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Atheists File Suit Against UHP Memorial Crosses
ABC 4 in Utah ^ | 12/1/2005 | ABC 4

Posted on 12/01/2005 7:13:41 AM PST by Andyman

A lawsuit against memorial crosses is set to be filed Thursday by a group that feels they violate the separation of church and state.

Three Utah atheists, backed by a national organization based in Texas, are filing suit against the state for allowing crosses to be erected in honor of highway patrol troopers, who have died in the line of duty.

Richard Andrews said, "I feel the same way a Jew might feel if you put a state symbol on a swastika"

According to the UHP Association, a support group for troopers and their families, many fallen troopers' relatives consider the memorial crosses just as important as the tombstones that mark their graves.

Sgt. Todd Royce of the UHP Association told ABC 4 News, "It's a sense of pride, I think. It's a... kind of a sacred feeling."

The atheists suggest the association could honor the troopers with a non-denominational symbol.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: atheistagenda; athiests; cross; lawsuit; memorials; moralabsolutes; purge; secularjihad
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To: Andyman

"Richard Andrews said, 'I feel the same way a Jew might feel if you put a state symbol on a swastika'"

Since he presumably hasn't killed anyone yet, Andrews has no idea how a Jew might feel under those circumstances. By word order, this jackass is equating the memorial with a swastika and the crosses with a state symbol. He isn't even trying to make sense. Some leftard Vietcong professor probably told him that lurid analogies would get media play and that appears to be all he knows. It's just more deranged hyperbole from the Left and more proof that they're out of ideas.


21 posted on 12/01/2005 7:23:41 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: atomicpossum

Just wait. Its coming.


22 posted on 12/01/2005 7:24:16 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Semper Paratus

That is EXACTLY what I was thinking!


23 posted on 12/01/2005 7:24:34 AM PST by Andyman (Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.)
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To: Andyman
"Three Utah atheists, backed by a national organization based in Texas, are filing suit against the state for allowing crosses to be erected in honor of highway patrol troopers, who have died in the line of duty.

Richard Andrews said, "I feel the same way a Jew might feel if you put a state symbol on a swastika"

That has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Crosses erected to honor Highway Patrol Officers killed in the line of duty, offends these atheist idiots like a swastika offends Jewish people? I would like my foot to offend his a$$.

24 posted on 12/01/2005 7:25:52 AM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: eeevil conservative

To paraphrase the poet, first the atheists will come for the Christians. Then the Jews. The Muslims. Et al. Any person of faith. Anyone who thinks his/her faith is safe will be sadly mistaken.


25 posted on 12/01/2005 7:26:25 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: AppyPappy

Bump!


26 posted on 12/01/2005 7:27:21 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Andyman
Hey Atheists - Uncle Sam has a nondenominational symbol for you


27 posted on 12/01/2005 7:28:43 AM PST by sono (In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat.)
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To: Andyman

"The atheists suggest the association could honor the troopers with a non-denominational symbol."

And violate the religious beliefs of the trooper and family?

Enough. The nazi comparison is just offensive and the idea that the cross is nazism is so bigoted and offensive, so demeaning to Christians, that this group of atheists should apologize.


28 posted on 12/01/2005 7:28:57 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Borax Queen
Three Utah atheists, backed by a national organization based in Texas, are filing suit against the state for allowing crosses to be erected in honor of highway patrol troopers, who have died in the line of duty.

Is this not ridiculous??

29 posted on 12/01/2005 7:29:37 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Morris_Hattrick
The article seems unclear: is the state erecting the crosses?

The Troopers work for the Stae, so one can assume the State is erecting the crosses in their memory.

Why do you ask?

30 posted on 12/01/2005 7:30:43 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Andyman

Speaking as a atheist, this protest is dumb. Assuming they also allow any reasonable form of memorial to accomodate non Christians, memorializing people with a symbol they found meaningful, be it Cross, Star of David, Crescent, or whatever, should offend no one.


31 posted on 12/01/2005 7:30:46 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
"I'll never understand why atheists are so offended by things they believe are false."

I would love to see this guy in a foxhole while being outnumbered 10 to 1 with no escape route... I truly wonder if he might not have a monumental change of faith.

32 posted on 12/01/2005 7:31:01 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Andyman
Richard Andrews said, "I feel the same way a Jew might feel if you put a state symbol on a swastika"

And yet after saying this, this guy will probably expect other people to take him seriously.

He would probably be a lot of fun to bait in person.

33 posted on 12/01/2005 7:32:01 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Andyman

"Three Utah atheists.."

Must be all of 'em.


34 posted on 12/01/2005 7:32:09 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: Edgerunner
Why should they be so upset if they are so sure that GOD doesn't exist?

That has puzzled me for a long time. Any atheist who is secure in their belief that there is no higher power shouldn't be upset by seeing a symbol of someone else's beliefs.

I have concluded that the ones who protest don't want to be reminded that if they are wrong, then they made a huge mistake in judgement.

35 posted on 12/01/2005 7:32:57 AM PST by SCALEMAN (My money is down on Henrickson)
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To: July 4th

1. Where is all this "tolerance" the left brags about?

2. When is some judge going to actually look at our constitution and see there is no Separation of Church and State" written into it? There is only no "State Religion!"


36 posted on 12/01/2005 7:34:39 AM PST by DakotaRed
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To: sono

Hey!

Great pic- lol-- good to see you...


37 posted on 12/01/2005 7:36:06 AM PST by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: Andyman
According to the UHP Association, a support group for troopers and their families, many fallen troopers' relatives consider the memorial crosses just as important as the tombstones that mark their graves.

Isn't THAT the whole point? Why they put up the crosses? To HONOR the fallen troopers. If THEY are Christian, why shouldn't they have a cross memorializing them?

I'll tell you what; if the complaining atheists die, I have no problem not marking their deaths at all. Harsh, but I am SO fed up with 1% or less of the population trying to secularize absolutely everything. Now even the honoring of CHRISTIAN people.

38 posted on 12/01/2005 7:36:30 AM PST by Left Blue NJ for Red SC
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To: Andyman
Richard Andrews said, "I feel the same way a Jew might feel if you put a state symbol on a swastika"

The left considers the Cross to be morally equivalent with the swastika. That kinda says it all about them, doesn't it?
39 posted on 12/01/2005 7:36:41 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: July 4th
I suggest that the atheists shut the hell up.

I suggest Christians stop using the state to bully non-Christians.

This is the United States, not Iran.

40 posted on 12/01/2005 7:39:25 AM PST by mc6809e
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