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Involuntary Manslaughter Charges to Filed in Nursing Home Flood Deaths.
fox news channel ^ | 9/13/05 | Fox news channel

Posted on 09/13/2005 2:51:21 PM PDT by Rebelbase

Neil Cavuto just announced that the Louisiana State Attorney General will file involuntary manslaughter charges against nursing home staff that fled and left 31 people to die in the flood waters.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina
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To: nicmarlo

No argument here. Wish they'd use Levin as their Constitutional expert... IMHO :)


81 posted on 09/13/2005 5:08:08 PM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: cgk
Wish they'd use Levin as their Constitutional expert... IMHO :)>

Agreed.

82 posted on 09/13/2005 5:11:54 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: plain talk
I can't imagine why they would refuse to do so. Strange.

Their lawyer was on the Clinton News Network just now. I'd take anything he would say with a huge grain of salt, but he argued three points: First, that prematurely evacuating people would have led to deaths, as some of them were in such precarious straits that they could not have handled a bus ride. Second, that they only received a voluntary evacuation order, never a mandatory one. Third, that they called family members and received their okay to keep the patients at the facility (they told family members that if they wanted to pick up their loved ones they'd be accommodated).

Again, I take it all with a huge grain of salt, but I think out of fairness their mouthpiece's arguments should be presented.

83 posted on 09/13/2005 5:30:12 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
My take is different.

President Bush has sinking poll numbers, runaway gasoline prices, millions of invaders entering our nation illegally, etc. With a weakened President Bush, the next nomination to SCOTUS will end up being a woman and a liberal.

Instead of two originalists/Constitutionalists, Bush will end up nominating another moderate/liberal (another Kennedy in Roberts) and a woman Marxist in disguise, like Clement (another Ginsberg).

With Bush in such a weak position, he will not nominate a Luttig, a Brown or a Jones, i.e., a true conservative. This is why the RATs are causing the hysteria. They know if they weaken Bush (or, Bush weakens himself with stupid comments like "I'm responsible and take all the blame for New Orleans), then Bush will be afraid to name a true Constitutionalist with his second pick.

BUSH SAID HE ACCEPTS ALL BLAME FOR THE NEW ORLEANS disaster! What a crock! Why does Bush insist on being a punching bag when the events are NOT his fault??? Why doesn't he turn the tide of the hysteria and flat out say the locals made major errors in decision making?

Bush's self-martyrdom will cost the conservatives seats n Congress next year. Bush is not a strong president. He is acting very weakly here on New Orleans, on border control, on energy, and on all the crucial issues important to Americans.

I am VERY dejected with President Bush's actions/non actions.
84 posted on 09/13/2005 5:30:25 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Numbers Guy
Third, that they called family members and received their okay to keep the patients at the facility (they told family members that if they wanted to pick up their loved ones they'd be accommodated).

Yes, both sides should present their case and we should have all the facts. As FYI a family member of one who died said they were told the nursing home would be evacuating the patients which clearly didn't happen.

85 posted on 09/13/2005 5:53:40 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: AlphaOneAlpha

You answered the question I had. I watch Broussard in his fake crying act and wondered if he would be outed. Can anyone get this info in to the major medias?


86 posted on 09/13/2005 6:16:25 PM PDT by newcat2
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To: plain talk
Some folks just don't understand long term care in nursing homes. Unless you have a very ill person in one, you might imagine it to be just a lot of elderly persons sitting around and playing bingo.

Nursing homes have very chronically ill residents. They are not called patients in a nursing home, but residents with all the rights afforded them as someone in their own home. And their families have every right to determine their care as if they were in their own home.

Some are on ventilatory support. Some are receiving very controlled IV maintenance of drugs. Some are even locked in special units because of or senile dementia.

Can you imagine throwing these patients on school buses to survive? Evidently some staff stayed with their residents and died.

I might ask why the hospitals were not evacuated, but the State Attorney General expected nursing homes to do so.
87 posted on 09/13/2005 6:20:06 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Rebelbase
Well, the local's think that Nagin should be in jail along with the Owner's for this and I am in agreement.

Here's why. Nagin waited too late to order a mandatory evacuation. After he did so, it was nothing but disorganized chaos bred by his obvious incompetence.

