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Giuliani: I'm Considering 2008 Bid
NewsMax ^ | 10/2/05 | AP

Posted on 10/02/2005 9:21:43 AM PDT by wagglebee

Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani said Sunday he will contemplate next year whether to run for president in 2008.

"I will be considering it next year," Giuliani said during a visit to Denmark. But he added that playing with the idea of running for the Republican nomination for president did not mean he would actually do it.

"Sometime you warm up and get ready and you don't get in and pitch," he told reporters, in a baseball analogy.

Giuliani who was praised for his leadership following the September 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center, thanked Danish firefighters who raised $8,400 in support for their New York colleagues.

"To us it was the only thing we could do, raise money and show our support," firefighter Jens Hjorth said.

Eight firefighters from the station raised the money by recording a CD with six songs called "The Skyline Changed." They sold 27,000 copies.

On Sunday, the band members handed over a copy of the CD to Giuliani, who in return gave them a New York Fire Department hat.

Giuliani was in Denmark to speak at a business leadership conference in the Danish capital on Monday.

In 2000, Giuliani ran for the U.S. Senate, but dropped out after he was diagnosed with prostate cancer.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2008election; conservativism; corrupt; giuliani2008; giussolini; gop; gotohellrudy; notprolife; ny2006first; president2008; rinoforprez; rockefellerredux; rudygiuliani
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To: Sabramerican
they salivate?

Well, maybe it's the same reason people want movie stars and musicians and other celebrities at their rallies: They attract people to the rallies. To use the common phrase, some people put @sses in the seats.

That, however, doesn't mean the 'attraction' is a viable candidate for nationwide office.

You need to separate the two.
101 posted on 10/02/2005 11:06:41 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: tkathy
Agreed. Social issues have run their course and will have an ever decreasing effect on national politics and policy formation. The vast majority of the electorate has seen the devisive nature of the polarized social issues that have dominated the GOP's capture by the fanactics on the far right. Fiscal conservatism and attention to the necessity for a foreign policy consistent with globalization have become a far secondary concern since 1994, those critical and major concerns have had their run. For too long the GOP has been the mirror image of the self-destructive forces that savaged the Democratic Party at the turn of the 19th to the 20th Century; it lasted at least 12 years until the Wilson election.

tkathy ''nailed'' the issues that will regain prominence in 2008. The fringe of the party, the Falwells, Robertsons, Bob Jones and the other social zealots will simply have to plead their case to a mainstream leadership. Otherwise, we'll hand over the government to the Dems.

102 posted on 10/02/2005 11:06:55 AM PDT by middie
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To: Alberta's Child

"Rudy Giuliani ain't running in 2008, since he would be unelectable on a national level even if he wholeheartedly supported every single plank of the GOP platform."

That's quite a definitive statement. I wish it were backed up by some facts, instead of what is your blatant wish. Before you respond, please note that I have not advanced Rudy as a candidate; said I would support him; or even argued for him--I have only been discussing his viability.

Thanks.



103 posted on 10/02/2005 11:06:59 AM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

No, the new media won't buy it, but unfortunately some of the MSM will. Giuliani's primary elections strategy (like John McCain's) is to try and peel away some conservative voters to add to his expected support from moderate Repubs, some dems, and Independents.


104 posted on 10/02/2005 11:07:04 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: Sabramerican

A lot of it depends on who is running and how the campaign is run. I wasn't impressed really with either Bush or Dole. Yeah, Bush won twice. But both of his opponents were vulnerable. They should have been bigger wins.

As for the war on terror, a lot will depend on what happens in upcoming years. Borders, for example, could suddenly rise up to be a huge issue, if we have another Ground Zero.

Here's another possible issue: the gas tax, drilling, and enviro-wackos run amok. If gas doesn't go down, then it will be big. It's already affecting the Virginia campaign, because Caine wanted to raise the gas tax.

The Clintons will try to help someone like Guilianni either win the nomination or run third party. They want to sap and re-direct the energy of our base. Because our base is fervent about abortion. That's what drives them. They love innocent life. And without the base, we won't go anywhere. FRegards....


105 posted on 10/02/2005 11:07:18 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("They'll have to basically rip my fingers from this porch." com/focus/bloggers/1483977/posts)
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To: ElkGroveDan

"There are millions upon millions of deeply devout Christians who are loyal Republican voters, but they simply won't vote for someone who supports abortion and sexual perversion."

Even worse, they won't help campaign. No signs. No bumper stickers. No word-of-mouth. Fewer contributions. We would lose without the base.


