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Involuntary Manslaughter Charges to Filed in Nursing Home Flood Deaths.
fox news channel ^ | 9/13/05 | Fox news channel

Posted on 09/13/2005 2:51:21 PM PDT by Rebelbase

Neil Cavuto just announced that the Louisiana State Attorney General will file involuntary manslaughter charges against nursing home staff that fled and left 31 people to die in the flood waters.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina
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To: nicmarlo

>>>...I seemed to recall that withholding food and water wasn't a problem.

Only when ordered by a Florida judge...


41 posted on 09/13/2005 3:11:08 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Looters: undocumented consumers || Looting: purchases with indefinite deferred payment plans)
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To: Rebelbase

31 less democratic voters. They will throw the book at them. Sorry I take that back. The dead can still vote democrat.


42 posted on 09/13/2005 3:12:39 PM PDT by Kokojmudd (Outsource Federal Judiciary and US Senate to India, NOW!)
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To: Peace will be here soon
How high will this all go?

It will skip over the mid level folks (mayor and gov) and the loon of a Governor will instruct the AG to charge Bush.

43 posted on 09/13/2005 3:13:41 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Moral Hazard
While the staff has some duty to the nursing home residents, I don't think the law requires them to do anything that would put themselves at risk.

I think your stupidity bears repeating.

44 posted on 09/13/2005 3:14:10 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Oh yeah...that's right...because this is a complete reversal on Napalitano's part....different judge makes is...different.


45 posted on 09/13/2005 3:14:45 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Moral Hazard
While the staff has some duty to the nursing home residents, I don't think the law requires them to do anything that would put themselves at risk

Judge Napolitano on Fox said that the law requires them to stay there and even die with the residents of the nursing home.

46 posted on 09/13/2005 3:14:58 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Rebelbase

I am happily surprised to read this. As another poster wrote, I wonder how many higher-ups will find themselves in the same place (charged with culpability over the deaths, not just in the nursing home).

Anyone know anything about Louisiana's Attorney General?


47 posted on 09/13/2005 3:15:16 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: Rebelbase
Bertucci, the parish coroner, said in an interview that he had talked with the owners of the nursing home, a couple whom he identified as Sal and Mabel Mangano, several times as Hurricane Katrina approached.

He said the Manganos had planned to evacuate but cited problems, including some patients' physical inability to ride in the buses that were being used to transport people.

In a final conversation with the Manganos at 2 p.m. on the Saturday before the hurricane hit, Bertucci said, the couple indicated that they had decided not to evacuate the home's residents, saying they had five nurses in the facility and the permission of the residents' families to keep them in place.

Days later, the home was under at least 7 feet of water. As crews emerged from the structure Saturday, Bertucci said some deceased residents were still in their beds or wheelchairs, others in hallways. Most were between 70 and 90 years old.

The Manganos were not in the nursing home when the hurricane hit, Bertucci said, adding that he had had been told they were now in Texas. The Times could not independently verify Bertucci's account, and the couple could not be reached for comment.

http://fullcoverage.yahoo.com/s/latimests/20050911/ts_latimes/turningtogrimmesttask


St. Rita's had the required evacuation plan: Ambulances would be called to take bedridden patients away, and the others would be evacuated by school buses. At least 60 patients and six staffers may have been in the building when Katrina hit.

Parish coroner Dr. Bryan Bertucci said several of the parish's other nursing homes evacuated during the weekend, but St. Rita's staffers never put their plan into effect.

Sunday afternoon, Dr. Bertucci said, he checked with St. Rita's staff to see why. He said the owner, Mabel Mangano, told him she had five special-needs patients, and an ambulance hadn't come to pick them up. Officials said she also told them that she had spoken with the families of patients who said it was okay to stay behind.

"There was frustration over not having her patients out; a false sense of security because they'd never flooded before; they had generators and stuff, and it [an evacuation] tends to be traumatic for some of these special-needs patients," Dr. Bertucci said.

"She asked me if we were upset," Dr. Bertucci said. "I said I'm not on the council, I'm concerned about the patients."

Dr. Bertucci said he told Ms. Mangano, " 'We've got two buses and two drivers that'll take you anywhere you want to go. Do you want the buses?'

"She said no."

KAREN BROOKS / The Dallas Morning News

That last piece is particularly heart wrenching, but I encourage clicking on it and reading it.
48 posted on 09/13/2005 3:16:35 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Keith in Iowa
Only when ordered by a Florida judge...

You rang?


