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One Woman's Choice
The Washington Post ^ | November 15, 2005 | Maria Eftimiades

Posted on 11/16/2005 3:59:31 AM PST by Eepsy

"So when do you go for the abortion?'' my friend asked, her voice sympathetic.

"Wednesday,'' I replied, and then hurriedly got off the phone. I called Mike, my boyfriend, in tears, complaining about how inconsiderate people are, how no one thinks before they speak. The truth was, until I heard the word "abortion,'' it hadn't occurred to me that I was actually having one.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; contraception; downssyndrome; postabortivewomen
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To: sauropod

Actually, it's "fornication." Promiscuity if fornication with multiple partners.


61 posted on 11/16/2005 6:02:38 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: Eepsy
Maria Eftimiades, You are a baby killer. Your child deserved better than to be conceived by you.

I pray that your guilt never fades and that the pain remains as sharp as can be until you repent totally and admit the murder you performed

62 posted on 11/16/2005 6:09:25 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Herodian; sauropod
As many women know, many prenatal tests have high false positives.

My sister-in-law was told, during her second pregnancy, that she had a very high probability of giving birth to a Downs baby. From what she told me of that office visit, there was almost an assumption that she would choose to abort.

My niece is now twelve years old and smart as a whip. I'm glad her mother decided to laugh at the odds.

63 posted on 11/16/2005 6:15:31 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Aquinasfan
Very reminiscent of NAZI tactics prior to WWII, wouldn't you say?
64 posted on 11/16/2005 6:21:27 AM PST by Laz711 (The Barbarians are in Rome)
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To: Eepsy
Only now do I understand how entirely personal the decision to terminate a pregnancy is and how wrong it feels to bring someone else's morality into the discussion.

Two points. One, there really is no "my morality" and "someone else's morality"; there's only morality based on correct reasoning and false morality based on incorrect reasoning. Two, wasn't "bringing someone else's morality into the discussion" precisely what she did when she killed her child without giving the child and "his morality" any say in the matter?

All of the pro-aborts' arguments amount to special pleading -- "a woman ought to be able to kill the baby in her womb ... why ... just because, dang it!" They can construct no coherent reasoning why killing during gestation is legitimate, but killing after birth -- whether at age 5 minutes or 5 years -- isn't.

65 posted on 11/16/2005 6:26:23 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: imintrouble
Thank you for sharing this wonderful story.

I have a nephew wioth Downs Syndrome. He is a very happy and joyful young man (he is 18). He has few language skills, and he has serious physical problems, but he loves his life.

The thought of not allowing him to live because he has Downs is monstrous.

One more thing -- because of him, the members of my family have experienced a joy they would not have known if he had not come into the world. My sister and brother-in-law, as well as their other children, have learned the joy of sacrificing self for another person.

66 posted on 11/16/2005 6:36:37 AM PST by chs68
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To: Eepsy

Just to point out that, according to the website http://www.womens-health.co.uk/downs.asp, false positives on Downs Syndrome tests range from 2.7% to 7.6% depending on the original risk.

And here is a link to a Downs Syndrome Society in Cincinatti that currently has a waiting list of over a hundred pre-approved families waiting to adopt a Downs Syndrome Child:

http://www.triangledownsyndrome.org/adoption.htm


67 posted on 11/16/2005 6:43:34 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: Eepsy

The baby would surely have had a better shot at a normal life and proper loving care, had he been unafflicted and the Mother a Down syndrome adult.

All murderers must convince themselves that dying was best for their victems.


68 posted on 11/16/2005 7:07:06 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Tag line suspended until my brain returns from vacation)
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To: Eepsy
I posted simply to get my tagline on this thread.
69 posted on 11/16/2005 7:24:13 AM PST by gooleyman ( What about the baby's "RIGHT TO CHOOSE"?????? I bet the baby would chose LIFE.)
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To: Laz711
Very reminiscent of NAZI tactics prior to WWII, wouldn't you say?

Yes. Just don't make me look at the ovens...

70 posted on 11/16/2005 7:42:06 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: wolfcreek
Aside from total Chastity, humans are going to have sex outside of marriage. Until they find a partner to marry and produce children with, would it not be better to use contraception?

Tough question, but the tough answer is no. Without consequences, people are more likely to engage in sex, especially sex outside of marriage. Paul VI predicted what would happen to society with readily available means of artificial birth control (see my post above).

71 posted on 11/16/2005 7:46:03 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: wouldntbprudent

You're right. Thanks.


72 posted on 11/16/2005 7:47:52 AM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: sauropod
That is a derivative argument and awful shaky ground to set up a prohibition. By that logic, one could ban cars because of the temptation to speed, especially for the young.

That's why it's paragraph #17 of a very solid natural law argument.

I'll ask you the same question. What Bible verse prohibits contraception?

Which Bible verse says that only evils that are explicitly stated in the Bible are truly evil?

Regardless, the sin of Onan is clear enough. At least it was to all Christians prior to 1929.

73 posted on 11/16/2005 7:49:13 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

A beautiful and perfect response!


74 posted on 11/16/2005 8:02:07 AM PST by Nea Wood (A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children. Proverbs 13:22)
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To: Aquinasfan

The sin of Onan was that he disobeyed God's command to procreate if memory serves. He spilled his seed on the ground to prevent procreation. It was not the act itself that was wrong, it was the intention behind the act. Trying to build a logical bridge between this and contreceptives is akin to trying to build that famous bridge to the 21st century.

Contraceptives are not intrinsically evil. I'm not buying your argument.


75 posted on 11/16/2005 8:11:47 AM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: gooleyman
Re: your tag line

Yes, in most cases. But not in every case. There are severe chromosomal defects that result - if the baby makes it to term - in a very brief, painful existence. I don't really think anyone would choose that.

76 posted on 11/16/2005 8:16:12 AM PST by lugsoul
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To: Eepsy
I'm sure pro-lifers don't give you the right to grieve for the baby you chose not to bring into the world (another euphemism, although avoiding the word "abortion'' doesn't take any sting out of the decision to have one).

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Grieving for your baby is the first, most important part of healing. Teresa Burke has done plenty of research on this. Project Rachel, Rachel's Vineyard, these programs help women grieve their babies. Teresa Burke even recommends that a woman name her baby.

Little Johnny is no doubt looking down on his mother with pity right now. God bless her and bring her healing.

77 posted on 11/16/2005 8:19:31 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swanni, run!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
No one is saying it's easy

But I won't say raising a DS child is harder than a mainstream kid.

When my son was small, I will concede it was slightly more difficult to take care of him than our other babies. He wore a diaper longer, needed to be carried longer, and was on the whole, more physically tiring for us than his siblings. But I still wouldn't call it difficult. And then, of course, there are the surgeries. My son, like many DS kids, had to undergo heart surgery three times. Surgery on a child is tough on any family.

However, and I say this with all sincerity - it would be easier (and more fulfilling) to have half a dozen Downs teenagers, than one average teen.

78 posted on 11/16/2005 8:31:43 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swanni, run!)
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To: DB

Your mother's right to not be inconvenienced supersedes your right to exist. /sarcasm


79 posted on 11/16/2005 8:41:25 AM PST by Ignatz (I misunderstood you correctly the first time.)
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To: Jim Noble

Adultery and fornication are used interchangeably in the Bible, so yes, the adultery on the "Big Ten" does include fornication.

Note the Savior did not make distinction between married and unmarried when he declared lust a form of adultery.


80 posted on 11/16/2005 8:44:48 AM PST by frgoff
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