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READ MY LIPS: THOMAS AND SCALIA
Me | 10-7-02 | Me

Posted on 10/07/2005 8:51:48 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla

Don't you remember the utter let-down when elder Bush broke the fundamental promise he made, "No new taxes"?

The promise was not merely a bow to the Laffer curve, it was an emotional and pyschological statement to the many people in this country who still believe in constitutional goverment, and who knew that taxation was the means to undermine constitutional government, liberty and freedom, to put it another way.

The younger Bush promised a Thomas or Scalia for the same reasons: to tell the believers in constitutional government that supporting him would mean a definitive change in the jurisprudence of this country, jurisprudence which adhered to the basic concepts in our Constitution, not to a sort of current intellectual church of what's happening now.

In both cases, there was an even deeper issue, the issue of integrity. Integrity is the first principle of conservatism. Integrity means an unflinching openness to the facts and faithful adherence to principle.

"No new taxes," "Thomas and Scalia."

Unlike the Left, conservatives usually have the integrity to call out their own, regardless of political cost. The subtle political benefit of integrity is that there are so many people (conservatives) who vote for the politician who is actually honest.

Now, it is not a matter of calling out one of our own. It is a matter of calling out a charlatan, who pretended to be one of our own.


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KEYWORDS: elitism; harrietmiers; lookatme; runyourself; seminarposter; snob; supremecourt; supremevanity; vanitypost; worthlessvanity
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To: Petronski

Like I said, your showing your agenda; it's an easy question. The fact that you are too disengenuous to answer proves my point.


321 posted on 10/08/2005 7:09:56 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: KingKongCobra

Was never banned. That's a ridiculous thing to say. I'm a troll because I don't like the Mier's pick? That all you got?


322 posted on 10/08/2005 7:10:39 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Bush haters are insane.)
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To: Cboldt

Because the gang won't agree to it.


323 posted on 10/08/2005 7:10:49 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

bttt


324 posted on 10/08/2005 7:11:41 AM PDT by meema (I am not an elitist, and have been a conservative traditional Republican all my life.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Game, set, match.

Too bad this isn't tennis. If I recall, it turned out that Justice Roberts also was not a member of the Federalist Society. Guess you'd like him impeached right away before he does any damage.

325 posted on 10/08/2005 7:11:48 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard; Nephi
"The display of such an embarrassing thought "

And I thought Nephi expressed himself/herself very well. Certainly captured EXACTLY what I am thinking too.

326 posted on 10/08/2005 7:12:20 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Howlin

I don't want a defeat of conservative politicians, and that's what Bush is on his way in doing by his virtually complete abandonment of his base.

Your suggestion of "just leave the party" is what will guarantee a defeat, because I am not the only one angry with Bush.

There are a lot of conservative republican voters who are not happy with him.


327 posted on 10/08/2005 7:12:36 AM PDT by Sometimes A River (Serving on a Meals-on-Wheels program is NOT a qualification for a SC nominee. Call your Senators!)
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To: Cboldt

You do understand that the Perpetually Pi$$ed Off sat home in 2000 and 2004, don't you?


328 posted on 10/08/2005 7:13:14 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Mr. Thorne

Lots of bloodlust this week; and if you notice, it's not coming from the realists on this forum.


329 posted on 10/08/2005 7:16:04 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Acts 2:38
and that's what Bush is on his way in doing by his virtually complete abandonment of his base.

He hasn't abandoned his base; his base is still waiting to see about this woman; the unappeasables are the ones who have abandoned the party.

And I said "just leave the party" because I'm sick of sitting here watching you all blackmail the GOP with your votes.

Quite simply put, you cannot be counted on.

330 posted on 10/08/2005 7:18:55 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Name calling it seems, is in the ear of the hearer. "Calling me insane, huh?" LOL!!! first time I ever heard of a Freeper finding their own tag line offensive. I am hardly qualified to diagnose your mental health, one way or the other, but even as a layman on the subject, it seems clear that your reaction doesn't signify robust mental health.

You are definately not alone in your assessments, but neither are nuts in the asylums who assess themselves to be Napoleon, alone. They usually outnumber the attendants.

Bring it on pitbull-my chihuahua Brandy will be gnawing your toes off and devouring them like they were good.

I never thought of you as a newbie, but since you bring it up, what was your previous user name and why was you banned?

The system Moderators want to know.

