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Together in Death: Funeral of Parents Murdered by Daughter's Boyfriend
Lancaster on line Sunday News ^ | 11/19/05 | Helen Colwell Adams

Posted on 11/20/2005 2:10:53 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta

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To: Ditter

I identify completely with you...my son died when he was 15...I remember everything about the funeral, what I was wearing etc. but I could not cry...

My son had a usually rare and terminal type of leukemia...I cried so much when he was ill for the 15 months that he lived with this disease, that when he died, I could no longer cry...no matter how hard I tried to cry, I could not...I was either all cried out, or just in absolute grief and shock...

His funeral was held 700 miles away from where we were living, down by my parents...so we drove down there...when we returned home, a few weeks later, I lost my memory completely, and it was gone for about 15 months..

That was 20yrs ago, and I still have very little recollection of that time right after his funeral...my doc says its just my brains way of dealing with his loss...its probably better that I dont remember how I felt during that time...since I did not get into any trouble or cause problems for anyone(My hubby took great care of me during this time), I do suspect that my having amnesia for that time is really the best thing for my mental health...

People who have never gone through a tremendous shock, or tremendous grief, do not really realize that that shock and grief can make a person act in ways which they thought they would not...

My prayers are with you, in dealing with the death of your child...I know how difficult it can be...


121 posted on 11/20/2005 6:52:07 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: AnAmericanMother

Your right, but I didn't have words for worse than horrible. What surprises me is the way the police are taking their time investigating her part. Normally we see them removed from the home, and then checked out. I think that's good. I do have concerns that the guy he planned with might still be out there but I guess if I thought about this then the police have too and are monitoring.


122 posted on 11/20/2005 6:54:48 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: AnAmericanMother

If he's implicating her then this wasn't about a guy in love with a girl and trying to take her away from her parents. I'm no psych but he probably was just mad because they "interfered"


123 posted on 11/20/2005 7:20:57 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
kids were so "composed."

Pharmacuticals'll do that to you. thanks for the ping.

124 posted on 11/20/2005 7:28:09 PM PST by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves!)
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To: CindyDawg

he probably was just mad because they "interfered".


been thinking the same - a control freak. Probably that's why he brought the gun to the house, if they forbid him to see Kara, he would use it.


125 posted on 11/20/2005 7:40:59 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

It's probably shock. I was 13 when my father died and didn't shed a tear at his furneral. I showed no emotion at all much to the approval of the adult guests. Of course thast repressed grief came back to bite me later but at the time no-one thought anything of it.


126 posted on 11/20/2005 7:51:36 PM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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To: TravisABQ

I wait further evidence before weighing in on her criminal culpability. She is morally culpable for their murders.


127 posted on 11/20/2005 8:09:30 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Yes, I agree with you completely.


128 posted on 11/20/2005 8:10:58 PM PST by rotundusmaximus (1Kgs:19:18: Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal)
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To: CindyDawg
Was Jon, Jonathan? The boyfriend of this girl she was talking too?

That was what I figured, in the absence of hard info.

129 posted on 11/20/2005 8:24:56 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: fabriclady


I remember being fourteen, and probably alot better than you since it was 5 years ago. This poor girl was probably enthralled with the idea that an older boy took interest in her. And of course her parents weren't thrilled. I mean the boy was 18.
She probably just snuck out one night or stayed out and didn't come home. Her parents not knowing where she was went frantic which is what good parents do. And when she shows up at 6 in the morning, they hold her and him accountable.
14 year olds are prone to bad judgement especially bad judgement calls abouts character. Usually we're just left emotionally hurt, and we learn and move on. If her parents thought that boyfriend was even the slightest bit dangerouse, there is no way they would have invited him into their home.


130 posted on 11/20/2005 8:27:46 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: jacquej; jan in Colorado

Thank you for saying what needed to be said.


131 posted on 11/20/2005 8:29:54 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
'“I see the compassion of Mike and Cathy in Kara,” said Bill Bradford, who delivered the message. “Kara was able to reach out to touch some of the most unlovely people.”'
132 posted on 11/20/2005 8:49:02 PM PST by cyn
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To: cyn

That doesn't exactly look like a flattering portrayal (comparing the parents to the rebellious daughter).


133 posted on 11/20/2005 9:01:45 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

what an odd thing to say ... I'm biting my tongue. ouch.


134 posted on 11/20/2005 9:04:53 PM PST by cyn
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what an odd thing to say

My comment or the one in the article? This entire article is odd. Almost as if there's a celebratory undercurrent.

135 posted on 11/20/2005 9:08:27 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
this: Kara was able to reach out to touch some of the most unlovely people.

Yes, the whole article is odd -- guess that's natural, since the whole situation is, too.

136 posted on 11/20/2005 9:14:01 PM PST by cyn
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To: trussell

I join in prayer for all those suffering this loss!


137 posted on 11/20/2005 9:16:59 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: cyn
Hi Cyn

He was grasping for anything to say to try to comfort these kids . I mean, what can you say at a funeral like this?

138 posted on 11/20/2005 9:21:07 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Alamo-Girl

Me too


139 posted on 11/20/2005 9:22:27 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

Thank you for your agreement in prayer!


140 posted on 11/20/2005 9:23:31 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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