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Katrina Live Thread XII
Various ^ | 31 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/31/2005 4:00:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse

President Bush: "We are dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history." Push has appropriated vast federal resources to assist with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

78,000 people are currently in shelters. New Orleans evacuation continues. 10,000 additional National Guard troops have been called to service.

Hospitals are running low on supplies, and public health concerns include water borne disease, poor sanitation, food and drinking water contamination and shortages, mosquitoes, carbon monixide poisoning from electricity generators, lack of childcare, and the special needs of the elderly.

Links to various news, local and state government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)

2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.

NOLA.com

Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates

WLBT.com Jackson MS

WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports

Gulfport News via Topix.net

WAFB Baton Rouge

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal

St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Alabama DOT
Alabama.gov
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers

Streaming Video:

WWL-TV: http://www.khou.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad

WDSU-TV: http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38843.asx"

WPMI-TV: http://www.wpmi.com/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=113739

WKRG-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

WTOK-TV (follow the link on the home page): http://www.wtok.com/

WJTV-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95563

Gulf Coast Storm Network (radio): http://www.stormalert.net/main.html#


Related FR Threads:

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread

Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?

Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here

Looting Begins In New Orleans

Martial Law Declared in New Orleans


Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.

Previous Threads:

Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; tropical
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To: Spiff

A cop was filching CDs? Okay, you're right, the cops are no help whatsoever. They need to be arrested themselves.


721 posted on 08/31/2005 6:45:41 PM PDT by madison10
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To: PhiKapMom
The media isn't talking about the drops that have occurred since the flooding either.

Do you have evidence of a massive airdrop of supplies.

I am sorry I am hard on you. I really am.

722 posted on 08/31/2005 6:45:48 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: DocRock
Nothing wrong with that. Just bus them to a freight train, put 'em on box cars with some food and water and get 'em out of there. Send the buses back in for the next load...

Given most able families exit under their own vehicles, there's enough capacity on the school bus fleet that no further transportation would be required.

723 posted on 08/31/2005 6:45:56 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: madison10
Are they actually "looting" or getting materials that would help in search, rescue & survival.

television sets, GameBoys and jewelry. All necessary survival items.

724 posted on 08/31/2005 6:46:33 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Howlin
those reporters need to be rotated out of there.

IMO - all reporters need to be out of there.

725 posted on 08/31/2005 6:47:19 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: jeffers
Fantastic post, expresses my thoughts exactly!

My field is Infectious Diseases and Tropical Medicine, we are facing a major emergency and I have not heard a peep yet about mobilization.

A major ID meeting is scheduled for 9/21 in N.O. (obviously it will be cancelled).

Vaccine supplies and drug supplies to prevent typhoid, Hepatitis A, malaria, and yellow fever need to be rounded up and emergency aid stations and hospitals created - once we figure out where the refugees are going.

It would not be unreasonable to try to vaccinate the whole US population for Hepatitis A, since refugees will be all over and HAV will be a big problem.

726 posted on 08/31/2005 6:47:19 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Has anyone seen a figure of "known" dead or are we still getting 40 in NO, 110 in MS.

If anyone on this thread thinks those numbers are even remotely close, you are in for a very rude awakening.


727 posted on 08/31/2005 6:47:23 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Confirm justice Roberts!)
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To: bjs1779
"Do you have evidence of a massive airdrop of supplies."

I did see some live shots of a "Bucket Brigade" of National Guardsmen unloading a large number of supplies st the Superdome.

728 posted on 08/31/2005 6:47:30 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: PhiKapMom
my oldest daughter and her husband are in the Navy, my son is a grad student teaching English Comp, and my youngest is a Journalism student. Both kids are at The University of Oklahoma and I see a lot of really neat kids that are their friends all the time.

Well done! Pray for me that I can produce similar results...:-)

729 posted on 08/31/2005 6:47:34 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: NautiNurse
you folks just want to be voyeurs. You are saying then it is pay for view.

Not really, NN, the purpose of showing bodies (I would think from a great distance) is to demonstrate the human cost here beyond the property losses. More often than should be, people try to stick out these hurricanes. I understand about those who were unable to go, but a clear message needs to be sent for those who may try to stay through the next hurricane. I completely sympathize with those who lost loved ones and it is not necessary to add to that grief. Maybe save the footage for a later date... I don't know. It is though a significant part of the story. But I can understand people not wanting this aired.

730 posted on 08/31/2005 6:47:47 PM PDT by Tuxedo (This space for rent.)
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To: NautiNurse
Are they actually "looting" or getting materials that would help in search, rescue & survival.

television sets, GameBoys and jewelry. All necessary survival items.

The police were taking those things? Thought it was jus the looters. We are talking about the same thing, right?

731 posted on 08/31/2005 6:47:59 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Diddle E. Squat; All
Everything seemed to change once Military helicopters started arriving.

