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Robert Novak says President Knows Identity of Leaker
News Observer via Economics Briefing ^ | December 14, 2005

Posted on 12/14/2005 8:59:37 AM PST by toaster

Newspaper columnist Robert Novak is still not naming his source in the Valerie Plame affair, but he says he is pretty sure the name is no mystery to President Bush.

"I'm confident the president knows who the source is,"...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; cialeak; novak; novakisatool
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Colin Powell


81 posted on 12/14/2005 1:49:10 PM PST by Liberty Valance ("Can't hide Freedom's song." ~ Starwise)
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To: talleyman

Because he revealed his sources. That's the only logical conclusion.


82 posted on 12/14/2005 1:49:54 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes,you should be concerned about that. By"in the government" I meant that she was a CIA operative hence "in the government" it doesn't matter who leaked the info. I just think "the government" should be able to explain what happened to the American public flat out. However they could'nt. Why?


83 posted on 12/14/2005 1:50:27 PM PST by RambozoDClown
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To: RambozoDClown
Victoria Toensing, the attorney who wrote the covert agent law, has stated the following in The Plame Game: Was This a Crime?:

When the act was passed, Congress had no intention of prosecuting a reporter who wanted to expose wrongdoing and, in the process, once or twice published the name of a covert agent. Novak is safe from indictment. But Congress also did not intend for government employees to be vulnerable to prosecution for an unintentional or careless spilling of the beans about an undercover identity. A dauntingly high standard was therefore required for the prosecutor to charge the leaker.

At the threshold, the agent must truly be covert. Her status as undercover must be classified, and she must have been assigned to duty outside the United States currently or in the past five years. This requirement does not mean jetting to Berlin or Taipei for a week's work. It means permanent assignment in a foreign country. Since Plame had been living in Washington for some time when the July 2003 column was published, and was working at a desk job in Langley (a no-no for a person with a need for cover), there is a serious legal question as to whether she qualifies as "covert."

I repeat my question: If you are so concerned about a breech of security, why aren't you concerned about Joe Wilson's blabbing all over Washington that his wife was a CIA operative?

84 posted on 12/14/2005 2:29:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: Fruitbat

"What if we're "pretty sure" that he doesn't? Then what? Stale mate? LOL"


I think it's reasonable to assume the President does know. How could he not? We don't know but I have to assume that given how many people do know the President would have needed to know and would have found out. How does this change anything or mean anything?


85 posted on 12/14/2005 2:52:38 PM PST by Bogeygolfer
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To: toaster; All

Looks like all that money Ted Turner gave him all those years was down payment on this trouble-making, Democrat-MSM-aiding crap.. I guess him getting his a$$ handed to him every afternoon by Begala and Carville service enough to liberal interests... he felt compelled to do this. He is a nefarious POS-- always has been.


86 posted on 12/14/2005 3:44:32 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: RambozoDClown

It's not an issue of national security if a covert agent was not outed. A covert agent was not outed. Plame was not covert. Hence, no crime. Hence, this whole investigation is built on a house of cards. You can't cover up a crime that was never commited.


87 posted on 12/14/2005 3:57:10 PM PST by Purrcival (Hooray for the Iraqi Voter!)
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To: RambozoDClown

Oh! Okay.


88 posted on 12/14/2005 4:18:16 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: toaster

Check out the link for this post. It was posted this morning at 8:35AM.

Since then, there have been 0 Comments

Hey Bob, nobody cares what you have to say. LOL


89 posted on 12/14/2005 4:46:42 PM PST by UglyinLA
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To: toaster

Is Novak trying out for a Chris Matthews House "Conservative" job at MSDNC??


90 posted on 12/14/2005 4:49:14 PM PST by Rosemont
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
This whole issue is starting to sound like "Who's on First?"

For the Dems, it's "Who's on Frist?"

91 posted on 12/14/2005 5:36:53 PM PST by paulat
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To: RambozoDClown; CasearianDaoist; headsonpikes; beyond the sea; E.G.C.; Military family member; ...
I notice your homepage features the Eisenhower "military-industiral complex" quote.

IMHO history, if not historians, has not borne out that warning. Certainly there is danger there, of course - but historically the greater danger has been an antidemocratic, antirepublican Establishment which presumes to say, not merely that the pen is mightier than the sword, but that the sword is irrelevant. Which is countered by a quote from memory, source unknown: "We must respect our plumbers and our philosophers, or else neither our pipes nor our theories will hold water."

