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Paris/France burns, Live thread (night #10)

Posted on 11/05/2005 9:39:59 AM PST by Dane

It is now getting dark in Paris and in all of France(appx. 6:40 PM Paris Time), and if there are any French FR lurkers(lurquers), this may be the thread to post your reports about any further violence.

It seems the French govt. is impotent in it's response to what seems are jihadist thugs and it seems the American media has put a news blackout filter to what is really happening, so as not to embarass their heroes, Chirac et al.

So any news reports or personal reports from what happens tonight are welcome, and don't worry about broken English, reports in French are welcome also, I have no doubt someone can translate.

I really dread putting up a live thread about such a matter, but it seems that the American MSM is following French govt. orders to play down to what it seems is an insurrection.


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To: hershey

I’ll answer your questions in the next couple of days through Freepmail. I have to get up at 4:30 a.m. tomorrow. Please be assured that the RPC (Republic of China) does not have a hold on the canal as many Freepers would like to think and believe. (It would make their day if it were true.) It’s these crazy South American countries going bonkers who are the big threat to Panama and not China.

Rest well.

Regards.


581 posted on 11/05/2005 4:55:07 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Cplus
I'll be pleasantly surprised if we have some on-site reports.

There are a fair number of German Freepers, and a a couple from Holland, a good number from the British Isle, but I don't think I've ever seen a French Freeper.

582 posted on 11/05/2005 4:55:08 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Falconspeed

You're welcome Falsonspeed ;o)


583 posted on 11/05/2005 4:55:24 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life.)
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To: Kristopher

Sounds like what it was under the Nazis, or under the Communists depending on where you happened to live. Everybody knows quite well the situation, but nobody can talk about it.


584 posted on 11/05/2005 4:56:37 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: cgbg
We should not get involved in this one. France already died. There is nothing left to save.

I beg to differ! I have room on my back 40 for the entire contents of the Musee d'Orsay and L'Orangerie.

The Louvre, you say? Feh! Except for maybe La Gioconda (the Mona Lisa) and a few other trinkets. The first 2 have perhaps the cream of neo-classical and Impressionist works in France.

585 posted on 11/05/2005 4:58:20 PM PST by IonImplantGuru ("Me? You talking to me? You talkin' to me? Then [BLEEP]... Well, I'm the only one here.")
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To: LikeLight

Place de la République in Paris - 4 cars reported torched near here tonight.

586 posted on 11/05/2005 4:59:42 PM PST by LikeLight
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To: Dane

587 posted on 11/05/2005 5:00:07 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Dane

Two schools burnt down in Paris

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L06703940.htm


588 posted on 11/05/2005 5:00:18 PM PST by Ray66
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To: Dane
uh, oh! Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
589 posted on 11/05/2005 5:00:45 PM PST by quiche
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To: IonImplantGuru

Good idea. Lets' take the treasure before they get burned too.


590 posted on 11/05/2005 5:00:52 PM PST by outofhere2
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To: Savage Beast
*sniff, sniff*
591 posted on 11/05/2005 5:01:17 PM PST by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....on FRED THOMPSON for a seat on the SUPREME COURT!)
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To: Dane

On the edge of Anarchy



A country in flames… French cities teeter on the edge of anarchy
By Kim Willsher in Clichy-sous-Bois, Paris

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/06/wfran06.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/11/06/ixnewstop.html


592 posted on 11/05/2005 5:01:59 PM PST by Ray66
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To: RightWhale; All
French rioters torch cars, schools in fresh violence

06 Nov 2005 00:17:36 GMT

Source: Reuters

By Astrid Wendlandt

PARIS, Nov 6 (Reuters) - Two schools were burnt down in Paris and hundreds of cars set on fire in cities across France in a tenth night of rioting in poor suburban areas that went into the early hours of Sunday, the Interior Ministry said.

The schools were set ablaze in the Paris suburb of Essonne, but no one was reported hurt in the weekend attack. About 68 people had been arrested after the renewed violence as of late on Saturday, the ministry said.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin summoned eight key ministers and a top Muslim official to his offices on Saturday as he sought to chart an end to the violence.

