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White House warns holdouts
U.S.News.com ^ | 10/13/05 | Kenneth T. Walsh

Posted on 10/13/2005 5:47:35 PM PDT by baystaterebel

White House officials have a message for conservative Republican senators who have expressed doubt about supporting Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers.

The West Wing types argue that she will turn out to be just as conservative as President Bush says she is, and voting against her would be an embarrassment over the long term. This message is intended for holdouts including Sam Brownback of Kansas, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, and Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania.

"If Miers is confirmed and she winds up being what the president says she is, Republican senators who voted against her will look quite foolish," says a GOP insider. This could cause a backlash against these legislators from conservative Bush supporters at the grass roots.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: miers; scotus
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To: empirekin768

Miers has a fine record and certainly meets any qualification posed by the Constitution.

I stick to the Constitution not some ultra ultra imagination.


401 posted on 10/13/2005 9:34:34 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: WOSG
YOU WILL NEVER EVER GET ANYONE AS GOOD AS SANTORUM IN PA AGAIN IF YOU LET HIM LOSE THE ELECTION!!

It's his to win or lose. Stop blaming the voters.

402 posted on 10/13/2005 9:35:12 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: calex59
First, the seat that Miers might fill is a swing seat on the SC. The qulaity of the person put in that seat is crucial to the future of the country.

Second, don't put us down and call us names. You're ranting and raving about what we are doing to the base. Take a good look at yourself.

Third, this is a matter of principle. Many of us care more about conservative principle that party politics. Many of us voted for GWB for no other reason than to have him pick justices in the mold of Scalia and Thomas. It appears to me that this pick has betrayed that trust. We know that the hearing will be a kabuki theater and nothing of substance will be revealed.

Fourth, us dyed in the wool conservatives want to hold the GOP true to its conservative moorings. That is why RWR ran against Ford in 76. He lost in that year but his views prevailed and changed the world. This is the first skirmish in a new battle to hold the party to its moorings. I will try not to level personal attacks, but I believe the fight for the soul of this party is worth it.

403 posted on 10/13/2005 9:35:15 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: af_vet_1981

Do you try to undermine your father when he is at work because you do not trust him ?




Undermine? No.

Tell him he's wrong, when I feel he is wrong? Yes. And it doesn't mean I love him any less.


404 posted on 10/13/2005 9:35:34 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Dude seriously, if you don't quit being so poor I'm gonna start huckin' rocks at ya!)
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To: rbmillerjr

By invocation of the Hitler Rule you lose the debate. Thanks for playing and try again sometime.


405 posted on 10/13/2005 9:35:42 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

So the personality is more important than the party's platform?


406 posted on 10/13/2005 9:35:50 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: cherub05

You forgot one small detail.

The ultimate ruler of our country is it's citizens, for they are the one's who vote.

President Bush cannot demean or bully the people who voted for him without massive repercussions.


407 posted on 10/13/2005 9:36:34 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: tennmountainman

It is YOU who believe there is a risk not the President. Let the Constitutionally mandated process continue.


408 posted on 10/13/2005 9:36:46 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Black Tooth

Whatever


409 posted on 10/13/2005 9:37:16 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: trubluolyguy

"And they'll turn around and blame us that dared to only support him 98% of the time and not 100% of the time."

Ha! You're probably right about that. Kudos.


410 posted on 10/13/2005 9:37:20 PM PDT by empirekin768
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To: TontoKowalski
The Court was my number one voting issue.

So, are you just THRILLED! with the pick? or not?

I'm ticked off at the baggage that comes from flying the Constitution in the dark. With Democrats holding the bar at 60 instead of 50.

411 posted on 10/13/2005 9:37:39 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: trubluolyguy
Undermine? No. Tell him he's wrong, when I feel he is wrong? Yes. And it doesn't mean I love him any less.

Do you take out public ads to undermine him while people are trying to get him fired (even as he is responsible for many people's lives during a war) ?

412 posted on 10/13/2005 9:37:42 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Itzlzha

That a lotta dog for a tiny tail to wag.


413 posted on 10/13/2005 9:37:55 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

"Fourth, us dyed in the wool conservatives want to hold the GOP true to its conservative moorings. That is why RWR ran against Ford in 76. He lost in that year but his views prevailed and changed the world. This is the first skirmish in a new battle to hold the party to its moorings. I will try not to level personal attacks, but I believe the fight for the soul of this party is worth it."

That is a great post.


414 posted on 10/13/2005 9:38:38 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Gondring

This has nothing to do with "personality" and such a comment indicates the depth of understanding those who want to see the constitution process continue are arguing against.


415 posted on 10/13/2005 9:39:13 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I and others don't believe the president is doing his duty. Does the First Amendment of the Constitution grant us the freedom to speak out against his nomination? Or should we be arrested? Are we guilty of treason?


416 posted on 10/13/2005 9:39:19 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Whatever

You just proved what I suspected. No one except leftist and liberals use the term "Whatever"!!

417 posted on 10/13/2005 9:39:22 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: af_vet_1981

You must be from the DU.

Stating the Republicans are EVIL people.

Sheesh.


418 posted on 10/13/2005 9:40:25 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
I and others don't believe the president is doing his duty. Does the First Amendment of the Constitution grant us the freedom to speak out against his nomination? Or should we be arrested? Are we guilty of treason?

You are free to to do all of the above. You are so special you can even do it with Cindy Sheehan.

419 posted on 10/13/2005 9:40:52 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: WOSG
The only thing that would be REALLY galling would be a Senator who voted FOR Ginsburg to come out against Miers and try to explain the higher scrutiny needed for a Bush pick over a Clinton pick.

Unless that Senator explained that the unconstitutional filibuster interposed since Clinton nominated Ruth Buzzie has resulted in Bush nominating someone with a record which is incapable of being reasonably discerned. Tough sell, I acknowledge, but it would fly if a large enough contingent of demonrats voted against her to make it possible for her to be voted down with only a few republican votes. That's about the only scenario I see at this point for discrediting the filibuster (the demonrats would have voted against a nominee from their list). Once the filibuster is discredited, Bush can nominate Robert Bork if he wants to.

Conservatives should be trying to convince democrats that she's a bad choice, not trying to convince conservatives that she is.

420 posted on 10/13/2005 9:41:43 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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