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Libby indicted on obstruction of justice, false statement and perjury charge - RESIGNS
http://drudgereport.com/ ^ | October 28, 2005

Posted on 10/28/2005 9:45:41 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Libby indicted on obstruction of justice, false statment and perjury charge...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beltwaywarzone; cialeak; fitz; fitzgerald; hero; indictment; judymiller; libby; liberalinquisition; liedtofbi; liedtograndjury; marthastewart2; martyr; mattcooper; obstruction; pardon; phishing; plame; politicalpersecution; timrussert
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To: mlo
You cannot have your attorney in the grand jury room with you, but you can have your attorney outside and you can go out and ask for his advice and/or guidance after ever question if you wish.

What was Libby thinking?

681 posted on 10/28/2005 5:01:21 PM PDT by OldFriend (Fitzgerald is a Lawrence Walsh wannabe)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Eliot N. FitzGerbil had Libby, tried convicted and executed in his press conference today. Then he had the gall to add Libby is innocent till proven guilty.

I actually had two people say to me today that FitzGerbil sounded "fair" in his rantings today......and they're relatives of mine.

I need my Shirley Temple doll, quick.

Leni

682 posted on 10/28/2005 5:06:37 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Bush2000

You would have thought he would be gunning for Miller since she tipped off that Islamic Charity thatFitzgerald was coming to raid their office!!!


683 posted on 10/28/2005 5:09:02 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Fitz says Plame was covert. OK Fitz, if you say so. Now, go prove it buddy.

Was Plame on the NOC list Yes or NO. And how come you did not charge Libby for that crime if she was a undercover agent?

Fitzgerald answers it!

684 posted on 10/28/2005 5:09:38 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: OldFriend
Can't one plead The Fifth Amendment in front of the Grand Jury. 124 people associated with the Clintons either pled the Fifth or left the country!!

I think you can just SAY you are going to Pleade The Fifth and you don;t even have to show up in person!! Why didn't Libby?

685 posted on 10/28/2005 5:15:02 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: MinuteGal

OMG! I don't even like Libby but I thought Fitzgerald sounded possessed!! I was LISTENING on the Radio, I wasn't watching TV! He sounded like he was foaming at the mouth!


686 posted on 10/28/2005 5:16:18 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Suzy Quzy
Possessed and obsessed.

He probably went back to his office and is still working tonight, as he is wont to do on his cases.

Leni

687 posted on 10/28/2005 5:26:45 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: OldFriend
She did something clearly illegal for personal gain.

That's a common misunderstanding, and it's my point. *She* didn't do anything illegal for personal gain. She had every right to sell her stock. She was convicted for lying about her actions even though those actions weren't themselves illegal. That's why I made this comparison in the first place.

688 posted on 10/28/2005 5:51:23 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Semi Civil Servant

You nailed all these points on the head. I totally agree. When is Bush and the Republican administration and national GOP leaders going to go on the offensive against the DimWits, Joe Wilson, and yes, Patrick Fitzgerald as well. The incredible thing is that a Republican administration, a Republican Justice dept, and Republican Congress all turned into mush when they agreed to a special prosecutor in the first place. Ashcroft recused himself (why do only Repubs recuse themselves, but never DemonRAT prosecutors or judges) then his deputy AG appointed his personal friend and crony Patrick Fitzgerald as special prosecutor. And now the for the last two years Fitzgerald has spent & wasted $22M or OUR TAXPAYER money investigating and digging for what he realized after only a month, THERE WAS NO CRIME. Only some alleged perjury acts commited by Libby after multiple grillings and testimonies.

I feel sorry for Libby, but as you said the Repubs should have been loudly accusing Wilson of being the liar he was and is, instead of trying to sneak innuendoes through the left-wing NYT and media. What a bunch of boneheads and cowards! Maybe the Repubs will finally wise up and go on offense for a change. I am sick and tired of hypocritical DimWits calling the shots and getting away with it.


689 posted on 10/28/2005 5:55:29 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Semi Civil Servant
Your post has it own thread on DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5206241

690 posted on 10/28/2005 5:56:24 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: West Coast Conservative

MSNBC orgazming: "RIVETING AND REMARKEBLE EVENT!!!"


691 posted on 10/28/2005 6:00:25 PM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: massgopguy
Well DU got its Fiztmas present. Libby is like getting underwear from Grand=Ma.

