Excellent point. It's astonishing that the Episcopal church actually thought Vicky was going to settle down to a nice, quiet and private life with his lover!
Posted on 11/10/2005 5:53:53 AM PST by NYer
The first openly gay Episcopal bishop insisted Wednesday he was not encouraging Roman Catholics to leave their church when he criticized its view of homosexuals during a recent speech in London.
New Hampshire Bishop V. Gene Robinson, at a service Friday commemorating the 10th anniversary of Changing Attitude, a British group which advocates full inclusion of gays in the Anglican faith community, noted during his talk that many Catholics in his home state were becoming Episcopalian.
"Pope Ratzinger may be the best thing that ever happened to the Episcopal Church," Robinson said, referring to former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who is now Pope Benedict XVI. But Robinson said in a phone interview Wednesday from New Hampshire that he was recounting what a Catholic woman told him about why she was joining the Protestant denomination -- not expressing his own opinion. He said the woman was disappointed that the successor to Pope John Paul II would probably not make any significant changes in Catholic teaching.
Robinson said he had commented on Catholic issues in response to a question from a gay Catholic struggling with his place in his church. Catholic teaching considers gay sex "intrinsically disordered."
Robinson said he told the man that it was an "act of violence against gay folk" that the Vatican was considering instructing its seminaries to bar homosexuals and viewed it as an attempt by Catholic leaders to blame gays for the clergy sex abuse crisis. But Robinson said he told the young man that he should live "such that the light of Christ so shone through him that no one in his church could doubt his full membership in the body of Christ."
"I was not encouraging this young Roman Catholic man to be confrontative in any way," Robinson said.
Robinson's 2003 consecration sparked a crisis within world Anglicanism; the majority of Anglicans overseas believe gay relationships violate Scripture. It also has created tensions between the 77-million-member Anglican Communion and other denominations, including the Catholic Church. The Episcopal Church is the communion's U.S. branch.
Frankly, if some Catholics disagree with the Church's teachings, and agree with the homosexual Episcopal Bishop. I wish they WOULD leave the Church and go to the Episcopal Church. That way they wouldn't continue to muck up MY church and confuse other practicing Catholics.
Gene Robinson is pure evil!
Satan grins and drools and rubs his hands together as more churches become apostate. The joke's on him though as he has already lost; it's just a matter of when Christ returns to set things aright...
Amen!
Excellent point. It's astonishing that the Episcopal church actually thought Vicky was going to settle down to a nice, quiet and private life with his lover!
"Never play chess with an Episcopalian - because they can't tell a bishop from a queen."
Now that is a great quote! Many thanks!
Do you really care if he recruits homos to leave the church?
I could not have said it any better!!!
Is Genie the daddy or the mommy in his "relationship?"
Bishop Robinson told BBC News:
The "Sin of Sodom" had nothing to do with homosexual sex but was a "failure to care for the poor, the widows and the orphans", he said.
Oh really?
Welcome.
Welcome.
It's amazing how telling someone that something is a sin has become "an act of violence".
Well Vicke Gene is an act of violence toward Christians.
Of course not. He wants dissidents to stay in the Catholic Church and overthrow the deposit of faith from within.
"The "Sin of Sodom" had nothing to do with homosexual sex but was a "failure to care for the poor, the widows and the orphans", he said."
Cafeteria Christianity at it's best.
Pick and choose what you like, pretend the rest doesn't exist. To these people there are no sins but social ones. People don't personally sin. There is no kind of sexuality that's deviant, there's no such thing as vice, just "personal lifestyle choices".
The more squishies this guy recruits from the Catholic Church, the stronger the Catholic Church will get.
I was surprised to learn that Espicopalian is the most common faith cited by U.S. presidents, including George Washington and George H.W. Bush. What does that mean?
The Anglican Catholic Church, not the Episcopal Group, is the HOME of so many American Presidents. Anglicans are not Episcopalians! Anglican Parishes are growing all over the world, especially in the USofA.
The reality of course is that these dishonest Gay Nazis who seized control of the Episcopal Church are causing large numbers of good, honest Episcopalians to become Catholics. They care NOTHING for the ECUSA. It is all about themselves and their evil agenda.
I thought I had read over and over that the Anglican Church is worldwide, and that Episcopalians were the American branch of the Anglican Church. Is this wrong?
It's obvious what's happening.
Both churches are realigning and their memberships are adjusting accordingly. The Catholic Church is picking up conservative Episcopalian parishioners and even priests - indeed, talks are underway to bring in the entire Traditional Anglican Communion - and liberal Catholics are going Episcopalian.
So we get Al Kimel. They get Matthew Fox.
It saddens me to see anyone leave the Church. But I'll take that tradeoff.
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