FreeGards


331 posted on 10/08/2005 7:24:15 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Show me a liberal or RINO and I'll show you a head & heart, fit for nothing but cracking walnuts.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Or she could turn out like George W. Bush .Do nothing on illegal Immigration ,Campaign finance reform or abortion or authorize the government to take over Health care along with prescripion drugs


332 posted on 10/08/2005 7:25:54 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Oh, Questions? Isn't that what the hearings are supposed to be about?

Miers is nominated, it took place and can't be erased from history. The only thing that can happen now is that she gets destroyed by the Republicans before the hearings, by the Democrats during the hearings, or by uncovered information that comes out in the meantime. None of those is good for the Republican's future.
Whether she withdraws under pressure or fails in the hearings it is bad for the Republican party in the next elections and for Bush in all of his remaining picks this term. It won't take to much more of what is going on to insure that Dem's get to pick the nominees in '09 to '13.

Republicans have not been asking questions, they have been weeping and wailing while attacking Miers and Bush with sharp knives.

A strong Republican party would get the next 4 picks on the court. A weak Republican party will be lucky to get one more. If Bush is weakened by his own party, there is little chance of him getting another pick. The libs on the court will pull a Rhenquist thinking the next pres will be Dem. If Republicans remain strong, we could get another pick rather quickly because a justice with health issues would not see any benefit to hanging on.

The Twain quote is totally applicable because I haven't heard a single attack yet that indicates the attacker is looking beyond the end of their nose. Political strategy should involve 2, 5, 10 and 20 year strategies yet people can't even hold their water 4 weeks for the hearings to start. Very strategic...not!
333 posted on 10/08/2005 7:26:18 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Never banned. I don't find my tagline offensive. When I'm told that I'm starting to resemble my tagline, I take offense. You were clearing implying I was starting to act insane. Why, because I don't like the Mier's pick?

Right, you're not qualified to diagnosed anyone's mental health, but I can see that doesn't stop you from trying.

None of your business what my previous username was. I owe you no explanation.

334 posted on 10/08/2005 7:29:33 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Bush haters are insane.)
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To: Howlin

Uh, I never "blackmailed" anyone.

You made the charge. Show me where I did, or apologize.

On the one hand, you're telling people who are angry about this to "leave the party" then you say only a "true fool wants defeat."

The solution is to get the people in power to act like conservatives, which they obviously haven't.

You say we are "unnapeasable." I agree there are people who have the attitude of "give me 100% of everything I want or else."

They were never supporters to begin with.

FOr the most part, people are are mad at Bush aren't that, because we've supported this guy for 5+ years.


335 posted on 10/08/2005 7:29:55 AM PDT by Sometimes A River (Serving on a Meals-on-Wheels program is NOT a qualification for a SC nominee. Call your Senators!)
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To: Howlin

And, don't say that I am "unnapeasable" b/c if Bush had of chosen a proven strict constructionist, a "known commodity" we wouldn't even be having this convo.


336 posted on 10/08/2005 7:33:56 AM PDT by Sometimes A River (Serving on a Meals-on-Wheels program is NOT a qualification for a SC nominee. Call your Senators!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"We just don't know enough yet."

That pretty much says it, We can not be 100% sure about any nominee. Remember assume makes an ass out of U and Me.


337 posted on 10/08/2005 7:35:54 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

LOL! Please, for your own sake, go TAKE the pills your Doctor prescribed and TAKE my advice-stop TAKING yourself so seriousely.


338 posted on 10/08/2005 7:43:01 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Show me a liberal or RINO and I'll show you a head & heart, fit for nothing but cracking walnuts.)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
You have no say in who the President nominates. To think otherwise is the height of arrogance.

You had no say in who Clinton nominated.

You had no say in who Bush 41 nominated.

You had no say in who Reagan nominated.

The President was elected (with or without your vote) and that earns HIM the right to nominate who HE wants.

He told voters that he would nominate someone in the mold of a Scalia or Thomas. The voters elected him. End of story.

I just love so-called conservatives that want to Bork one of their own based on no knowledge whatsoever.

We are the ideology of logic and reason --- not the emotional garbage spewed here.

339 posted on 10/08/2005 7:47:35 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: wolfcreek

Good one there wolfcreek.

Just curious: Did you name yourself after WolfCreek pass in southern Colorado that has killed more snowplow operators than all the deaths in all the wars this nation has ever fought?


340 posted on 10/08/2005 7:52:29 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Show me a liberal or RINO and I'll show you a head & heart, fit for nothing but cracking walnuts.)
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