Posted on 10/04/2005 2:49:20 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
Oklahoma bomber
had jihad material
Documents found in apartment of student who blew himself up
By Jon Dougherty
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
An Oklahoma University student who killed himself by detonating a bomb strapped to his body outside a packed stadium over the weekend was a "suicide bomber" in possession of "Islamic jihad" materials, according to a new report.
Joel Henry Hinrichs III, 21, an engineering major at the school blew himself up outside OU's football stadium during Saturday night's game against Kansas State. Doug Hagmann, a seasoned investigator, told WND he was informed by multiple reliable law-enforcement sources familiar with the investigation into the incident that authorities recovered a "significant amount" of "jihad" materials, as well as Hinrichs' computer.
Hagmann also said those same sources indicated police and federal agents "had pulled additional explosives from [Hinrichs'] house," including triacetone triperoxide, or TATP, "homemade explosive [that is] very potent but relatively easily manufactured."
TATP was also used in the July mass transit bombings in London, CNN reported, and was used by attempted bomber Richard Reid, who packed his shoes with the compound in an unsuccessful attempt to destroy a U.S.-bound American Airlines flight in December 2001.
The confiscated jihad documents "referenced bomb-making manuals and that type of thing," Hagmann said, who added Hinrichs' apartment in Norman, Okla., is "located near the Islamic Society."
A phone at the Islamic Society of Norman went unanswered yesterday. Also, there was no response to an e-mail inquiry by press time.
Hagmann reported his findings on his website.
WorldNetDaily reported earlier that officials carted away a huge cache of explosives from Hinrichs' apartment. Police were overheard telling residents it would take "several trips and could take up to 24 hours" to remove it all, according to the Daily Oklahoman. A canister trailer used for detonating or transporting potentially explosive material was being used to haul items away.
University officials have shrugged off reports Hinrichs was anything other than a disturbed student who acted alone.
"We know that he has had what I would call emotional difficulties in the past. There is certainly no evidence at this point which points to any other kind of motivation other than his personal problems," said University President David Boren over the weekend.
In a joint statement, the FBI's Oklahoma bureau chief, Salvador Hernandez, U.S. Attorney John Richter and OU Police Chief Elizabeth Woolen said, "At this point, we have no information that suggests that there is any additional threat posed by others related to this incident."
FBI spokesman Gary Johnson told WND he couldn't add anything, other than the investigation is ongoing.
His agency has been joined in the investigation by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms; the Joint Terrorism Task Force; the University of Oklahoma Police Department; the Norman Police Department; and the Cleveland County Sheriff's Office.
Official accounts say Hinrichs detonated an explosive device while seated on a bench outside Cross Hall, a university science building about 100 yards from the stadium.
Some 84,000 people were inside watching the game at the time of the explosion. Officials say it did not appear Hinrichs attempted to enter the venue.
Attacks inevitable?
While it is too soon to know whether the Hinrichs incident was isolated or part of a larger scheme to launch suicide attacks in the U.S. similar to those in Great Britain earlier this year and those that are a regular occurrence in Iraq, experts believe it is only a matter of time before such attacks do occur in U.S. cities.
Bruce Newsome, a terrorism researcher at the Rand Corporation, a noted think tank, told ABC News shortly after the London bombings the four-man plot carried out there is a "likely model for future U.S. attacks."
He said the four men used for the attack were clean: no criminal records, did not show up on any terrorism watch lists, and were not part of any extremist activities like Hinrichs.
That makes tracking such attackers virtually impossible, Newsome pointed out.
And, in Iraq last week, a woman pushed her way into a line of men at an army recruitment center before detonating a bomb she carried. The last time women were used in suicide attacks was during the war in Iraq in 2003, when two women in a car one of them pregnant detonated a device, killing three soldiers, the BBC reported.
I think the point is that when you see a story of obvious news value 100% ignored by major media, it adds credibility to the assumption that other events of possible terrorist-related activity which were eventually explained away could in fact have been similarly squelched.
