Posted on 11/08/2005 8:20:03 PM PST by ajolympian2004
TODAY, Californians are heading to the polls to vote on several major propositions that shall dramatically affect both the political and economic future of our state.
We are following the activity and will report the results.
California Propositions
2.8% of precincts reporting as of Nov 08 08:13 PM PST
Results: http://www.sfgate.com/election/
(Excerpt) Read more at vote2005.ss.ca.gov ...
"I'm so disgusted, but glad I got out of that State when I did."
You're right. California deserves Bustamonte.
I hope you didn't move here, to Virginia. I wouldn't wish that on any conservative. We are about to get it, here. The GOP keeps winning the legislature, raising taxes, and spending like a Sobor Bush.
Sad FRegards....
California really was once a good place to live. Yes, there were earthquakes, just as there are hurricanes in Florida, but people can withstand an occasional jolt from nature to live in an otherwise beautiful place.
California was also a state that leaned Republican. Even San Francisco wasn't all that liberal until the 1960's. Exotic, but not leftist as it is now. California elected Ronald Reagan twice as governor. In national politics, it usually took a huge Democrat landslide to put California in the Democrat column. Harry Truman carried the state in '48, but he was the guy who nuked Japan, which made him quite popular in California, where fear of Japanese attacks were high. From 1952 until 1988, the state went Republican in every presidential election except the Democrat landslide in '64.
So what happened? Why is the state now such a leftist dumping ground?
Two things: leftists moved there from elsewhere in the country, and immigrants have poured in from other lands.
Leftists love to live in beautiful surroundings, but only after someone else has tamed the land and made it "safe" for them. You won't find many leftists out on the untamed frontier. By the 1960's, California had been tamed, so to speak, by the morally strong people who built the state's infrastructure, dammed its rivers, bridged its harbors, and so on. Millions of lefties, with a tilt of the wrist, said, "Ooooh, I'd just loooove to live in San Francisco or Santa Monica!"
And so the influx began. But that alone wasn't enough to flip the state firmly into the leftist column. After all, a lot of conservatives also moved to California from elsewhere in America.
What finally flipped California was the 1965 immigration law, which threw open our borders to the Third World. The fact that we pretty much stopped even guarding the borders at about the same time added icing to the cake. This massive flow of Third Worlders into California not only added Democrat voters, but had the effect of running many conservatives out of the state. The combined power of the minority vote and the white leftist vote by the 1990's dominated the state.
California has become a microcosm of what the left plans for the entire country. They envision a society where large racial voting blocs join forces with elite, culturally exotic whites to ravage the middle class (e.g., the conservative voters who pull the wagon and do the heavy lifting). This is why elite whites support "multi-culturalism". They don't want these minorities to become Americans like prior generations of immigrants. They want them to stay a hostile racial pack dependent on government.
There's some risk to the left in this. Hispanics appear to have voted pro-life yesterday on prop 73. But overall the left appears to have taken California over, and like the Soviets they plan to entrench socialism there ever more deeply.
The state's future appears pretty grim, and it affects the future of our entire nation.
I'm glad we're out of CA too, but it pains me to see this happen in my native state.
The weather and landscape are beautiful. I'll give you that.
"I've got mine; so screw you".
I've witnessed it across the generations and sexes and ethnicities in CA. Right here, IMHO, is the "rub" CA GOP needs to fathom and refigure, IMHO.
"I'm glad we're out of CA too, but it pains me to see this happen in my native state."
I am a native San Diegan. Everyone please do not forget about us in places like this. We are conservatives here and a military town.
Just getting Arnold in and this election costing the Unions hundreds of millions of dollars is good. I am heartbroken about the loss. But its simply a chess move in the big game. They unions sacrificed much to maintain the status quo. The battle is over, we lost this one. But the unions are weakened by this battle. I am proud of Arnold!
I am proud of our conservative counties that backed him. WE are still here and we are going to keep fighting.
You didn't vote? Are you freaking kidding me? You have the audacity to whine and complain EVERY SINGLE DAY on FreeRepublic and then, when you actually have a chance to make a difference...YOU DO NOTHING? How dare you.
In the long run, democracies just cannot survive. Benefits can be voted in, but can never be voted out. Once a tipping point occurs (as it has in France & Calif), the society/culture will eventually collapse from its own non-productive weight, to be followed by tyranny. At some point in the far future, a revolution will occur, a republic will be established, and the long cycle towards decline will begin once again.
Did you vote? Honestly?
Precisely my point. One of the core conservative values is to keep fiscal responsibility foremost. Looking at that one alone is a stark contrast to the claims that there are huge conservative blocs of voters across the state. Maybe there are, maybe there aren't. The point is that they sure as hell ain't showing up at the polls!
Did you vote?
California is done. Schwarzenneger might as well hand over the keys of the State Treasury to the Public Employee Unions.
When running for office, Schwarzenneger said he would work with the Legislature to reform the system. The Democrats promptly showed him that no one could work with the Democrats in the Legislature. And many Republicans called him a RINO and vilified him for even trying.
The Democrats and Unions were acting true-to-form throughout the elections. My disgust is reserved for the so-called conservatives that wouldn't support the Reform measures because of their dislike for the Governor.
Arnold is through. He certainly won't be re-elected. There won't be any meaninful reforms until California goes bankrupt. And the people that called him a RINO will not be happy with his replacement. Sorry folks, we don't get another Reagan (unless it's Ron Jr.) After supporting the Governor's reforms, McClintock is even more damaged, and he'll never win in Blue-State California. No, what we'll get is a meathead or some other Gray Davis clone.
And if we continue eating our own, we'll see Bill and Hillary back in the White House. Oh, Joy Unbounded!
/Rant
Somehow I doubt they will. When this state tanks, it's guaranteed that the Feds will bail them out "for the good of America."
Think it won't happen? Just have a look at what Bush has promised to Louisiana and tell me a Democrat won't up the ante in bailing out Kollyfornyuh.
There now calling it a "Government workers victory" against the people of California.
LOL! The freaking government employees are starting to out number the working class.
Sorry, DU'ers. There will be no whining here.
We accept the results, and will continue educating moderate legislators and voters about the seriously negative ramifications of the radical left and their agendas in this state.
In the mean time the right is just begining to galvanize here. Prop. 13 will be protected, and CA'ians still don't like uncontrolled spending and unaccountable government.
What do you expect? These are the same people who refer to the Watts and L.A. riots as "rebellions."
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
I'm so pissed off...conservatives talk a good game but then when it comes to action, if they have to get off their fat asses, forget it. Any California Freeper who didn't vote should be shunned. I'm just shocked to read that. When I lived in California I was the first in line to vote on any given election day. Think about it, there are people here who didn't even vote in the special election and it was such an important one for Republicans. I find that mind boggling and so sad for the future of the West coast and the whole country.
It's the "goverment employees victory"!
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