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'Bikinis and booze caused bombings'
The Australian ^ | October 10, 2005 | Simon Kearney

Posted on 10/09/2005 1:53:11 PM PDT by Dundee

'Bikinis and booze caused bombings'

AUSTRALIANS had declared a moral war on Muslims in Indonesia with their drinking and skimpy clothes in Bali, the eldest brother of three of those responsible for the 2002 attacks said yesterday.

Muhammed Khozin told The Australian at his home in Tenggulun, East Java, that his community didn't care about the October 1 Bali bombings because they were not linked to people from his village.

Mr Khozin's younger brothers Amrozi and Mukhlas were sentenced to death and Ali Imron to life imprisonment for their roles in the attacks on the Sari Club and Paddy's bar, which killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.

Mr Khozin said the behaviour of Westerners in his country was to blame for the radicalism adopted by his brothers.

"Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry. Don't do that when visiting a country with a Muslim majority," he said. "I'm sorry, Australian culture makes war on morality. They come to Bali with bikinis, they make war on morality. Not physical war, morality war. Respect the culture and religion of Indonesia."

His son, 19-year-old university student Afif, said there would be no end to terrorism while Australians continued going to Bali and behaving without respect for Muslim culture.

He believed the first Bali bombing committed by his uncles was justified because it discouraged tourists in Bali. "If Muslims died in that action, the Muslims will go to heaven," he said.

Afif said Muslims and Christians would only live side by side when Christians learned to respect Muslim culture.

Mr Khozin runs the Al-Islaman boarding school in the village that he founded with his late father 30 years ago. Such schools, known as pesantren, are seen as a breeding ground for terrorists.

He said if Canberra wanted to stop radicalism in Indonesia, it should teach Australians to be more respectful of Islam.

Moreover, Australia could help fund facilities at Islamic schools like his, which are mainly in poor areas and are under-resourced, to help better educate Muslims in Indonesia.

"Please give to us because maybe that's the way to make the relationship with Indonesia and Australia better," he said.

He taught his students the concept of "dakwah", which means to confront people who do things that are wrong and tell them to stop.

But he did not subscribe to the view of radicals that they should act to physically erase something they did not agree with.

His brothers had a different view of Islam to his but he believed they were still good people. He called on the Indonesian Government to return them to their community, where they could be rehabilitated.

"The community have a dream. If Amrozi came back here, he will do things like that."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bali; indonesia; islam; jihad; modesty; rop; wot
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To: Caipirabob
the behavior of Westerners in his country was to blame for the radicalism adopted by his brothers.

He's a liar.

Bali is statistically 93 percent Hindu.

Even during Ramadan (maybe especially during Ramadan) the local Indonesian techno clubs in Jakarta are packed to the rafters until 5:30AM, 3,000 people or more, with not a Westerner in sight (except me and a couple others).

I will only say that I witnessed a whole lot of non-Islamic activity in those places, with no Western influence whatsoever.

61 posted on 10/09/2005 3:02:12 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Dundee

I'm guessing they bought their alcohol right there in Bali.


62 posted on 10/09/2005 3:02:27 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Dundee

If there is anything worth defending it is most certainly booze and bikinis.


63 posted on 10/09/2005 3:03:45 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (GO CARDINALS !!)
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To: Dundee
Afif said Muslims and Christians would only live side by side when Christians learned to respect Muslim culture.

I think he better re-read the Koran. Living side by side with Christians isn't the game plan. - tom

64 posted on 10/09/2005 3:05:17 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: mrsparkle
I want to see Ann Coulter in a bikini :-)

As much as I admire Ann, and have read all her books, I think you'd be disappointed in seeing her b**b configuration. My favorite shot of Ann is where she's looking through the sights a Berretta 9mm, probably targeting a lefty. If I knew how to post a .jpg, and knew HTML, I'd put it up. (I'm an IBM AS/400 RPG-type former techie).

