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Tour Boat Overturns in Adirondack NY Lake; Numerous Fatalities Reported
Fox News ^ | October 2, 2005 | Fox News

Posted on 10/02/2005 1:59:20 PM PDT by CedarDave

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To: maxwellp
It was a perfect day here.

Warrensburg is in the Adirondack Mountains.

So is Queensbury. :-)

What an awful thing.

141 posted on 10/02/2005 4:43:20 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: andyandval

Hi This is so sad. Just hearing about it now. Was'nt there talk this summer about the lake being way too crowded and a ban on wave runners too close to shore?


142 posted on 10/02/2005 4:53:27 PM PDT by andyssister
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To: OldFriend
When I was young I spent lots of time on Lake Erie. My dad sailed. The Coast Guard routinely rescued folks who got in over their heads (literally) with the infamous Lake Erie squalls.
143 posted on 10/02/2005 4:58:29 PM PDT by keats5
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To: pollywog

It was a pleasure cruise. Life jackets are there but people don't wear them on the ride. Like the Maid of the Mist under Niagara Falls.


144 posted on 10/02/2005 4:59:48 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: LdSentinal


Looks like a nice boat but not something I would be keen on taking a tour in.
145 posted on 10/02/2005 5:03:44 PM PDT by rs79bm
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids

Surprised the press is not calling it "Lake George Bush". Afterall, it's all Bush's fault.


146 posted on 10/02/2005 5:05:36 PM PDT by rs79bm
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To: HairOfTheDog

>>but there isn't anyone that can swim long fully clothed without a lot of survival training<<

It isn't that tough as long as you don't panic, which is what kills virtually everyone in the water. Anyone can drownproof fully clothed for days if they need to. Bob up and down in the water, relax to go down, one stroke to come up for air, and you will die of thirst before you get tired.

I think what happened was people got caught under the boat and paniced. The thing is, as soon as you see the boat going down, you must get into the water.


147 posted on 10/02/2005 5:12:40 PM PDT by 1L
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To: 1L

If any were handicapped it would make it harder though.


148 posted on 10/02/2005 5:26:46 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: pollywog
In our day and age, to have that many seniors on a boat WITHOUT every single one WEARING a ZIPPED life vest is INSANE!!!!

Nagin would have had them all tucked in safely in their life vests, even on a lazy warm fall day.

149 posted on 10/02/2005 5:31:11 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
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To: rs79bm

Can we please stop with the jokes on serious threads...21 people died today.


150 posted on 10/02/2005 5:33:53 PM PDT by Dog
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To: alisasny

"If you don't know the area you shouldn't comment as if you do."

Can you say Landlocked Salmon? I never caught one but LG is one of the few lakes that has them.

Perhaps you would like to address the issues I raised rather than launching into ad hominems?

1) The boat that is pictured is poorly designed and constructed - the deck is even with the top of the gunwhale and with the addition of glass panels, it becomes more top heavy.

2) The boat pictured is too small for that many passengers.
I imagine that these tours were not free and I imagine that 50 people paid more than 49. There are greedy people everwhere.

3) You keep repeating in your posts that this was a freak accident. There is no such thing as freak accidents on the water - just stupidity in anticipating what can happen on the water.

4) Nothing personal - you are right about passengers never wearing life preservers but very wrong about boating accidents. This accident happened close to shore in calm conditions and there is nothing freakish about the reported wakes which at worst are far better than winds that occur every week.


151 posted on 10/02/2005 5:34:03 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: one more state
Our news agencies including Fox aren't quite up to par on any story. Give them about a month to get to the truth.

"A month"? H*ll, we've given them years, and they still don't have the truth on stories like OKC and Flight 800.

152 posted on 10/02/2005 5:35:22 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Are you the net nanny here too? Your the self appointed voice of approved thought for FR or the whole friggin Web?
153 posted on 10/02/2005 5:36:14 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage

Nope.... just a member of the forum that posts what she thinks. Like you.


154 posted on 10/02/2005 5:38:57 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: CedarDave; HairOfTheDog

And as for your life jacket remark, life jackets are not required to be worn,
nor are they regularly worn on boats of this size.

Your take?




EVERY Coast Guard personnel
be it Regular, Reserve, Auxiliary
or Civilian Employees are required to
wear a PFD when on a Coast Guard
or Coast Guard Auxiliary
vessel underway.

I hear the bar broadcasts up here in Oregon.

Last week a skipper of a charter boat lost his life when his vessel sunk.

He tried crossing the bar at Winchester Bay,
despite Coast Guard radio warnings not to.

He wasn't wearing a PFD eihter.

http://www.cfvsea.com

Webmaster and Plank Owner
Commercial Fishing Vessel
Safety Examiners Association


155 posted on 10/02/2005 5:40:30 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (SEMPER PARATUS -- ALWAYS READY)
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To: ovrtaxt
Hair of the Dog reams everybody for what she deems bad humour or immature thought yet lives in the land of Hobbit holes.

Go figure.

156 posted on 10/02/2005 5:40:34 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage

The whole friggin web, I hope! HairOfTheDog is nothing if she's not cool. And she ain't nothing. :-)


157 posted on 10/02/2005 5:41:30 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Crossing the Astoria Bar is a whole nother matter from a lake cruise. Name one instance where life jackets are typically worn on a tour boat. I can see people clamouring about it, but right now it just isn't done.


158 posted on 10/02/2005 5:44:13 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Well, crossing a bar and riding on a charter ought to be 2 different things, one would hope. I think the one type of pleasure craft where you see a lot of life jackets worn is canoes, especially in the back country.


159 posted on 10/02/2005 5:44:25 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: Sam Cree

Thanks Sam...


160 posted on 10/02/2005 5:44:48 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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