Posted on 12/05/2005 1:46:44 PM PST by twinself
Russia has struck a deal to provide Iran with short-range, surface-to-air missiles, Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said Monday. He defended the deal, saying that the weapons system was purely defensive.
Russian media reported Friday that Russian and Iranian officials had signed various weapons contracts in November worth a billion dollars (?850 million) that would send up to 30 Tor-M1 missile systems to Iran over the next two years.
''A contract for the delivery of air defense Tor missile systems to Iran has indeed been signed,'' Ivanov said in comments broadcast by the state channel Rossiya, without giving further details.
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"Palestine is the wrong name for their State. It should be called Anarchy."FReeper sgtbono2002
"Then let's wait and see what the Arabs do after they take Gaza. There's nothing like Arab reality to break up a Jewish fantasy."FReeper Noachian
A student told his professor he was going to "Palestine" to "fight for freedom, peace and justice,"Orwellian leftist code words that mean "murder Jews."
The Nature Of Bruce ~
It appears the Greeks aquired the Tor-M1 a few years ago:
http://www.aviation.ru/www.rusarm.ru/video/9K331_Tor-M1.wmv
A great movie. :-)
"I'm amazed Russia can sell any weapons as their equipment was totally ineffective for Iraq."
I dunno, RPG7s, AK47s, and 88mm Anti-tanks shells seem to be mighty effective in the hands of the insurgents.
BTTT
Hmmm. It appeared from news over the past year or so that Russia and Iran were happy with their Caspian energy agreements and oil and gas pipeline deals. Russia needed more routes to the south.
Adding to post no. 52 (re Russia):
http://www.newsmax.com/pundits/archives/Charles_R._Smith-archive.shtml
http://www.inatoday.com
If these weapons are used, the world could be thrown into a larger war if the state(s) Iran uses these against are already in dire political straights with Russia over the sale to start with. The agrieved states that come immediately to mind are Israel and the USA. Russia, France, Germany, Italy and Brazil should all be wary of their actions supporting Iran should this Islamic State use these weapons....
Couple of quibbles (minor). Not sure at all that the US will even attempt to do anything about/to Iran **until** they pop a nuke; it's hard to see where the US gains from pre-empting the mullahs, and the antiAmerican Left would go even more berserk than they have done to date. I hope I'm wrong in this, very wrong, but it appears to me that the only trigger event for taking down the mullahs will be the loss of an American city.
And, just in the interest of getting hard facts accurate, the Russian sovereign default occurred in 1998, late July or early August, not 1997. Can get the precise date for you if you want. It was one of the final nails in LTCM's coffin. I had spent the entire previous 3 months trying to get assorted banks to take the other side of a VKO-rouble arbitrage that was a stone lock...alas, to no avail. Didn't make a penny from one of the most obvious bond plays in history (sigh).
Good catch. I was about to type "Asian Currency Crisis of 1997 led to Russian default in 1998" but edited for brevity in error.
(Though I'm still baffled by that Mexican Peso bailout backstory back then)
Without the central third of the US,the rest of the country would elect commies.
Bulls-eye.
''A contract for the delivery of air defense Tor missile systems to Iran has indeed been signed,''
Immediately following the announcement, the Pentagon issued this statement:
"A contract for the delivery of shoulder fired surface to air missiles to Chechnya has indeed been signed," Rumsfeld said in comments broadcast by Fox news, without giving further details. (wish)
Thanks for the ping!
China will be an ally... I can't see what benefit they can gain from working with Iran.
"Sounds like the plotline for the movie "Red Dawn" for a couple of decades ago"
I've had the same thoughts for some time now. Wish I could remember how the movie ended.
Here's the connection.
The service of press of the official agency Rossoboronexport in charge of Russian exports of weapons, joined by AFP, affirmed that it "did not have information" in connection with this contract.
The contract "will not violate any international engagement of Russia", because Moscow had left in 2000 a secret agreement with Washington known under the name of
Apparently that horrible school bombing/killing earlier this year wasn't enough proof to the Russians that terrorists live in Russia.
I don't know what will wake up the rest of the world but the Russians appear to be desperate for the money and they'll sell their own country off to get it.
Meanwhile...this hardly helps us since we have many troops in the middle east. It would only take one missile armed with nuclear material to make a dirty bomb. The Russkis ought to be hogwhipped for this. The Iranians could use those SAMs to bring down Israeli or American fighters in a heartbeat.
God help us all.
http://www.biblestudy.org/prophecy/ezekww3.html
Interesting interpretation about that here. Have a look see.
Russia never really was our friend
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