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Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Vermonter

Excuse me -- the main action right now is search and rescue like it is in every disaster situation. Most important item they can do is get every last person they can out of there.


4,441 posted on 08/31/2005 7:12:46 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

The third day into this and they are just getting a command center set up? Disgraceful.

And I hope it occurs to someone down there that they have to actually TALK to each other to and coordinate.

Last night the mayor and governor were all over the place with contradictory statements.


4,442 posted on 08/31/2005 7:12:55 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: ErnBatavia

My boss is headed there (Hattiesburg) in the morning, no phone or electric at this time. Well at least at his ma's farm.


4,443 posted on 08/31/2005 7:13:17 AM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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To: PhiKapMom
Just heard they are now getting Command Centers set up.

Good news. Sorta surprised they haven't done that yet, but I can think of some pretty good reasons why.

Someone needs to muzzle the Governor and her "I Don't Know" statements.

You've got that right. She's doing a lot more harm than good here. I'd be very surprised if she can remain in office after this.

4,444 posted on 08/31/2005 7:14:23 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: john316

How many of the late-arrivals to the Dome might already be infected with something horrible from walking through sewage?

The Astrodome might be the world's largest quarantine center.


4,445 posted on 08/31/2005 7:15:54 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (The most dangerous phrase in the English language: "There oughtta be a law")
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To: Quilla
she's adamant about going

I can relate to that too  :-)

Best of luck to her.

4,446 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:13 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Peach

The mayor and gov are playing politics. I think they should be kicked aside and FEMA needs to take over command and control. Gov and Mayor don't have any sort of leadership qualities. They know how to whine and look sour. They say, evac the superdome in 2 days without knowing how or why. They complain about little sandbags not blocking the breach. They are impeding and adding to confusion IMO. Can you imagine Giuliani, Pataki, and W acting like these people on 9/11?


4,447 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:29 AM PDT by james_f_hall
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To: PhiKapMom
Most important item they can do is get every last person they can out of there.

I agree with that, but the impression that is coming out of NO is that everything (levees not getting fixed, Superdome problems, etc) is because the city isn't getting help. That perception needs to be changed.

4,448 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:50 AM PDT by Vermonter
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To: PhiKapMom
Someone needs to muzzle the Governor and her "I Don't Know" statements.

Someone needs to tell the governor that she can assume extraordinary powers during martial law - and she needs to start using them and commandeer transport to get those people out while she still can, instead of giving simpering interviews on Larry King that just add to the sense of impending doom.

4,449 posted on 08/31/2005 7:16:59 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Miss Marple
Get this: they are going to move them from the Superdome to (ta da) The Houston Astrodome!!! There's a plan, for you!

I am not making this up. I will go get the link to prove that this is what they are going to do.

MSNBC has you covered.

Unless there's tents for another 25,000 around someplace, that's about the best plan that can be come up with.

4,450 posted on 08/31/2005 7:17:10 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: All
On WDSU they are showing counterpoints to the looting video, showing people assisting the rescue effort, directing the rescuers to where the elderly, a mom with a newborn, etc. That is more like what I saw going on here in Florida during last year's storms. Not everyone goes feral in these situations.
4,451 posted on 08/31/2005 7:17:23 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: PhiKapMom

How about they just plain muzzle the governor?


4,452 posted on 08/31/2005 7:17:48 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: mhking
How about they just plain muzzle the governor?

Second that motion!

4,454 posted on 08/31/2005 7:18:32 AM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: Peach

According to our local news, some were set up and ready to go into operation but the flooding into NO made them set up elsewhere. Had to wonder about the thugs looting as well -- not safe to put them anywhere near some areas that need them.

Mayor and Governor are inept to be kind. Last night I heard the Sheriff of Parish of NO say that FEMA was taking over responsibility for NO.

I think we have a news blackout of anything the Feds are doing on the ground -- can you say I don't trust the media?


4,455 posted on 08/31/2005 7:18:40 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: Vermonter; PhiKapMom
Like it or not, there is a political aspect to this -- both in terms of near-term and long-term activities and funding. FEMA, et al, need to very quickly gain control of the information flow, to say what's being done and why; and what's not being done, and why. Blanco and the Mayor are painting a picture of chaos, and it's going to cause serious problems soon.
4,457 posted on 08/31/2005 7:19:50 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Good news. Sorta surprised they haven't done that yet, but I can think of some pretty good reasons why.

I am surprised too, but like you I think I can understand some of the reasons why. Like some of the anticipated command posts got hit too. I've heard some of that and other posts can't get word out yet either.

That is why the govenor had to be a strong leader and she has failed at it. The FEMA director needs/needed to really step up on this one too. Command and control really is messed up. Although it does sound like mobilization is occuring behind the scenes contrary to the poor leadership we're seeing. Several days from now things will get better.

4,458 posted on 08/31/2005 7:20:25 AM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: Mo1

Personally, I wouldn't want to go from one Dome to another, but in Houston, they can get out and walk around or get other places...

Plus, Astroworld is right down the street (walking distance) and I think it would be great if they would open up and let the people, especially kids get to go there free and play and just be outside and have food...and FRESH AIR!!!


4,459 posted on 08/31/2005 7:20:49 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington Texas --- Next home of the Dallas Cowboys...going more broke every second.)
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To: mhking

That works for me -- muzzle would be good. I turned off WWL when she started her prayer service interrupting the work people were doing. She seems to be treating this like it is time for everyone to take a break throughout LA when people are waiting to be rescued.


4,460 posted on 08/31/2005 7:20:54 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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