49 posted on 09/13/2005 3:17:35 PM PDT by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: Rebelbase
All this is amazing to me. I live in South Florida and one of the Emergency Evacuation Plans is about hospitals and nursing home evacuations. We have our cities, counties and state officials READY unlike the criminals from Louisiana. Not only the LTC staff should be held accountable, but the mayor and the governor should be prosecuted as well.
50 posted on 09/13/2005 3:18:10 PM PDT by Quinotto (On matters of style swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MarkeyD; thoughtomator

Not in Nagin's jurisdiction. He should be in the clear on this one.


51 posted on 09/13/2005 3:18:18 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Rebelbase

Reminds me of the Senate Drunk, Chappaquiddick Kennedy, who is now judging Judge Roberts.


52 posted on 09/13/2005 3:23:06 PM PDT by foofoopowder
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To: thoughtomator

You guys have got it all wrong...it's Bush's fault...he should have designed an evacuation plan for each nursing home in the greater NO area and should have flown down there and driven the ambulances to the nursing homes and evacuated the people himself/Sarcasm....i bet what is next is that someone finds pictures of flooded ambulances!!


53 posted on 09/13/2005 3:23:22 PM PDT by kd79
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To: Rebelbase
BY VICTOR EPSTEIN BLOOMBERG NEWS
Posted on Thursday, September 8, 2005

The 60 residents of St. Rita's Nursing Home had a plan to evacuate before Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans. Instead, the staff and patients remained as the storm flooded the low-lying parish of St. Bernard.

Because of that decision, the bodies of at least 15 residents and possibly as many as 35 are now decomposing inside the one-story facility in this area about six miles east of downtown where 67,000 people once lived.

...

Outside, debris covers the roof of a Hummer sport utility vehicle, which area officials say belongs to a staff member. "When we saw that Hummer still in the parking lot a few days ago, we knew we were in trouble because that's the first vehicle they would have used to escape," Parish Councilman Tony Ricky Melerine said Tuesday afternoon.

Officials of St. Bernard Parish, a bedroom and retirement community bounded by water on three sides, said the parish death toll may reach 500. They blamed the lawlessness of the inner city for diverting resources and attention from them.

The shortage of manpower and impassability of roads prevented neighboring residents from getting inside St. Rita's until Tuesday, nine days after Katrina. "It doesn't look like anyone has been here yet to make a count," Melerine said as he poled a skiff over the black muck of St. Bernard's flooded streets. "This was my district. We gonna have to do it."

http://www.nwanews.com/story.php?paper=adg&section=national&storyid=127759


Less than 24 hours before Hurricane Katrina began ravaging St. Bernard Parish with 140 mph winds and a 20-foot storm surge, Coroner Bryan Bertucci made an urgent call to the owner of St. Rita's Nursing Home near Poydras.

"I told her I had two buses and two drivers who could evacuate all 70 of her residents and take them anywhere she wanted to go," he said.

But Mabel Mangano refused the offer. "She told me, 'I have five nurses and a generator, and we're going to stay here,'" Bertucci said.

http://www.raggededgemagazine.com/blog/editorblog.html


54 posted on 09/13/2005 3:29:56 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: michigander
"I don't think the law requires them to do anything that would put themselves at risk."

Sort of comparable to employees of "the state" having no obligation to protect mere citizens?

Good point.

Does anybody this state feel responsible for anybody else?
A liberal state and city in a disaster.......it exposes just how bankrupt the left is.

55 posted on 09/13/2005 3:30:22 PM PDT by Jorge (Q)
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To: Rebelbase
"Fled and left people to die......"

Uh, Didn't the Mayor, Governor and most of the local politicians responsible for ALL the people -- do pretty much the same thing?

Uh, Didn't the Mayor and Governor FAIL to implement their OWN plans to evacuation and or support their citizens -- thus leading to additional deaths? Doesn't this qualify as Homicide by Negligence?

Semper Fi

56 posted on 09/13/2005 3:30:42 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Quinotto

You are exactly right, every County and city, Town in the State should have had an evacuation plan including where to evacuate to. they should have started the evacuations on Friday. Police,Fire are first responders and they did not do the job, and that messed everything up on down the raod.


57 posted on 09/13/2005 3:33:04 PM PDT by samantha (Cheer up, the adults are in charge.)
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To: abb
If they're guilty of Negligent Homicide, then so are Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin. Period.

And why would Nagin be guilty? The deaths didn't occur in New Orleans, or even Orleans Parish. They occured in Poydras, St. Bernard Parish.

58 posted on 09/13/2005 3:35:35 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Rebelbase

Oh my. This is going to get ugly isn't it?


59 posted on 09/13/2005 3:36:39 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: All
All this is the same nursing home Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard was crying about on Meet the Press.

In Nursing Home, a Fight Lost to Rising Waters (Broussard less than truthful on Meet The Press)

60 posted on 09/13/2005 3:37:29 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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