Posted on 11/02/2005 1:27:48 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
FYI Ping & BTTT....
The Panamanians have sovereignty over the canal. They are intelligent enough to outsource the operation of the canal to a Chinese firm; just as many American companies are doing. I for one am not that concerned by this. Indeed, I've read that the Panamanians have taken strong measures to protect the rain forests around the canal -- not because they're tree-huggers (although the rain forests there are pristine and therefore are priceless ecological treasures), but because the rain forests generate the rain the canal requires to operate. (The canal is a perpetual motion machine: the water from the lake lifts the ship in the locks; and hydroelectric power operates the locks. The canal is an astonishing piece of engineering: all electric in 1914, and operated by beautifully ergonomic controls in the form of a working scale model of the canal!)
I should mention my interest in this subject: my parents grew up in Balboa. I'm glad the canal is still in good condition. Many Zonians were concerned that the Panamanians couldn't be trusted to operate the canal. Fortunately, the Panamanians have done a good job maintaining their primary resource.
From a commercial standpoint, the Panama Canal has lost a lot of appeal because the canal cannot accommodate the current generation of container ships and oil tankers, either.
China's interest in the Canal is likely tied to manufacturing interests in northern China, which are facing increasing competition from other parts of Asia (notably India, Malaysia, and Indonesia) that lie further to the south and west. The geographic location of these nations makes them more attractive centers of manufacturing than China because they are closer to the largest consumer markets in the world -- Western Europe and the Northeastern U.S. -- via a better water route (the Suez Canal, which can handle larger ships and more of them because it is a flat canal with no lock system).
"Chinese, illegal aliens at the time, helped build the first Transcontinental Railroad. Since the purpose of the Railroad was to open a trade route to China, it seems to have worked out. The Canal and New Orleans came to dominate trade."
Huh?
"Air freight is coming along now, so that the canal isn't much of a choke point."
You entirely miss the point of the article. How long would it take to "air freight" an SSBN? Or a tanker-load of crude? Or a couple of amphibious assault ships with a few divisions of marines and armor? The canal is an absolute choke point for US strategic and military interests... all the Chinese have to do is scuttle a couple of ships at each end, and it would close the canal for months.
While it was not a good thing that Carter allowed the Canal to revert back to the Panamanians, you are correct in saying that the Canal is now of less strategic importance.
"China has absolutely zero power projection ability outside of Asia. If we wanted to take the canal by force, we could do it in a matter of hours."
Finally, something we can agree on. :)
I think it was Teddy Roosevelt who signed a 99 year lease with Panama for the Canal Zone.
Just like when we stopped Saddam Hussein from setting all those oil wells on fire during the first Gulf War.< /sarc >
Think there'll be Sunburn missles at Balboa?
Might want to check your date. Oct 31, 2005? Obviously the article was from before Jan 20 2001.
And the other hundred threads on this very same topic. If we ever find ourselves back in 1900 it will have been over for a long time.
LOL. I love the Communist apologists on FR. /s
Thank you, Jimmy Carter. And thanks for trusting North Korea, too...
Which makes me wonder what the Chinese are doing down there...
Jimmy Carter hates the USA so he gave it away.
Could the reps have stopped the Panama canal giveaway?
The "yellow peril" may exist, but it probably it is in Vancouver, B.C.
Precisely the point.
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