Posted on 11/07/2005 11:46:41 PM PST by BillyBoy
My Fellow FReepers,
As it now past midnight (well at least for those of us in Central Standard Time) and I did a general search and couldn't find a single thread dedicated to election 2005, I have taken the liberty of creating one.
THIS is the place to post all your updates and discussions on '05 races around the country. From the Boston Mayoral Race to the fight for Virginia Attorney General, keep the adrenaline flowing here.
Will the GOP make a midterm gubernatorial comeback after suffering through the 2001 "mistakes" of McGreeley and Mark Warner? Will Ahnuld, the CA Dummycrats, or independent minded conservatives emerge triumph in California's latest (but not greatest!) "special election"? Will the liberal incumbent crush his equally liberal challenger in New York? And do conservatives even care?
Let's get the discussion rolling folks. You heard it here first!
NJ will get more of the same. Might as well of left mcgreevey in office for all the difference corzine will make.
YIPEE!!!!
People living in my borough who voted for this monstrosity need to be denied the franchise, because they are certifiable imbeciles.
In Cali: state control of electric competition, of pharma benefits; abortion notice; teacher tenure; one more thing I can't recall.
Knock yourself. After that STUPID rude post you made a while ago when I asked if you were in NY, I'm not wasting my time with you.
"And yes, when things are better for the GOP, the polls WILL STILL BE important. That's my point. And if Bush's approval are 25% this time next year, you should care, especially if voter discontent means losing both houses of congress."
You're still overstating the correlation between a President's JA rating and the outcomes of local/state races.
In November of 1986, Ronald Reagan boasted a 63% JA rating; HOWEVER, the GOP suffered one of their worst congressional elections EVER! In the Senate alone, the party composition shifted from +6 Republican to +10 Democrat!!!! [The Iran Contra nightmare didn't break until a month later; at which time, Reagan's JA plummeted 23 points and remained very weak thru 1987!]
Virginia did indeed elect another centrist Democrat, although the Republican was not a very good candidate. Neither was NJ's Forrester for that matter.
It is a shame about California initiatives if they fail. I'm hoping at least two pass.
We also have the Union due initiative, the redistricting initiative, and the budget initiative.
Hey, you promised I wasn't worth your time!
Maybe.
But I'm noticing between the OH amendments, TEXAS Marriage amendment, Kaine winning on a conservative campaign that the trend seems to favor conservative positions. No, Kaine isn't a conservative, but he certainly benefited from perception. Cali may pull out a few surprises yet if the trend extends there. The only oddball so far is N.J., but Forrester didn't run as a conservative. He had some conservative positions, but ran as Dem lite. So they chose the real thing.
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"Yeah, Scott is a wuss. He's no Ari Fleischer.
Notice how fast the MSM quit interviews Gen. Honore after he called them what they are...stupid?"
I agree, Ari was so much better - I remember at a Press awards banquet they said he really knew how to 'work the room'. Along with his comments, some of them zingers, he had that kinda Cheshire cat smile.
Yes, Gen honore has their number, too bad the WH doesn't - -they need to push ahead, and soon!
Savage!!! spare me.
With sufficient Schwartzeneggerische success in Cali, your analysis will be correct. I'm pessimistic.
Schundler-a true conservative-lost by an even wider margin.
FReepmail sent.
How true.
I still think the Democrats will either go with a Warner in '08, or someone like Al Gore. I just don't think the triangulation theory is going to be very popular. Her name is the only reason she is a contender.
The polls are still open for another 25 minutes.
At the moment, it is still up in the air. All the polls have been all over the place (unfortunately, right now, they are leading towards the no category for the most recent polls). Though from most of the polls, Prop. 76 (one dealing with the Governor's powers, spending limits, etc.) appears to be the one that will fail. Prop. 73 and 74 (first one is parents notice for abortion, and the second one is teachers tenure) are a tossup. Prop 75 was leading until very recently in the polls, and I hope that it does pull through (this one is about the Union dues). Prop 77 might fail too (which is redistricting) but who knows at this point. Prop. 78, 79, and 80 (first two are drug initiatives, one supported by the drug companies, and the other by unions, and the last one is the reregulation of electricity) all appear to be headed towards defeat.
But again, all up in the air right now.
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