106 posted on 10/02/2005 11:09:22 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("They'll have to basically rip my fingers from this porch." com/focus/bloggers/1483977/posts)
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To: moose2004

Sounds to me that the 'moderate' field will be crowded. That's actually good.


107 posted on 10/02/2005 11:10:46 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("They'll have to basically rip my fingers from this porch." com/focus/bloggers/1483977/posts)
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To: middie

"Social issues have run their course and will have an ever decreasing effect on national politics and policy formation. The vast majority of the electorate has seen the devisive nature of the polarized social issues that have dominated the GOP's capture by the fanactics on the far right."

Are you kidding? Social issues are continuing to cause increased polarization. That's what's happening now. Some go to DU. Some go to FR. The debate is growing ever more shrill and will continue until one party falls.


108 posted on 10/02/2005 11:13:43 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("They'll have to basically rip my fingers from this porch." com/focus/bloggers/1483977/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Two big RINO'S, McCain and Giuliani. I could never support either one for president.


109 posted on 10/02/2005 11:15:34 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: wagglebee
ROVE/BOLTON '08
110 posted on 10/02/2005 11:19:28 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (..yep, thats right, I'm an infidel......so what....)
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To: moose2004

There is this theory about de-polarization floating around. I heard Gingrich talk about it. Newt seems to think that people are 'tired' of the partizan 'bickering'. That's why he got all chummy with Hillary recently. But seems to me, now that people have more choices of their news sources, it stands to reason that two great teams would rise up: one side for truth and one side opposed to truth. The side opposed to truth will get all shrill and nasty, and so will the side for truth. In the end, truth will win, but only after a knock-down, drag-out, hammer-and-tong fight.


111 posted on 10/02/2005 11:20:57 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("They'll have to basically rip my fingers from this porch." com/focus/bloggers/1483977/posts)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

How about this? Keyes/Moore 2008. =] We can only dream.


112 posted on 10/02/2005 11:22:23 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("They'll have to basically rip my fingers from this porch." com/focus/bloggers/1483977/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

And the first round of that fight will be the confirmation hearings for the President's next Supreme Court nominee.


113 posted on 10/02/2005 11:22:55 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: wagglebee

NONONONONO. No WAY. Gun control. NO WAY RUDI. NO WAY. If the Dems run someone like Richardson or Gov Warner Rudi will lose the conservative vote or at least a lot of it. Espically gunowners. No way will they vote for RUDI>


114 posted on 10/02/2005 11:24:38 AM PDT by therut
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To: moose2004

Yeah, if social issues are so 'unimportant' to people now, I guess it will be a quiet Sunday drive, huh? I suppose if social issues are getting low on the totem pole, that people will quit listening to talk radio.


115 posted on 10/02/2005 11:25:09 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("They'll have to basically rip my fingers from this porch." com/focus/bloggers/1483977/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Inadvertently, you wrote why he would win.

Above you referred to Giuliani as a Hero.

Why is he a hero? Did he run into a burning building to save a kid? Throw himself on a grenade?

None of that. He's a "hero" for his political accomplishments. For doing in NY what was said to be impossible. His leadership in times of trouble. For being cool and competent in a time of severe crises.

Ask yourself: as much as you may support them for their positions how many politicians would you ever call a hero for their accomplishments in office?

Sometime the times demand a heroic political figure.


116 posted on 10/02/2005 11:25:44 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

HA HA HA good one....


117 posted on 10/02/2005 11:31:10 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (..yep, thats right, I'm an infidel......so what....)
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To: wagglebee

Allen/Rudy would be a good ticket. Allen himself is going to be shown to be tolerant of abortion for adult women in the first 10 weeks. let's see what the single issue pro-life voters have to say about that.


118 posted on 10/02/2005 11:31:24 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: wagglebee
Rudy: I'm Considering 2008 Bid

And in other news Genralisimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

119 posted on 10/02/2005 11:33:06 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Go Mike Pence, Operation Offset, and the Cleveland Indians)
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To: Sabramerican
Because he is a "Superstar!" About 1 million more times brighter than GWB when he ran for his first term. Of course you know this. Others on this string apparently don't see the obvious. He would be good for the country on balance and especially re the GWOT. The Congress is where the action should be. Giuliani would be more likely to appoint Conservative judges, too. To do otherwise would mean further erosion of the Executive. Conservative / strict constructionist jurists are deferrential to the Executive, liberal jurists are not. Politics is about complicated balances and the art of the possible. Rudi is more possible than any other Republican candidate.
120 posted on 10/02/2005 11:33:30 AM PDT by LALALAW
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