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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: All
Hey, get off the dogs back! At least he had the courage to come back using his old name, he could have avoided all the sarcasm by changing his name.

Welcome back Dog(just don't do it again!)

121 posted on 10/09/2005 4:00:22 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Freedom is not America's gift to man, Freedom is GOD'S gift to mankind!....G.W.Bush)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

"This conservative infighting over Miers is wearing thin and only emboldens the rats."

and that's what tickes me off the most. Just watched Kristol on Fox. Who the hell does he think he is? It's obvious that he, for one, is just pissed because he wasn't consulted. Many of the hard-line conservatives have made asses of themselves, and unfortunately, the rest of us by association. They knee-jerked like democrats and spoke like moonbats. Of course the yare allowed to disagree, but 'team players' don't act like they have this week. Damn them for degrading the Republican party.


122 posted on 10/09/2005 4:00:42 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: flashbunny

I do a lot of lurking, and your attempts to pick a fight are infantile. You sound like my four year old. How about discussing the ideas in the post?


123 posted on 10/09/2005 4:00:46 PM PDT by Principled
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To: streetpreacher; Pukin Dog

Well he has repented, and is now free to sin some more. I don't like the rumor mongering though. That is sinning some more. I got some stuff on Miers actually, which may or may not be reliable, third or forth hand. Would I ever post it? No, not ever. Don't bother to ask what it is, or whether it is good or bad.


124 posted on 10/09/2005 4:00:51 PM PDT by Torie
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To: pollyannaish

" He is also very fair about putting it in the title so you don't have to read it—even by accident."

If he was fair, he'd put this in general / chat or bloggers/ personal. Where is opus is.

Instead, it's in news / activism.

Why do you think that is?

Oh wait, asking questions is disrespectful.


125 posted on 10/09/2005 4:01:00 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thanks so much for this post. I had quit coming to the forum because it was so depressing to see us guaranteeing a 2006 Democratic victory. Thanks for the information. Denco


126 posted on 10/09/2005 4:01:23 PM PDT by denco (denco)
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To: Moonman62
I think the story given to Pukin Dog is just a big pitcher of Kool-Aid.


127 posted on 10/09/2005 4:01:35 PM PDT by counterpunch (Save the GOP - withdraw Miers now)
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To: Pukin Dog

A pretty persuasive argument, PD.


128 posted on 10/09/2005 4:02:04 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: All

A mild re-iteration from above.

With Owens withdrawing herself, the list of FR rockstars narrows. You have to ask yourself which side would be willing to expose a nominee's historical faux pas. If Luttig had a nanny tax problem in his past, do you really think MoveOn would decide that it was not worth destroying a man's career over?

GW Bush said HM is the most qualified candidate. I interpreted this to include confirmability as a qualification in the context of Bush having called the RINOs. Now it becomes clear the meaning of qualified could have been broader. There may have been vetting problems with JRB or Luttig. It really, truly doesn't take much.

Clarence Thomas was clean and the left manufactured a vetting problem for him. Had they not been distracted by Cindy Sheehan (I often wonder if Bush took a long vacation for this very reason) they would have been far far deeper into Roberts' adoptions.

HM has been vetted clean. That, as much as Bush's knowledge of her philosophy, may have been her most powerful qualification.


129 posted on 10/09/2005 4:02:09 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Pukin Dog

Bush needs to adopt Lyndon Johnsons addage, "I like to have a man's pecker in my pocket". Bush probably has enough intel of these pricks to scare them into giving an honest up or down hearing and vote on a candidate he puts forth. Nixon said it perhaps better in, "Grab them by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow."


130 posted on 10/09/2005 4:02:13 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Pukin Dog

bump


131 posted on 10/09/2005 4:02:25 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: streetpreacher; Pukin Dog
Thanks! for the info and Thanks for returning...

..You're in good company with your assessment.

Brit Hume....just 5 minutes ago! said essentially the same thing!..

..He named one specifically, and said she had too much history/baggage that would have been held against her.

I believe you!

132 posted on 10/09/2005 4:02:35 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Pukin Dog

so you are telling us that Spector thinks Miers will NOT vote to overturn Roe? is that what your source is telling you?


133 posted on 10/09/2005 4:02:39 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Pukin Dog

Thanks, Dog, the reasons you mentioned do make sense. Even though it's an honor to serve on the Supreme Court, most people and their families could not withstand the grueling confirmation process. The vitriol in our country is probably 10 times worse than during the Bork and Clarence Thomas hearings, and not many people would put themselves through anything like that. These dems could make Mother Teresa look like a cad

I was certainly upset with the President, but your post lays out rationale he may have used when deciding on Miers.


134 posted on 10/09/2005 4:02:41 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: Principled

"I do a lot of lurking"

Probably a good idea.

"How about discussing the ideas in the post?"

how about discussing the bigger idea?

Oh wait, that's infantile. Not posting an opus 3 days ago, not leaving, and then announcing in news / activism that you're back.


135 posted on 10/09/2005 4:02:43 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: pollyannaish
Look, all I want, is to crush the Democrats. That is all I want. My 'opus' as some are calling it, only divided us further, and that was wrong. When I got this information, I thought it was only fair to share it, because it changed everything that I had written on the subject up to now. Except for silly posts (which are usually under the influence of beer) I only write stuff here to help keep things positive, or share information I think people can use. When my information is not welcome here, I wont provide it. Other than that, this place is incredibly addictive and thanks to Delta, I have lots of time on my hands.
136 posted on 10/09/2005 4:02:49 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

That's what some of us were trying to tell you to start with. IF you would have stopped ranting for a few days and did a little research, you would have saved yourself some embarrassment. Knee-jerk reactions should be left for the left.


137 posted on 10/09/2005 4:02:59 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: flashbunny

yada, yada, yada. You could have made your point in your first post and then moved on to commenting on the substance of the writing. Instead, YOU have been obsessing on PD's number of opuses.

Now, you are doing the very thing you accuse PD of, making it about you.


138 posted on 10/09/2005 4:03:06 PM PDT by conservativebabe (proud to be a vitriolic hyperconservative)
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To: Torie
If I want interesting, I'll read a Tom Clancy novel. This president is playing his games with the Constitution... again. He should find a better past time.
139 posted on 10/09/2005 4:03:17 PM PDT by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Pukin Dog!

You and Michael Barone. People whose analysis I trust.
140 posted on 10/09/2005 4:03:25 PM PDT by Bush 100 Percent
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