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French Rioters Shoot at Police, Fire Crews
AP ^ | November 3, 2005 | JAMEY KEATEN

Posted on 11/03/2005 9:00:21 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

Rioting youths shot at police and firefighters Thursday after burning car dealerships and public buses and hurling rocks at commuter trains. France's government faced growing pressure to curb the violence, fueled by anger over poor conditions in suburban Paris housing projects.

Rampaging for an eighth day, youths ignored an appeal for calm from French President Jacques Chirac, whose government worked feverishly to fend off a political crisis amid criticism that it has ignored problems in suburbs heavily populated by first- and second-generation North African and Muslim immigrants.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin called a string of emergency meetings with Cabinet ministers throughout the day. He told the Senate the government "will not give in" to violence in the troubled suburbs.

"Order and justice will be the final word in our country," Villepin said. "The return to calm and the restoration of public order are the priority _ our absolute priority."

The riots started last Thursday after the electrocution deaths of two teenagers hiding in a power station from police they believed were chasing them in the northeastern suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois.

By Wednesday night, violence had spread to at least 20 Paris-region towns, said Jean-Francois Cordet, the top government official for the Seine-Saint-Denis region north of Paris where the violence has been concentrated. He said youths in the region fired four shots at riot police and firefighters but caused no injuries.

Nine people were injured in Seine-Saint-Denis and 315 cars burned across the Paris area, officials said. In the tough northeastern suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois, youth gangs set fire to a Renault car dealership and burned at least a dozen cars, a supermarket and a local gymnasium.

Traffic was halted Thursday morning on a suburban commuter line linking Paris to Charles de Gaulle airport after stone-throwing rioters attacked two trains overnight at the Le Blanc-Mesnil station. They forced a conductor from one train and broke windows, the SNCF rail authority said. A passenger was lightly injured by broken glass.

The unrest has highlighted the division between France's big cities and their poor suburbs, with frustration simmering in the housing projects in areas marked by high unemployment, crime and poverty.

The violence also cast doubt on the success of France's model of seeking to integrate its large immigrant community _ its Muslim population, at an estimated 5 million, is Western Europe's largest _ by playing down differences between ethnic groups. Rather than feeling embraced as full and equal citizens, immigrants and their French-born children complain of police harassment and of being refused jobs, housing and opportunities.

Opposition groups accused the government of letting the situation spiral out of control, either by failing to act quickly enough or letting in too many immigrants over the years.

"We see that the situation in certain neighborhoods is not getting better at all but degenerating," Socialist Party President Jean-Marc Ayrault told LCI television, who said Chirac's conservatives "did not know how to take control."

Right-wing French lawmaker Philippe de Villiers, who has said he wants to "stop the Islamization of France," told RTL radio that the problem stemmed from the "failure of a policy of massive and uncontrolled immigration."

Minister of Social Cohesion Jean-Louis Borloo said the government had to react "firmly" but added that France must also acknowledge its failure to have dealt with anger simmering in poor suburbs for decades.

"We cannot hide the truth: that for 30 years we have not done enough," he told France-2 television.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: europe; france; frenchriots; islam; muslim; paris; parisriots; religionofpeace; riot; rop
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1 posted on 11/03/2005 9:00:22 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

French Rioters? ARAB M U S L I M Rioters...........


2 posted on 11/03/2005 9:01:03 AM PST by Red Badger (Whatever happened to formulas 1 through 408?.........)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Call up the 2nd SS Panzer Division...!
3 posted on 11/03/2005 9:01:44 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
the problem stemmed from the "failure of a policy of massive and uncontrolled immigration."

Hmmm........Where have I seen this before????????.....

4 posted on 11/03/2005 9:02:19 AM PST by Red Badger (Whatever happened to formulas 1 through 408?.........)
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To: West Coast Conservative

France should probably institute some sort of gun control.


5 posted on 11/03/2005 9:02:42 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Right-wing French lawmaker Philippe de Villiers, who has said he wants to "stop the Islamization of France," told RTL radio that the problem stemmed from the "failure of a policy of massive and uncontrolled immigration."

Maybe all is not lost...


6 posted on 11/03/2005 9:03:25 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: Red Badger
aren't guns illegal in France.....oh my cheese
7 posted on 11/03/2005 9:03:48 AM PST by Youngman442002
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To: West Coast Conservative

don't the rioters know what it means when they wave their white flags?


8 posted on 11/03/2005 9:03:51 AM PST by tioga
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Order and justice will be the final word in our country," Villepin said. "The return to calm and the restoration of public order are the priority _ our absolute priority."

What Villepin is basically saying is -
'So you immigrant thugs feel free to act out all you want. Just let us know when you are done with your destructive temper tantrum and we'll all sit down and talk.'

Such effective leadership...


9 posted on 11/03/2005 9:04:14 AM PST by austinaero
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To: 2banana

>>The violence also cast doubt on the success of France's model of seeking to integrate its large immigrant community - its Muslim population,<<<
When will European idiots realize that Muslims in their countries DO NOT WANT to assimilate???


10 posted on 11/03/2005 9:04:18 AM PST by travlnmn41
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To: 2banana

I bet the French would like to have ANY Panzer divisions to stop this right about now.


11 posted on 11/03/2005 9:04:43 AM PST by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- America, we get the best government corporations can buy.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

fueled by anger over poor conditions in suburban Paris housing projects.

Maybe if these animals got a look at the suburban Algiers housing projects, they'd realize how good they have it.  Face it, you're muslim savages and nobody wants you, just try to blend in with the architecture.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

12 posted on 11/03/2005 9:04:52 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Socialism has shown to be a failure and unable to provide for people. These folks have come to expect that someone owes them something.


13 posted on 11/03/2005 9:04:54 AM PST by misterrob
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To: West Coast Conservative
Minister of Social Cohesion Jean-Louis Borloo said ... "We cannot hide the truth: that for 30 years we have not done enough," he told France-2 television.

The solution is more socialism? The Onion, right?

14 posted on 11/03/2005 9:05:40 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: West Coast Conservative

I suppose the thing to look for now is whether it spreads to other French cities (assuming they too have these heavily immigrant "no-go" areas). I admit I'm surprised it hasn't so far.


15 posted on 11/03/2005 9:06:09 AM PST by untenured (http://futureuncertain.blogspot.com)
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To: West Coast Conservative

" letting in too many immigrants over the years."
Big problem, for various reasons. But, because of France's lousy economy, there just aren't enough menial jobs for people who are breeding like rabbits, and present a sullen, unappealing appearance to the people who might hire them to dig ditches or flip halal(sp?) burgers.


16 posted on 11/03/2005 9:07:08 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: dead
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They are sending in the Frog army!!!
17 posted on 11/03/2005 9:07:43 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: penelopesire
Philippe de Villiers, who has said he wants to "stop the Islamization of France,"

Then get on your knees and ask Jesus to forgive France.

18 posted on 11/03/2005 9:08:21 AM PST by pbear8 (France is guilty)
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To: West Coast Conservative

More welfare would be my advice. They'll have to raise taxes to do it, but if even one child's life is saved...


19 posted on 11/03/2005 9:09:26 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Youngman442002

Not for the Government......If they'd only USE THEM!.........


20 posted on 11/03/2005 9:09:39 AM PST by Red Badger (Whatever happened to formulas 1 through 408?.........)
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