65 posted on 10/09/2005 3:07:08 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: JRios1968

Reciprocity is the answer....You trash my Bible at the Airport in Jeddah, I burn your KORAN thingy at Kennedy in NYC....Fair is Fair......Women in your country wear some funny stuff.....ALL your women do same here, EVEN when you blow millions of oil money in Vegas....And certainly no booze while you are here.


66 posted on 10/09/2005 3:08:08 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: Drew68; JRios1968
When in Iraq I met a Jordanian contractor on his way to Bahrain for "holiday" (wink wink, nudge smirk).

The place is notorious, and I think Dubai has a similar rep.

At least they've found someplace closer to home for "recreation", I got tired of seeing drunken Saudis and Iranians stumbling down the streets of Bangkok with their floozies in tow.

67 posted on 10/09/2005 3:08:13 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Dundee
Muhammed Khozin told The Australian at his home in Tenggulun, East Java, that his community didn't care about the October 1 Bali bombings because they were not linked to people from his village.

And yet, the tourists weren't "linked to your village" either, Khozin, but you feel they deserve to die for wearing swimsuits and drinking far from your home...

"Alcohol, bikinis, that kind of thing makes Muslims angry.

Bombings make *us* angry.

Don't do that when visiting a country with a Muslim majority," he said. "I'm sorry, Australian culture makes war on morality. They come to Bali with bikinis, they make war on morality. Not physical war, morality war. Respect the culture and religion of Indonesia."

Just like you're respecting the culture of the West? Got it...

Afif said Muslims and Christians would only live side by side when Christians learned to respect Muslim culture.

But not vice versa, obviously...

68 posted on 10/09/2005 3:08:28 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Certified pedantic coxcomb)
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To: Capt. Tom

He knows the Koran. He's just betting that you don't.


69 posted on 10/09/2005 3:10:29 PM PDT by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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To: litehaus

Sounds fair to me!


70 posted on 10/09/2005 3:14:13 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Serving fresh wit everyday, for 36 years.)
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To: Dundee
In the end, is this the only Bikini they'll understand?


71 posted on 10/09/2005 3:14:57 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad...Jihadn't.)
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To: magslinger
He knows the Koran. He's just betting that you don't.

And he knows he can deceive us infidels with God's (Allah's) blessing). - tom

72 posted on 10/09/2005 3:27:23 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Cobra64
Most fantasies don't live up to the hype but they are fun nonetheless :)


73 posted on 10/09/2005 3:31:47 PM PDT by mrsparkle
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To: Drew68

"these would be strikingly beautiful and very inexpensive Russian prostitutes"


How did you know they were inexpensive? :)


74 posted on 10/09/2005 3:32:41 PM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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To: Dundee
They're getting a slight glimmer of the true picture but they still have a way to go

Bikini Atoll, 1946

75 posted on 10/09/2005 3:34:03 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: Cobra64
If bikinis are mentioned, there needs to be an obligatory picture.

Sorry, no photos of bikinis, but here's one of a thong...

Mark

76 posted on 10/09/2005 3:38:52 PM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: MarkL

Wow, Monica's dropped some weight!


77 posted on 10/09/2005 3:40:20 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: angkor
I will only say that I witnessed a whole lot of non-Islamic activity in those places, with no Western influence whatsoever.

You are sooo correct.

Why else would a freak like Michael jackons be compelled to move to Bahrain? It wasn't for "straight" sex...

78 posted on 10/09/2005 3:47:51 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: angkor
The place is notorious, and I think Dubai has a similar rep.

Yes it does. I've been there too. Dubai, Bahrain and Jounieh, Lebanon all seem to be vying for "Party Capitol" of the Middle East.

Dubai is awesome!

79 posted on 10/09/2005 3:58:03 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: MarkL
Hey buddy. No pictures of The Hildabeast are permitted on FR. LOL

(sorry, I couldn't resist a "Beast" sting).

Maybe JimRob might want to use this as part of his quarterly marketing campaign.

80 posted on 10/09/2005 4:01:51 PM PDT by Cobra64
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