Bob Livingston is saying on FOX right now that Martial Law should have been declared and he can't figure out what the Gov is thinking not doing this before now...he mentioned how they had done this right away in Mississippi and Alabama and that these looters have to be delt with, not with a wink and a nod.

We are not the only ones who think this woman is clueless.

My fear.. these same guys will get transported out to one of the shelters out of State and bring their trouble with them. Most are professional "Gangsta-types" -- you know, the rap culture.

732 posted on 08/31/2005 6:48:21 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Aliska
I thought it might be up to $6 already.

With the secret out that pipeline and refineries are disrupted, we just might see that tomorrow.

733 posted on 08/31/2005 6:48:41 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: PhiKapMom
They have been dropping supplies today. The inept Governor had to submit a request for federal help and she spent more time on TV then she did in asking for help. Coast Guard was the first in to start search and rescue which is the first priority.

I am unabashedly biased in the matter, but I'm gonna go ahead and say that I'm really really proud of my Coast Guard shipmates today. Those guys didn't wait for a better plan, they just got in there and started doing what they could. It should be recognized that those pilots and crews and their support groups have been running solid for about 48hrs now. Probably precious little sleep for any of them.

Semper Paratus. Bravo Zulu.

734 posted on 08/31/2005 6:48:59 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: NautiNurse

This is for Shep who doesn't believe there are federal people helping out. This article about Air Force assistance just came in my email:

August 31, 2005

Air Force supports FEMA; helps Hurricane Katrina victims


WASHINGTON - Units and people from across the Air Force are supporting the Federal Emergency Management Agency and helping victims of Hurricane Katrina from Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.

Helicopters from the 920th Rescue Wing at Patrick Air Force Base, Fla., flew to Jackson Miss., Aug. 30 carrying Federal Emergency Management Agency assessment teams to areas affected by the hurricane.

A C-130J transport aircraft from the 403rd Wing at Keesler AFB, Miss., flying out of Asheville, N.C., returned home to the base delivering supplies to the base hospital.
The 908th Airlift Wing at Maxwell AFB, Ala., geared up two C-130s, aircrews and aeromedical evacuation people to help move people.

A C-5 Galaxy from the 60th Air Mobility Wing, Travis AFB Calif. and a C-17 Globe Master III from the 305th AMW, McGuire AFB, NJ transported tanker airlift control elements and contingency support groups to Gulfport and New Orleans International Airports respectively. Another C-5 from Travis helped search and rescue teams from California get to the affected area.

Fifteen HH-60s helicopters and crews from the 347th Rescue Wing at Moody AFB, Ga., and the 16th Special Operations Wing at Hurlburt Field., Fla have been positioned near the affected area in Jackson, Miss., and crews were credited with saving stranded survivors of the hurricane.
Additionally, Critical Care Air Transport teams and an obstetrics team from Wilford Hall Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, helped patients and expectant mothers evacuate Keesler AFB, Miss., on Tuesday. The patients and pregnant women were evacuated to Wilford Hall.
For more information, contact the Secretary of the Air Force Public Affairs office at (703)-695-0640.


735 posted on 08/31/2005 6:49:08 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: sam_paine
The mike-in-your-face ambush journalism is bad-enough in Washington, but it has no place here at all. Background. Find out who she gets her info from. Find out who's supposed to be in charge. Find out if there was a State Plan filed somewhere in the past that was better (just even an internet search.) Anything but just putting some official on the spot to rile up viewers for rating points.

Umm, it wasn't an ambush, it was a planned interview on a satellite link. If she didn't want to answer questions, she shouldn't have agreed to the interview. She's the official spokesperson for the LA state police, FGS! She gets paid to pass on information.

736 posted on 08/31/2005 6:49:09 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Howlin

Then you won't know what is going on. I would like to know.


737 posted on 08/31/2005 6:49:34 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Dropping food in front of cameras isn't nearly as important as getting it to where it needs to go...

And where do you get these huge stocks to drop??

They have to be moved to a central rally point. (trucks, Fuel, Logisticall co-ordination..

Helicopters and CREWS have to be found (Takes time to tell the wife, kids, and employer you won't be back for a while..)

Again, fuel, and logistics have to be set up. Nearest Airport with the infrastructure to handle that kind of load is Memphis, Houston, or Eglin, until you can get something set up closer...

BOTTOM LINE... A Big (or even Huge) response takes 72-96 HOURS to set up. And the first hours are the responasibility of LOCAL AUTHORITIES...

The fact that locals have handled this incredibly BADLY is only going to make saving folks even harder...


738 posted on 08/31/2005 6:49:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: sinkspur

"Ask Kathleen Blanco. The Louisiana National Guard is under her command."

Governor Drawing A Blanco is lost. The feds just have to take control of the situation and let her go do TV interviews.



739 posted on 08/31/2005 6:49:52 PM PDT by Friend of the Friendless
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To: bjs1779

They were showing it on FOX and people standing in line for hours and then the supplies running out before they got through the line. This is over a million people in dire straights.


740 posted on 08/31/2005 6:49:57 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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