Posted on 11/05/2005 9:39:59 AM PST by Dane
It is now getting dark in Paris and in all of France(appx. 6:40 PM Paris Time), and if there are any French FR lurkers(lurquers), this may be the thread to post your reports about any further violence.
It seems the French govt. is impotent in it's response to what seems are jihadist thugs and it seems the American media has put a news blackout filter to what is really happening, so as not to embarass their heroes, Chirac et al.
So any news reports or personal reports from what happens tonight are welcome, and don't worry about broken English, reports in French are welcome also, I have no doubt someone can translate.
I really dread putting up a live thread about such a matter, but it seems that the American MSM is following French govt. orders to play down to what it seems is an insurrection.
That's a good one. :)
There is no alternative. Either appease again, hoping to put off the day of reckoning, or face them down and fight for France. The second choice is America/Bush's choice...and we were smart enough to fight the battle where our enemies lived and trained. France has to find some way to blame this on America and Bush. That's a given. What they do about it is another matter.
We'll have to wait to see what needs replacing when this has ended. It may be more than autos.
I'm sure the DNC is already putting together their talking points for the Sunday shows on how to blame this on Bush.
The media have been reporting on car-burning riots since at least 1998. Chirac spoke out against this type of violence, January 1, 1998
It's probably like any bad situation that seems okay, as long as you are able to move out of the way, when the fires start in your neighborhood.
I would feel better if the mooligans wouldn't attack the firefighters.
If rioters were being shot on sight on day ONE, there would be no day NINE, or EIGHT, or SEVEN, or SIX, or FIVE, and would likely guarantee there would be no day FOUR, or THREE, and maybe no day TWO. The muslims are doing this because they know the french have no spine and they'd rather give in than fight. france has been all about giving in the past few decades, why would they suddenly start fighting now? Just like in N.O., if the order to shoot ALL looters taking things other than food, water, or medical supplies, had been given on DAY ONE, the looting in N.O. would have come to a screaching hault jiffy quick. But Louisiana liberals, like the french, don't know how to do things in the real grown up world.
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No I missed it. But knowing SP they layed it on thick. lol
So all these people whose cars were burnt, how do they get to work I wonder.
Indeed! The next thing that we'll be reading in the NY Times is how France has voted to undergo a transition to Islam throughout it's nation. LOL
Could be "white laundry day" in France any day now.
I guess since the terrorists got kicked out" of Iraq, they've decided to reestablish themselves in France.
I wonder what Beldar will have to say about this.
Hey, the NYT actually (but grudgingly) put the insurrection story above the fold with a photograph, although precedence of course was given to the Communist anti-Bush protest. Note they featured a photograph of a burning car, as if the vehicles in Paris are combusting spontaneously.
A Frenchie on Hannity and Colmes last night when asked why the government wasn't containing the rioting said something like this, WHEN WE ASK,THEY WONT LISTEN.
Frenchmen, what can you say but SISSIES.
Crescent France appeasers
Most Parisian's ride the subway - it really is an excellent system in terms of the number of stops - but you have to sit next to alot of 'scum' sometimes.
We cannot allow French nukes to fall into Muslim/Islamofascist hands.
05/11/2005 20:50 - (SA)
Paris - French authorities on Saturday stepped up police action against youths responsible for more than a week of urban riots as suspicions grew that the gangs were becoming increasingly organised.
Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy called a meeting of police chiefs to discuss tactics as they braced for another night of violence that has so far defied all efforts to stamp it out.
In a sign of the government's resolve, police said more than 250 people were arrested during Friday night alone - doubling at once the number of detentions recorded since the troubles first erupted on October 27.
Nearly 900 vehicles were torched that same night, making it the worst in terms of the arson attacks that have come to characterise the rampages.
Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin held a crisis meeting with Sarkozy and other key ministers on Saturday, as the rioting dominated world headlines and prompted the United States and Russia to warn its citizens against travelling through Paris suburbs.
Officials were "unanimous in their firmness" in seeking an end to the violence, Sarkozy said after the meeting.
"The violence is not acceptable," he told journalists.
While the government acknowledged that the grim conditions in the suburbs - chronic high unemployment, racial discrimination, miserable housing, drugs - had much to do with the discontent, Sarkozy and other security officials also voiced suspicions that the unrest was being organised.
Paris prosecutor general Yves Bot told Europe 1 radio on Saturday there was "organised violence", but did not say by whom.
Violence has also flared in other cities...
"If I could give an exact answer, those people would already be under arrest," he said. "But we can see organised actions, a strategy."
Youths have been seen relaying police movements by cellphone, and have started internet weblogs urging other parts of France to join the unrest.
While deprived suburbs with large immigrant Arab and African populations on the fringes of Paris were again the scene of the worst of the riots, violence has also flared in other cities around the country - Lille, Rouen, Rennes, Toulouse, Marseille - over the past two nights.
The prospect of co-ordinated actions is of special concern in France, given that the areas most affected by the violence are downtrodden suburbs with high concentrations of Muslims, some of whom have been influenced by radical forms of Islam.
The country is home to Europe's biggest Muslim community, estimated at more than five million, or nearly 10% of the population.
So far, though, there has been no religious dimension given to the riots. Those taking part have spoken more of protesting the misery of their lives in the fringe towns, where unemployment of over 20% is the norm.
The violence began last week when two teenagers, of African and Arab origins, were electrocuted while hiding in an electrical sub-station after fleeing a police identity check.
Since then, there has been evidence it has been fanned by tough rhetoric by Sarkozy, who has been preparing a bid to run in 2007 presidential elections on the strength of "zero tolerance" law-and-order policies.
The above is from South Africa News 24.
Stains, France lol
LOL!
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