Thank you so much, massgopguy, for giving me something to laugh about today. I will be borrowing that line. It's hilarious. :)

692 posted on 10/28/2005 6:06:20 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: Suzy Quzy

I don't know, I'll check and see if you can simply not appear or plead the fifth.


693 posted on 10/28/2005 6:06:25 PM PDT by OldFriend (Fitzgerald is a Lawrence Walsh wannabe)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Not positive about the federal grand jury, but it seems you cannot plead the fifth amendment. You refuse to testify they can put you in prison for contempt. Which is what happened to Miller.

You can be granted immunity from prosecution in exchange for your testimony.

You can say, I don't recall and they can do nothing to do for that. You must say something tho, not just clam up.

694 posted on 10/28/2005 6:13:04 PM PDT by OldFriend (Fitzgerald is a Lawrence Walsh wannabe)
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To: OldFriend; Suzy Quzy
You most certainly can plead the fifth in a grand jury proceeding. Given the President's directive to cooperate with the special prosecutor, Libby's pleading the fifth would have led to his resignation/firing as Vice President Cheney's Chief of Staff. And it probably would have made an indictment on the substantive charges more likely, if Fitzgerald could have otherwise proven he knowingly passed on classified information to the press.
695 posted on 10/28/2005 6:24:59 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Bigh4u2

I just read the indictment and this is what I don't understand - if Plame was undercover and classified then according to the evidence in the indictment Libby is guilty of outing her and yet, they haven't charged Libby with that crime. That just doesn't make sense.

I wonder if the wording of the indictment is such that we are to draw the inference that she was undercover, when they know she really wasn't. I think this whole thing is screwed up. In all the evidence they are basically taking the word of reporters as factually in every instance.


696 posted on 10/28/2005 6:37:45 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: dougd
Did Libby have a legal basis to "mislead" the grand jury? What I haven't been able to find out is whether the prosecutor and/or grand jury were cleared to receive classified information

Very good point and that was my first thought. I have not seen or heard the answer to that question anywhere. If they were NOT cleared and conversations between Libby and Cheney are secret and privileged then there is no case, nada. Unfortunately that will only be made public in the trial, but by that time the damage will be done. Both trials and the U.S. constitution are quaint and out of date.

697 posted on 10/28/2005 6:41:34 PM PDT by libill (Perhaps 'New Mogadishu' is a proper name for New Orleans)
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To: drellberg
The indictment also takes Russert’s word over Libby’s regarding their 7/10 phone call. Libby claims that Russert told him that “all the reporters knew” that Plame worked at the CIA. According to Libby, Russert wanted Libby to confirm this, and it’s not difficult to imagine Russert taking this approach. Russert claims, though, that this part of the conversation never happened, and this is part of the perjury indictment against Libby...Miller did nothing with the information Libby gave her....

This is sobering -- to see the statements of partisan media ass-clowns receiving more weight than that of senior administration officials.

That said, Libby has doomed himself by blabbing to these jackals in the first place. He has brought this mess upon himself, and given the political enemy an opportunity to create turmoil for President Bush as well. For this, Libby should be ashamed. Aside from some FReepers on this and other threads, I don't feel sorry for him in the least.

698 posted on 10/28/2005 7:08:04 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (De gustibus non est disputandum.)
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To: beyond the sea
Patrick Fir=zgerald is a neduri=otic nutcase who AVOIDED the CIA connection

I felt like I was listening to a Kindergartner telling how he thinks it is very serious if Libby told a lie even if no covert CIA agent had actually been outed.

And all the while being totally oblivious to what appears to be a CIA plot to undermine the President of the United States.

Oh, and that little story about what the baseball pitcher was thinking when he hit the batter in the head ?

I would think that the first thing an "investigator" should establish is whether the batter was actually hit. Only after you know that there was an actual hit do you begin inquiring about the details.

699 posted on 10/28/2005 7:09:57 PM PDT by oldbrowser (A living, breathing constitution is a usurpation of the people's sovereignty.)
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To: West Coast Conservative; joanie-f
Prepare for another overblown "scandal" reminiscent of Watergate. We're in the wrong party!

Comment solicited, Joanie.

700 posted on 10/28/2005 7:13:28 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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