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Catholic Schools Not Worthy of All The Type
republicanresearch.com ^ | Dec 2, 2005 | David Koziatek

Posted on 12/02/2005 9:56:14 AM PST by David9493A

The school is not the main reason why children succeed academically, it is more the child's parents


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: catholicschools; education
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1 posted on 12/02/2005 9:56:14 AM PST by David9493A
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To: David9493A
Let's see:

Catholic schools encourage parents to take an active role in their children's education.

Public schools actively fight to deny parents any role in shaping the values and goals of their children's education.

So it obviously is the schools: Catholic schools as institutions promote better values and a better educational system than public schools do.

2 posted on 12/02/2005 9:58:26 AM PST by wideawake
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To: David9493A

The parents care enough to pay for their childs education, so the parents are involved already.


3 posted on 12/02/2005 9:59:07 AM PST by MarineBrat (Islam/Borg - The only difference is the stolen technology level.)
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To: David9493A
All The Type

Does the title need to be changed to 'Hype'?

4 posted on 12/02/2005 10:00:19 AM PST by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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To: wideawake
Public schools actively fight to deny parents any role in shaping the values and goals of their children's education.

Not true of all public schools. Ours encourages parental participation and visitation.

But public, private or "home school", parents are key to a child's learning.

5 posted on 12/02/2005 10:01:35 AM PST by razorgirl
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To: David9493A
Catholic schools have the luxury of being able to expel any kid they want...no questions asked.Try expelling a kid from a public school and you've got a dozen Johnnie Chochranes, and "civil rights" advocates,storming the front door.
6 posted on 12/02/2005 10:02:07 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: David9493A

This post was a waste of time. I am the dumber for having read it. At no point in your post was there anything even resembling a coherant argument.


7 posted on 12/02/2005 10:04:07 AM PST by jude24 ("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Public schools don't expel problem students. They put them in special ed classes to get them out of the regular classroom. yet the kids in the regular classroom continue to underperform Catholic school kids, even though more moeny is spent on those regular classrooms.


8 posted on 12/02/2005 10:04:59 AM PST by wideawake
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To: jude24

"I married common street trash."


9 posted on 12/02/2005 10:05:33 AM PST by wideawake
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To: David9493A

Welcome to Free Republic!


10 posted on 12/02/2005 10:06:51 AM PST by hc87
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To: wideawake
Catholic schools encourage parents to take an active role in their children's education.

LOL, encourage? Yes, indeed. Not only that, they expect it.

11 posted on 12/02/2005 10:06:54 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: wideawake

"Business ethics."


12 posted on 12/02/2005 10:07:01 AM PST by jude24 ("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
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To: David9493A

This is nothing more than a continuation of the attempt to shift blame for failing schools to anywhere but where it belongs. My first child went to public school (believe me I did not realize what a mistake I was making)and the outcome was not at all good. The next 3 went to Catholic schools and all have college degrees, two have advanced degrees, and all are living in ways that make me proud.


13 posted on 12/02/2005 10:07:33 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: David9493A

I spent 16 years in Catholic schools. My son was in Catholic schools for 9 years. I will acknowledge that his departure wasn't voluntary, so that all cards are on the table. But I have come to the conclusion that, all too often, "Catholic" schools are just expensive private schools with a Crucifix out front. They are not what they once were and that's too bad.

When the assistant principal told my son that they "expected better from a student who was receiving financial aid", that was my "screw you" moment.


14 posted on 12/02/2005 10:08:23 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: David9493A
From the article:

And here is the truth: Catholic schools don’t always have the best teachers and certainly don’t have the best facilities; and public schools don’t have the worst teachers and almost always have the best facilities; yet, students in catholic and other private schools do better than students in public schools.

15 posted on 12/02/2005 10:15:54 AM PST by rit
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To: wideawake; David9493A
Plus, the Catholic Schools are much more likely to stick with a curriculum that works instead of dumping it for the latest education fad that comes down the pike.
16 posted on 12/02/2005 10:20:56 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: David9493A

Parents alone cannot countermand all the poor effects of a curriculum laden with PC moral relativist drivel and lacking completely some fundamental subject facts or teaching outright incorrect information to avoid offending some group or another......

Parents cannot overcome the message conveyed to kids in schools where children are socially promoted and where sucesss is measured by how good their peers feel about themselves, not by what they have mastered...

and today, despite the calls for more good people to teach, kids are too often taught by by diversity/nepotism employees who are supervised by even more highly-paid diversity/nepotism hires.


17 posted on 12/02/2005 10:55:20 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

I stuck out four years of Catholic school, and agree with you wholeheartedly. My school didn't even pretend to care about the concerns of students or parents, unless they contributed a healthy sum to the church. I think a lot of people on Free Republic idealize Catholic schools, but they're not automatically superior.


18 posted on 12/02/2005 11:00:10 AM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: David9493A

The answer is simple. Become Catholic and see your kids grades improve. = Ain't logic grand.


19 posted on 12/02/2005 11:01:39 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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To: Ace of Spades

One thing I noticed, too, was that they were much more interested in having non-Catholic students who pay full tuition than in Catholic students who are subsidized.


20 posted on 12/02/2005 11:03:31 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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