Now he wants the feds to enforce his mandatory evacuation after the storm and remove people those who stayed in their homes. He has threatened to deny delivery of food and water but the feds are still delivering it.

He failed at enforcing the evacuation prior to the storm and many lives were lost.

Bear with me a minute. It is entirely a different situation for a citizen to choose to stay and risk his life than "allowing" an Owner of a nursing home not to evacuate his patients.He should have went in and got them.

On another note, even his last resort "evacuation center", the precious Superdome was not set up to house the thousands.

Since the storm all he has done is blame the feds who are the only ones I see doing anything.

Workers don't work when they aren't paid and have disappeared. The City only had enough funds begged borrowed and stolen to pay the last payroll period. Now, he is scambling to try and keep payroll paid. Sheer negligence.

This State is in shambles from the long term effects of cronyism and corruption. Believe me, I know.

It does not matter what party holds office in the state, no one fixes the problems. Poverty is rampid, no one cares. The City has drown but it was already dead.

88 posted on 09/13/2005 6:24:18 PM PDT by LouisianaJoanof Arc (Proud to be an American Republican from Louisiana)
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To: Conservababe
I might ask why the hospitals were not evacuated, but the State Attorney General expected nursing homes to do so.

BINGO! We have a winner. Very good point.

89 posted on 09/13/2005 6:25:37 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: LouisianaJoanof Arc

Tagline no longer fits.


90 posted on 09/13/2005 6:26:56 PM PDT by LouisianaJoanof Arc
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To: Rebelbase

How horrible. Nancy Grace reported on it yesterday, showed their picture. The wife sure looks mean. I hope that pair get the max.


91 posted on 09/13/2005 6:27:04 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: LouisianaJoanof Arc

Nagin has nothing to do with St. Bernards Parrish does he? I Thought this was S.E. of the city out past Chalmette?


92 posted on 09/13/2005 6:27:53 PM PDT by Rebelbase ("Run Hillary Run" bumper stickers. Liberals place on rear bumper, conservatives put on front bumper)
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To: Moral Hazard
While the staff has some duty to the nursing home residents, I don't think the law requires them to do anything that would put themselves at risk.

I see what you are saying but that may be where the involuntary manslaughter comes in. There is outrage across the country right now about this so they had to do something until the dust uh water settles.

93 posted on 09/13/2005 6:29:16 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Rebelbase
I am so glad! This is what I have been saying that they should do all along! Their licenses to practice medicine and nursing should be taken away, too. Also, the people who own the nursing home should lose their licenses as well. FOREVER!!!
94 posted on 09/13/2005 6:30:05 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Dante3
The wife sure looks mean. I hope that pair get the max.
95 posted on 09/13/2005 6:31:50 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Peace will be here soon

It should go all the way to the governor! She and the mayor both need to be reprimanded at the least for their negligence and outright disdain for the situation and the people who would be harmed.


96 posted on 09/13/2005 6:31:59 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: TheConservator

I hope you are wrong. I think that FOX will keep it going so that something has to be done. Americans will be outraged by this!


97 posted on 09/13/2005 6:33:18 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Rebelbase

Well, the tow of them survived! I wonder if they road out the storm at the nursing home? I doubt it. If that is the case, they should go to prison for life!


98 posted on 09/13/2005 6:35:01 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Moral Hazard

Oh yes, they are! I am an R.N. and twenty years ago was charge nurse on a medical/surgical floor. We had to have fire drills and an evacuation plan in case of fire. We were to get the patients out of there.

The staff down there had five days to get those folks out. If there is a fire, you surely don't have five days!


99 posted on 09/13/2005 6:38:16 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: newcat2

I saw this performance on Australian TV news. Broussard immediately reminded me of the 'distraught' husband who asks for help in finding his wife whom he has himself killed. I knew he was lying. But the 'news' is out there now, if I saw it in Oz, so did the rest of the world. All of Europe. How can that be set to rights now?
A public flogging after a televised confession would satisfy me, but that's not going to happen. You wonder why the US is held in such low esteem in certain parts of the world? Take a good look at Broussard and his enablers, the 'journalist', the cameraman and the 'news' sources that employ them, all feeding the frenzy of American hatred they have created.


100 posted on 09/13/2005 6:40:01 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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