Missile Attack On Passenger Jet?

Radio News | November 28, 2005

[Jemian]

Thank you. I didn't know and I agree with you. It does seem like terrorism.

[BurbankKarl]

"We had a scare in Los Angeles," said Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., who serves on the Senate Subcommittee on Aviation. "We've been told that they cannot rule out the fact that it was a shoulder-fired missile."

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1772576&page=1

[texianyankee]

Thanks!

pinging BurbankKarl's post to everyone.

[eyespysomething]

Thanks for the ping TY!

Although officials concluded it was most likely a hobby rocket, the investigation remains officially open.

Sure it was. A model rocket. Uh-huh.

[null and void]

That would make a good thread all by itself.

[bd476]

Thanks for the ping, Texianyankee!

[immigration lady]

where was boxy Boxer in November when the story happened? Did she say anything then? Did she try to find out who fired on one of our planes? The woman makes me want to regurgitate.

what now? scour the Pacific for a "model" rocket?

[3D-JOY]

Thanks for the ping...this story has been dormant for some time. I jumped to read what you had to say!

It seems to be a stronger case for a terrorist attack if you only consider this story.

Where was the Boxer quote at the time?

[texianyankee]

"Where was the Boxer quote at the time?"

I dunno, but I suspect she made it during a one-on-one interview with the author of the article, Brian Ross. I cant help but conjecture that possibly Ross is compiling some sort of TV segment that will be run on the evening news or some prime time news show? Maybe this is just a teaser of what is yet to come - We can only hope. I havent forgotten this incident - but I suppose that we will be very lucky if we ever hear of any conclusion to this matter.

[BurbankKarl]

(FOR THE RECORD)


AA 612: Just about 3 or 4 miles miles behind us and about halfway between us and the coastline we just observed some kind of rocket or flare that came up through the cloud cover and then popped off .. could possible be something I don't know .. we can't see a ship or anything because of the cloud cover.

ATC: OK I'll let my supervisor know thanks.

AA 612: That flare was definitely out over the water, probably was at least four or five miles off the coastline.

ATC: OK.

ATC: American 612, do you happen to remember your radar DME off of Seal Beach when you saw that?

AA 612: Ah no sir we sure don't, it was just about .. when we first called you...it was just about three miles behind us.

ATC: OK.



Some minutes later, a second air traffic controller came on and asked the pilot for more information. He speculates with more conviction that it was a rocket, based on the vapor trail:

ATC: American 612, can you verify whether you saw a flare or a rocket?

AA 612: It looked more like a rocket to me, I've seen flares before and it appeared to be more like a rocket.

ATC: Thank you sir.

AA 612 It's higher than any flare I've ever seen.

ATC: Thank you.

ATC: American 612, how far away was it away from your position?

AA 612: It was about halfway between us and the coastline when we first called that last center guy ... probably about I'd say four or five miles off the coastline.

ATC: American 612 what altitude were you at when you saw that?

AA 612: We were probably at uh ... I think we were about 13-thousand or something like that ... there was a small low laying cloud cover so we couldn't see underneath the cloud cover so we were unable to see any kind of a ship or anything down there.

[skip]

ATC: Would that look like a toy rocket? Or was it large or can you describe it at all?

AA 612: Yeah, that's what we were talking about. I think it was...I'm pretty sure it was a rocket of some kind cause it had a definite plume coming out behind it.

ATC: OK so it didn't look like a toy rocket ... I guess you couldn't see the rocket you just saw the plume right?

AA 612: Yeah, we were too far away to see the actual rocket itself...whatever it was. But the plume was there and it was pretty high...it was at least four thousand feet high... 2, 3, 4 thousand feet high something like that, cause it came up above that cloud cover.

ATC: OK, and how far from your position?

AA 612 Oh probably like I'd say about half way between us and the coastline. And we were probably ten miles off the coastline, so it was a couple of miles from us ... two, three I guess.

ATC: OK, so you saw it go above you?

AA 612: Negative. It was definitely below us

ATC: Uh ok. So we're investigating. We're on the line with Washington so thanks for the information.

AA 612: You bet.

[texianyankee]

Ping to everyone for BurbankLarl's prior post.

[TomGuy]

ATC: Uh ok. So we're investigating. We're on the line with Washington so thanks for the information.

Interesting comment there. With the pilot saying it was too high and too far offshore to be a toy, it seems ATC took it seriously.

Wonder which 'agency' was at the other end of "the line with Washington"?

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

bump

[null and void]

The Post Office, Dead Letter Department?

[A CA Guy]

BTTT

[TomGuy]

The Post Office, Dead Letter Department?

Could be.

I'm still waiting for a package shipped via USPS. It got mis-routed. Last known location -- 3 weeks ago -- was a city about 150 miles away.

[txhurl]

bttt

[milford421]

Thanks for the ping on this...

[GOP_1900AD]

Just d###. Is this another case of: "What you saw was the flaming plane, rising up by itself, there was no SAM......" = One of Slick Willie's goons to a qualified military officer who saw the SAM off of Long Island.

[NormB]

Man Pleads Guilty In Plot To Import Shoulder-Fired Missiles


http://www.nbc4.tv/news/8833131/detail.html