


13 posted on 12/24/2005 3:41:08 AM PST by G.Mason (Others have died for my freedom; now this is my mark ... Marine Corporal Jeffrey Starr, KIA 04-30-05)
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To: F14 Pilot

Of course, Carter not only made a Reagan presidency possible, he made it necessary.


16 posted on 12/24/2005 3:52:08 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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Even if Carter stood solidly behing the Shah then how could he have kept him in power? The man had no support among his own people.


17 posted on 12/24/2005 3:54:58 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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My take on it was that Jimmy was for anything with "People's" in it.


19 posted on 12/24/2005 4:11:18 AM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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Interesting.

JV - pinging for your files.


20 posted on 12/24/2005 4:20:02 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (MERRRY CHRISTMAS - GOD BLESS US EVERYONE!)
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Thank God Jimmie Carter wasn't allowed to implement all his whacko policies. Can anyone imagine if Carter and his fellow Democrats, which contolled both houses of Congress at that time, actually got along and worked as one during his administration? The amount of devastation to this country would have been freightening, if we could have survived at all.


24 posted on 12/24/2005 4:47:02 AM PST by moonman
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Some other things which happened under the Carter Presidency include: a.) shutting down state hospitals for the insane as cruel and unusual punishment and releasing a lot of them unto the streets. b.) instituting law libraries in all state and federal prisons. I worked at one during this time, and suddenly all the inmates wanted to become their own lawyers and file appeals and they had the right now to go to these libraries anytime but lockdown time. What a security mess that became.


25 posted on 12/24/2005 4:55:44 AM PST by moonman
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Being a child can be useful sometimes. I don't remember any of this stuff, although it doesn't surprise me. Carter is an idiot.


28 posted on 12/24/2005 5:12:43 AM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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Yet another reason to dislike Carter.

I remember this period of time well. There was a group of bearded Iranian 'students' who would trudge past our business in downtown Houston. When ever I drove past them I would roll down the car window and yell "down with the Shah" and they would start yelling and waving their fists around. I didn't realize Carter was behind it.
29 posted on 12/24/2005 5:22:26 AM PST by Ditter
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As if a light were switched off, the Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlevi, portrayed for 20 years as a progressive modern ruler by Islamic standards, was suddenly, in 1977-1978, turned into this foaming at the mouth monster by the international left media.

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Carter didn't throw the Shah out. The leftist press didn't throw the shah out. The iranians who were tired of his gestapo threw him out and it didn't happen in one day or without some of them being tortured and killed.

If the shah was beloved by iranians nothing Carter or anybody else said or did could have forced them to take to the streets in the face of his SAVAK. Unless of course the iranians are witless, spineless people who can't think for themselves. I don't think they are but is that what you're suggesting? What other possible explanation could there be for them to risk death to rid themselves of your beloved?

36 posted on 12/24/2005 5:57:36 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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Carter deserves a rope. Not a noose. That would be too quick.


49 posted on 12/24/2005 6:22:49 AM PST by metalurgist (Death to the democrats! They're almost the same as communists, they just move a little slower.)
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bttt


61 posted on 12/24/2005 6:37:24 AM PST by Guenevere
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He not only sold out Iran, he set us on the path that culminated in 9/11. The Shah (and other experts on fundamentalist islam) told Carter that if Iran fell to the Fundamentalist it would cause serious and long term problems for the Middle East. Imagine Iraq today if Iran were an American ally. There would never have been an Iraq/Iran war, and invading Iraq might not have been necessary. We are still paying the price for Carters incredible inability to govern or think beyond the moment. How we survived this monumentaly stupid man is beyond comprehension. He is without a doubt the worst president we will ever have.


74 posted on 12/24/2005 7:49:35 AM PST by Casloy
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