This story will end with this guy being a depressed sick person who wanted to kill himself by blowing himself up, and who had a backpack with more explosives which he did not detonate which was later detonated by the police but subsequently un-occurred and did not happen.
I will add one thing - if this kid had gotten onto the field at halftime, gone to the center of the field with no one anywhere near, and killed himself (bomb or not), it WOULD be on the national news, and it would be obvious the motive was suicide since there was no one within say 30 years or whatever (hypothetical). The MSM likes dramatic public suicides, especially if they involve flyover country devices like guns and bombs. Guns are bad, bombs are bad, bomb instructions on the internet are bad, etc....
Instead there is an event much more suspicious in nature, with the obvoius question of terrorist intent, and the media say NOTHING.
This is being discussed on Michael Savage program now.
Bump.
Have you heard about this? MSM not reporting...
Freeper posted this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1496731/posts
Oklahoma's Channel 9 is picking up the story.
TATP is shock sensitive and very unstable. While easy to make, it is also easy to spatter yourself. Richard Reid's shoe bomb used a TATP detonator mixed with a more substantial PETN explosive.
Yes, I have. That very very long thread has lots of information about this on it.
The graphic concept is misleading.
Reason being that Islamic terrorists are far more likely to infiltrate over the northern border than the southern border.
While the appearance may be superficially similar, the Islamic terrorist is far more likely to speak English than Spanish.
Fact is that most Islamists would have no indigenous support group in Mexico and would stick out like a sore thumb. But they would find entry into Canada a relatively simple matter and be able to affiliate with numerous communities once in-country.
Accordingly, for the purpose of controlling terrorism, the security of our northern border is more important than the southern border.
The die has spoken.
Yes and Yes, as usual.....
What is it about those two words together that make it so hard to put together a comprehensible thought?
There was an outstanding Savage program last night with this as the main issue. The guest host was Rick .. eh... my apologies to him! Excellent deep voice. Regardless, he brought up this entire matter, including the Islamic material. People were not a bit stunned that the media blacked it out. No surprises.
It got me thinking. People I've talked with 'on the street'. They don't buy everything the government says either. Very few do. There is an unusually high percentage of pro-establishment-on-steroid types here on the FR. It's artificial, causing the FR to lose touch with the street in some ways. And it's the street that counts.
"Why do people still believe WND? I cannot remember the last time they were correct about anything."
Well you can't take this coup away from WND. They stuck to their guns, and local people there are backing them up that there was, indeed, an explosion there. The rest of the media went AWOL. Even most of talk radio went AWOL.
This one particular point is sourced. I checked his website. He was not misquoted. This report is accurate. So guess what? You are incorrect, because this report is correct. If it's a hoax, it would be a hoax by the source. Show me where WND is incorrect in THIS report? Then please explain why you slandered our old friends who helped the FR get recognized and got audited by the Clintonista.
"The fact that this has been buried so blatantly adds great credibility to my long-held belief that other newsworthy items were buried as well, at least as far back as the mid-90's."
Bingo! That's one reason why I've been hammering this so hard. We conspiracy theorists have been chased around with a lot of tinfoil for a lot of years, and guess what? This forum was founded by conspiracy theorists. We can rub their noses and wipe our shoes on this one.
It's conspiracy theorists who have the real dirt on the Clintons and rats in general. And Able Danger re-opens the Ron Brown can of worms too. One man lost his clearance in Able Danger, for all to see. But in the Ron Brown Crash, four forensics specialists were drummed out of the military, and one of them [Kathleen Janoski] was even threatened with the death penalty.
Combine Able Danger with the OKC Suicide Bomber, and the tinfoil squad has it's hands full. I'd even say they've been getting a little demoralized lately.
"But in the Ron Brown Crash, four forensics specialists were drummed out of the military, and one of them [Kathleen Janoski] was even threatened with the death penalty."
How many of them are still alive?
They were all alive five years later, and on the five year anniversary, all of them stood by what they said. As for any recent deaths, no idea. A book came out recently about it and promoted guess where? WND. And critized where? Here on the FR by the usual crowd.
Thanks for thr links Cindy.
You're welcome kimosabe.
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