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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: FreeReign

A kiss?


721 posted on 10/09/2005 8:56:51 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Pukin Dog
Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist

Your analysis is spot on. Bullseye. There are traitors in the Senate.

Frist is not one of them. He has a serious conservative history and voting record, and he would never have voted against a Bush nominee.

The traitors in the Senate are what made his job thankless. When you've only got a 5 (6?) vote lead and more than 6 traitors, then you're gonna hafta make some trades.

722 posted on 10/09/2005 8:57:03 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Pukin Dog

This is the best I have read so far. I'm in.


723 posted on 10/09/2005 8:57:20 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: FreeReign

I didn't know you were rooting for the Yankees, LOL!


724 posted on 10/09/2005 8:58:56 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: potlatch; devolve; PhilDragoo; bitt; Smartass; Zacs Mom

Interesting perspective.


725 posted on 10/09/2005 8:59:08 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: TheHound
I give up. You either have no position or you hide it

P.S. I read your posting history before I replied to your initial inquiry, because the inquiry was cryptic. Based on the contents of your posts, I believe you and I have similar views of the proper role of government, voters, etc.

In other words, we're more likely allies than adversaries, despite the tone of our written exchange.

726 posted on 10/09/2005 8:59:55 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Victoria Delsoul
A kiss?

...love those Halos.

727 posted on 10/09/2005 9:02:08 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

OK, LOL!


728 posted on 10/09/2005 9:03:14 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: ntnychik; potlatch
Yes it is. Lot of truth in the article!
729 posted on 10/09/2005 9:08:54 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I didn't know you were rooting for the Yankees, LOL!

Yes, but who needs 30 years of Yanakee loyalty when I can make a wager like that.

'night Victoria...

730 posted on 10/09/2005 9:10:01 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Hahaha, nighty night, FR. Sweet dreams.

Cya tomorrow.

731 posted on 10/09/2005 9:12:13 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Pukin Dog

Thank you for this post, you have put into words what I have been thinking since Meirs was nominated. If others can't see it this way, it is not our fault. At least no one can call you a Bushbot.


732 posted on 10/09/2005 9:16:35 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg

When did you see Miers hardware?


733 posted on 10/09/2005 9:18:04 PM PDT by nitejohnboy
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To: Congressman Billybob

Sir, thank you so much for taking the time to give me your reasoned, thoughtful, and very smart, response. It adds another level of much appreciated perspective.

I wish you...Safe Travel.


734 posted on 10/09/2005 9:20:35 PM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: kidd

They are all always looking to their re-election! That becomes job 1 as they sit in that big comfy desk chair. They need a shot of testosterone. Even the girls.


735 posted on 10/09/2005 9:21:22 PM PDT by nitejohnboy
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To: Cboldt

Well gee, I am supposed to research you before I respond - you elitists are sooo much better than the politicians. It has been such a wasted conversation - it started with you denegrading the GOP over money collection and wound up with you asking me to research you - at some point I expected a substant comment. Good night.


736 posted on 10/09/2005 9:21:36 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: zendari

Out-classes? Please, don't use the word "class" in the same sentence with the word "democrat". They are mutually exclusive.
When you are not held to the truth you can say anything you like. The democrats have proven that over time. The leadership stinks on ice.


737 posted on 10/09/2005 9:29:36 PM PDT by nitejohnboy
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To: Cboldt

Well please disreguard my last post then, but your reticence to state your postion just lit off all that I find wrong with the consevative movement.


738 posted on 10/09/2005 9:35:44 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: Pukin Dog
"It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate."

If anyone wishes to question this IMPORTANT point....we did it in Oklahoma (against the GOP endorsed candidates), why can't you?

739 posted on 10/09/2005 9:36:48 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Proud Member of the Water Bucket Brigade - Merry MOOSEMUSS!)
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To: TheHound
Well gee, I am supposed to research you before I respond

No. That would be unreasonable. I suggestede d you research me because you asked about me.

you elitists are sooo much better than the politicians.

Most politicians are elitists, IMO. I may or may not be an elitist from your point of view. My self-opinion is that I don't think I am priviledged over you or anybody else.

It has been such a wasted conversation - it started with you denegrading the GOP over money collection

Oh. Oops. Wasted conversation. it started with your "What are you trying to say here? I am a Republican. what the hay are you?"

If you represent the GOP, then you have my criticsim and sugestions, but not my money. And a nifty thing is, I told you what I expected so you could get my money. That ball is in the GOP's court.

at some point I expected a substant comment. Good night.

If you ask a more narrow and direct question, I am apt to provide a substantive comment. I'm not a prolific poster, so slogging through my history will easily yield substance.

Sleep tight.

740 posted on 10/09/2005 9:41:43 PM PDT by Cboldt
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