The violence has been seen as the expression of pent-up anger by youths, many Muslims of North African and black African origin, at police treatment, racism, unemployment and their marginal place in French society.

In Saturday night's rioting, the Interior Ministry said about 480 cars had been gutted across France, with about 190 in the Paris region and 290 in the rest of the country.

A number of public and commercial buildings were targeted, authorities said. In Evreux in Normandy, a mall was set on fire, burning down more than 50 vehicles while a post office and two schools were also set alight.

On Friday night, rioters had burnt almost 900 vehicles in the Paris region and large provincial cities like Bordeaux, Strasbourg, Pau, Rennes, Toulouse and Lille, the highest total since unrest sparked by the deaths of two youths apparently fleeing police.

"Violence is not a solution," Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, accused of stoking passions by calling troublemakers "scum", told reporters after the Villepin meeting.

"Once the crisis is over, everyone will have to understand there are a certain number of injustices in some neighbourhoods. We are trying to be firm and avoid any provocation. We have to avoid any risk of explosion," he said.

ACRID SMOKE

After nine nights of wailing sirens, acrid smoke, stone-throwing and destruction, residents from all ethnic backgrounds are tiring of the unrest.

An Interior Ministry spokesman said the government had called in reinforcements for police and fire services.

In Aulnay-sous-Bois, a rundown suburb of 80,000 inhabitants northeast of Paris, several thousand residents, some singing the national anthem, marched past burnt out vehicles behind a "No To Violence, Yes To Dialogue" banner.

"It's a sign that the laws of the republic apply to everyone and that we will not give in to violence," said Mayor Gerard Gaudron, a member of the governing UMP party.

Police had arrested 258 people on Friday night.

As France struggled to understand the turmoil, a cafe owner in Aulnay-sous-Bois, had a simple explanation: "It's a game. The kids are out there because all they want to do is trash stuff."

The U.S. embassy in Paris has advised its citizens to avoid some Paris suburbs including Seine-Saint-Denis and Trappes.

Villepin, who cancelled a visit to Canada to tackle the violence, met residents from troubled neighbourhoods late on Friday as part of efforts to start a dialogue. He is to publish an action plan for 750 tough districts by the end of the month.

The drawn-out crisis could yet hurt his political fortunes and those of Sarkozy, his rival to lead the right in 2007 presidential elections.

Sarkozy has courted Muslim opinion by urging a measure of positive discrimination and setting up a Council of Muslim Faith to represent France's 5 million-strong Muslim community.

Latest from Reuters.

Link

593 posted on 11/05/2005 5:02:09 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: dubyaismypresident

"He's long over due for his dirt nap."

Yes. I can hardly wait to add RIP if anyone should ever mention his name again.


594 posted on 11/05/2005 5:02:49 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: hershey
I also remember reading that Ireland had become a favorite spot for Muslim immigrants.

Oh, I do hope you are wrong about Ireland.

595 posted on 11/05/2005 5:03:33 PM PST by ncpatriot
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To: ncpatriot

Ireland! Say it aint so.


596 posted on 11/05/2005 5:04:39 PM PST by outofhere2
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To: U S Army EOD
He admitted the only reason he did it was because he was muslim, however he kind of had a track record as a looser.

His name was friggin' Hassan! And losers dont toss grenades in officers' tents, they get tossed in the stockade for drunken fighting ..

597 posted on 11/05/2005 5:05:06 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: U S Army EOD

"Be careful what you wish for, we don't need an ultra right wing unified Europe."

Make a huge difference at the UN!


598 posted on 11/05/2005 5:05:32 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MAINSTREAM MEDIA ISN'T MAINSTREAM IT'S THE ENEMEDIA!)
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To: Dane

All I can say to the Muslims is: just try this in the U.S. We will show the world how to deal with Muslim street thugs, when they get shot down, cocktails in hand, on our streets. Bring it on!


599 posted on 11/05/2005 5:05:52 PM PST by montag813
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To: IonImplantGuru
I have room on my back 40 for the entire contents of the Musee d'Orsay and L'Orangerie

The Musee d'Orsay was impressive. If one wanted, one could actually touch the Van Gogh's. No velvet ropes seperating you from the paintings.

600 posted on 11/05/2005 5:06:41 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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