That Establishment is variously pleased to call itself "objective journalism" and "the Democratic Party." Inasmuch as its foundational premise is that "the masses" have no will apart from the sway of propaganda, it is the furthest thing from democratic. And in promoting the fatuous conceit of its own objectivity while promoting its own material and moral interests, it is the furthest thing from objective.

Why Broadcast Journalism is
Unnecessary and Illegitimate


92 posted on 12/14/2005 5:47:53 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: RambozoDClown; CasearianDaoist; headsonpikes; beyond the sea; E.G.C.; Military family member; ...
John W. Gardner, a Los Angeles native, fought hard throughout his life to convince people that a quality education meant encouraging excellence in whatever students wished to pursue. “An excellent plumber is infinitely more admirable than an incompetent philosopher. The society that scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is an exalted activity will neither have good plumbing or good philosophy. Neither its pipes or its theories will hold water.”

SOURCE


93 posted on 12/14/2005 6:04:44 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: easymoney
I think it's reasonable to assume the President does know. How could he not? We don't know but I have to assume that given how many people do know the President would have needed to know and would have found out. How does this change anything or mean anything?

Just a light comment. The author said "pretty sure." Given the media bias, who knows. And no, I'm not sure the President does necessarily know. Maybe that's a naive viewpoint/opinion.

94 posted on 12/14/2005 6:19:08 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: ConservativeGreek

Then if she was not covert - there is no problem with this whole mess.

Like I said - this was a setup to get Bush's administration.

And, the press does not get a free ride to print anything they wish no matter what it reveals. If Kovak is not in trouble, if Mr. Wilson is not in trouble - then drop the whole thing. Apparently there is not much danger to anyone if only the one giving the info is guilty and the reporter is free to print it no matter how top secret the info is.

Just because something is told to a media person does not mean they are free of responsibility of leaks and only the ones giving the information are guilty. Does not make sense.

If no one cares what the press prints - then there is no crime in revealing confidential information to the press. Both are guilty if there are leaks.


95 posted on 12/14/2005 8:01:22 PM PST by ClancyJ (God give us the strength to fight the liberal onslaught against our President and our country.)
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To: toaster

Sounds as though old R is getting just a wee bit testy over this.


96 posted on 12/14/2005 8:03:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: toaster

My thinking cap is on.---Let's see---Could it be:
COLON POWELL??????


97 posted on 12/14/2005 8:07:12 PM PST by joanofarc
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To: ConservativeGreek
I believe Novak registered as a Democrat in 1991 so he could vote for Bill Clinton. I despise the way he drops little hints and innuendos rather than stating a fact. He allegedly was the first reporter to identify Plame as a CIA agent, and yet, we hear nothing about him having to appear before the Grand Jury. I wish he would just shut up and quit speculating!
98 posted on 12/14/2005 8:40:30 PM PST by PeskyOne
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To: jpl
Novak is one of the very few guys in the media who's even close to being a straight shooter.

And he hasn't revealed his source yet because...

99 posted on 12/14/2005 8:43:24 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: All
Maybe Novak meant the President jnew who the source was, as in "personally knows him" like maybe his father.

Is it possible that the former CIA President Bush is involved in this whole mess somehow? He did praise Joe Wilson for what he did following the Iraq invasion of Kuwait. Who's to say that Daddy Bush and Joe didn't become friends or that Daddy Bush wasn't introduced to Plame because of his status as former Director of the CIA.

The following little paragraph makes you wonder just what is going on here??

BUSH VISITS PEPSI-COLA MAHMOUD SAID PLANT MIDDLE EAST NEWS ITEMS November 17, 1999

LENGTH: 98 words HEADLINE: BUSH VISITS PEPSI-COLA MAHMOUD SAID PLANT

BODY: According to Al-Jazirah newspaper (November 16, 1999), on October 26, Mr. Marvin Bush, son of the former American President George Bush, who is also a board member of the Winston Partners Company, visited the Saudi fruit juice and beverage plant (Pepsi-Cola Mahmoud Said) at the Jeddah Industrial Estate. Accompanied by Mr. Elias Abu Rdein, director general of the American Rock Creek Corporation, Mr. Bush met with the deputy chairman of the board of the Pepsi-Cola Mahmoud Said Company, Sheikh Abdulk-Khalek Said, and the director general of the Company, Mr. Tayseer Tamleya.

LOAD-DATE: November 17, 1999

So, the son we know nothing about is traveling with someone who works with Joe Wilson at Rock Creek Corp??

SBD
100 posted on 12/14/2005 10:43:18 PM PST by SBD1
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