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1 posted on 12/21/2005 8:28:49 AM PST by Pikamax
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"We should leave this debate to historians."

Well, Jesse, since you are a historian, why are you debating this.

It's a damn shame that irony is lost on the modern liberal.

2 posted on 12/21/2005 8:29:55 AM PST by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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But as director of the group founded by the father of Black History Month, Carter G. Woodson, Cyrus-Albritton says she has an important message for Freeman: "We're not there yet, Morgan."

They're not there because they won't allow themselves to attain that which they claim to seek. Even the militant radicals of the 60s understood the trap of the victim mentality, something lost on the current activists who would rather repress a whole class of people for their own gain and satisfaction. That's why they are all Dims - the hell with those they purport to represent, they want theirs no matter the cost to everyone else.

3 posted on 12/21/2005 8:32:51 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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The segment was great. Mike asked Morgan "Why are you against Black History Month?" Morgan said "Do you want a White History Month?" Mike said "I'm Jewish." Morgan said "Do you want a Jewish History Month?" Mike said "Well, of course not." Morgan said "Neither do I."
4 posted on 12/21/2005 8:33:30 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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I just love in-fighting! Jesse can't stand it when those on his "plantation" don't toe the line!


5 posted on 12/21/2005 8:34:06 AM PST by mlc9852
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Mr. Freeman and the rest of us must always remember that the past oppression of blacks must never be forgotten or forgiven. There is nothing we or anyone can ever do to atone for this. The only solution to the problem of race is to constantly remind all and sundry how wronged they were (if they are black) and how bigoted and ignorant they are (if they are not black). There are too many jobs, too much power and too much money at stake to allow anything else.


6 posted on 12/21/2005 8:35:28 AM PST by scory
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Translation:

You may have "yours" because you have all you want, but we don't have everything we can milk from the downtrodden yet.


7 posted on 12/21/2005 8:35:31 AM PST by billhilly (Demo camo is yellow and white)
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All the "history" taught during "Black History Month" is at worst racist, at best wrenched from any useful context and generally fraudulent.

How about making every year "American History Year"?

8 posted on 12/21/2005 8:35:46 AM PST by wideawake
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It was a response echoed by many civil rights leaders and historians across the country yesterday after Freeman's statements

I must have missed something since I started my education a long time ago.

Single-note, single-purpose activists now call themselves "historians"? I will assume that is intended to persuade the ignorant that there is greater credibility involved?

Morgan Freeman is my hero. Up until this attack on him exploded, I'd forgotten he is Black. I wonder why?

10 posted on 12/21/2005 8:36:11 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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...I have a lot of respect for him as an actor, but [the] actor makes a statement, an observation. He is not a historian.

And the "(most) reverend...(way more reverend than you or I)...Jesse Jackson is a historian? I guess the racist left finally found an actor whose comments do no warrant attention?

11 posted on 12/21/2005 8:36:57 AM PST by yooling (I don't have anything nice to say...)
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I keep hoping Ann Coulter will write a book about the history of the Democrats in regard to their views on race. You can go back 150 years and see everything the Dems have said, and everything they have done, and it's all - ALL - based on the idea that blacks are less good than whites.

From what I see, the Republicans want people to be seen as people, with no weight given to the color of anyone's skin. But the Democrats see everything in terms of color and have one opinion about how to treat blacks and a different opinion about how to treat whites.

Why blacks vote for a racist party with 150 years of race-baiting history is beyond me.


14 posted on 12/21/2005 8:39:05 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Ut oh...Morgan Freeman is expressing free thought! NO!!!!!


15 posted on 12/21/2005 8:39:38 AM PST by xrp (Conservative votes are to Republicans what 90% of black votes are to Democrats (taken for granted))
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""We're not there yet, Morgan."

Because there is no there. What passes for modern day civil rights is black identity politics and race mongering. It's not about gaining equality it's about institutionalizing racial advantage, manipulating discontent and exacerbating perceived slights..

One has to look no further than New Orleans to see how the race game is played today.

16 posted on 12/21/2005 8:40:34 AM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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"I have a lot of respect for him as an actor, but [the] actor makes a statement, an observation. He is not a historian. He is projecting an idealism. We should leave this debate to historians"

Gotta love it. As long as the 'Celebrities' are mouthing the Lib Party line every syllable is precious wisdom. Let one stray off the reservation and their words are their own opinions, not to be in any way confused with the 'Truth'. The hypocrisy is amusing to say the least.

19 posted on 12/21/2005 8:42:37 AM PST by TCats
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Some blacks take Freeman to task over CBS interview

Some whites think some blacks should get a life.

20 posted on 12/21/2005 8:43:50 AM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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In Jackson's world "they" will never "be there". Because the very instant that happens ol' Jesse will have to get a real job and stop living off of the sweat of others.


22 posted on 12/21/2005 8:46:18 AM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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The point Morgan Freeman was making was that every month should be black history month, in the sense that black history should be woven into the fabric of American history. Black history should be studied just as the rest of American history should be studied. Not as victim history, not as the history of oppression, but as an interesting and valuable contribution to America. Mr. Freeman sees clearly.


23 posted on 12/21/2005 8:48:12 AM PST by Capriole (I don't have any problems that can't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition.)
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"... He is not a historian...."

Hey je$$e, neither are you.

"...We should leave this debate to historians...."

Exactamundo! Leave that to the professional historians. You, je$$e, are a rank ameture. Sit down and STFU!


24 posted on 12/21/2005 8:49:04 AM PST by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ERADICATED ASAP)
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"But as director of the group founded by the father of Black History Month, Carter G. Woodson, Cyrus-Albritton says she has an important message for Freeman: "We're not there yet, Morgan."

It was a response echoed by many civil rights leaders and historians across the country yesterday.."

Of course. The racialists like these social parasites and the Jessie Jecksons, "Reverend" Sharpeton, etc. will NEVER be there.

They'll never be there because if they ever are, it means the end of the gravey train of special benefits, contributions, fame (=notoriety), and filthy lucre they and their corrupt organizations reap as result of the collective guilt of naive and stupid white people.

Having a "Black History" month makes as much sense as an "Italian History Month" or an "Irish History Month" or a "Muslim History Month (shudder)".

This is America. We're all Americans. And the sooner we stop categorizing ourselves into separate governmentally inspired ethnic categories, the better off we will all be.

And I think that was Morgan Freeman's intent - and he's right.

As for these social parasites - take a long walk off a short pier, and carry your hatred, hypocracy, greed, and bags of imposed guilt with you.


25 posted on 12/21/2005 8:49:20 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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Maybe it's a sign of progress that even some "African American's" are getting tired of the continual whining of self-appointed "victims".

Everybody (black and white) as a general principle should just shut up and get over everything. I know it's a good principle in my own personal life. Blaming anyone for your problems solves NOTHING.

Can't we all just move on?


27 posted on 12/21/2005 8:50:21 AM PST by garyhope (.)
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I would venture to say that Morgan Freeman knows how far we have come over the past 50-60 years in race relations. Probably as much or more than Jesse Jackson. Mr Freeman was born and raised in the Mississippi Delta, the home of the worst racism in the 19th & and first 3/4 of 20th century. He by the nature of his trade lived and worked for many years in Hollywood, the home of the probably the worst racism in the last half of the 20th centuury and the first years of the 21st.
Mr Freeman now chooses to live in Clarksdale, Mississippi at a time in his life that he can live anywhere on this earth. Yeah, I think he does know from where he speaks.
30 posted on 12/21/2005 8:51:18 AM PST by Long Distance Rider
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