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Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Various ^ | 30 August 2005

Posted on 08/30/2005 6:51:27 AM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: gumboyaya

There's a Confederate Museum about two blocks from the D-Day museum as well.

Haven't been there- but according to their web site (http://www.confederatemuseum.com) they have (or had) an impressive collection of artificats.


2,061 posted on 08/30/2005 12:21:26 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Have we seen offers of help from other countries?

Not that I've seen. Remembered reading this one earlier today though.

2,062 posted on 08/30/2005 12:21:31 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: All

Updates as they come in on Katrina

02:10 PM CDT on Tuesday, August 30, 2005


Tom Planchet



2:09 P.M. - Video on WAFB-TV shows the Twin Spans between I-10 and Slidell broken in dozens of spots.


2:07 P.M. - (AP) -- A top casino executive is calling on the Mississippi Legislature to enact emergency legislation to keep the state's coast gaming industry alive.


Treasure Bay Casino President and CEO Bernie Burkholder says most of the casino hotels on the coast survived Hurricane Katrina, but several gambling barges suffered extensive damage. He says it could take several years to rebuild.


2:01 P.M. - Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard says there is no plumbing and the sanitary situation is getting nasty. He told WAFB-TV that he is carrying around a bag for his own human waste.


2:00 P.M. - Senator Thad Cochran of Mississippi says "this is going to be the most expensive natural disaster that's hit the United States in history."


2,063 posted on 08/30/2005 12:21:50 PM PDT by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

If water is waist deep around the Super Dome, isn't that pretty close to the French Quarter?


2,064 posted on 08/30/2005 12:22:01 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: Trust but Verify
Screw the casinos.

I understand the sentiment but those casinos may be one of the few places available for emergency housing. Most have large hotels nearby which may be the only place the refugees can stay for a few weeks while the water subsides and the infrastructure is rebuilt.

It won't be like *living* in a hotel (room service, etc.) but it is a place where you can lay down and sleep. For some people, that's all they're going to have for awhile.

2,065 posted on 08/30/2005 12:22:13 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Visit Club Gitmo - The World's Only Air-Conditioned Gulag.)
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To: El Laton Caliente

"To: Daus; randita

I don't know if I can find it now, but I read a report that the Corps think it may be weeks or months before they can open the Mississppi River Channel into the Gulf. They keep dredges going full time in the
delta to overcome sand bars and shoals anyway. This storm was capible of actually moving the river's channel and mouth."

Yup, just one of the things the media hasn't even begun to consider.


2,066 posted on 08/30/2005 12:22:24 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Shermy
My question: if the levees broke a day after the brunt of the storm...why did they breach?

The LSU professor I saw on TV earlier said that the storm surges overspilling the levees caused the breach - apparently wearing them down until they gave.

2,067 posted on 08/30/2005 12:22:49 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Would I lie to you?)
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To: Abby4116

Son of a gun. Chavez and Putin. Who else?


2,068 posted on 08/30/2005 12:23:03 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Txsleuth

:)

No worries. No flames over here. News is coming in FAST, FURIOUS & All bad - and there is little to no way to verify a lot of it without hard sources (links, papers, etc.)


2,069 posted on 08/30/2005 12:23:07 PM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: Torie

two breaches the other at industrail canel, pumping station 6 about to fail. CNN.


2,070 posted on 08/30/2005 12:23:25 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: NCC-1701
I just got back from a lunchtime stroll in downtown Memphis. I noticed that every window that isn't under an overhang is coated with dirt. Not just a powder-thin dusting but dirt. It wasn't there yesterday. We had a Katrina remnant storm last night and then noticed this this morning. Since there isn't any major construction sites nearby, this dirt could only have come from Katrina. It must have sucked up a lot of it from all over the southeast and left it from the rains. It showed up after things dried up. I've never seen anything like this. Has anyone else noticed this? Just an interesting observation in relation to this tragedy.

All wind carries dirt, that's what causes windows to get dirtiest fastest. Lots of wind (like in Katrina)equals lots of dirt on windows.

2,071 posted on 08/30/2005 12:23:28 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: SoothingDave; Alberta's Child

Alberta's Child told me that these folks just need to look to their neighbors and family for help. Uh, wake up and look around. What neighbors? What family, in most cases?

"...he/she is a public menace who is putting other lives at risk through their own ignorance, stupidity, arrogance, etc."

Maybe one of the most ignorant, stupid, arrogant statements I've seen today.


2,072 posted on 08/30/2005 12:23:35 PM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Tall_Texan

The casinos themselves are on barges aren't they?


2,073 posted on 08/30/2005 12:23:47 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: samantha

To gain an additional 24 hours you would be saying that they should have started the evacuation on Friday morning instead of Saturday morning.

The 11:30 AM Friday morning official NHC track predicted landfall near Panama City Florida. At that point Apalachicola and Panama City had almost TWICE the probability of being the center of this event than New Orleans. Friday afternoon to evening is when things began to change dramatically, and by Sat morning it was clear that LA was at risk, and it was Saturday morning when the evacuation began.


2,074 posted on 08/30/2005 12:24:00 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Abigail Adams
I kinda feel sorry for the looters in a way. They are probably so poor, probably uneducated, are so desperate that at a time like this, they can only think of material posessions. It's very sad.

There is a very important lesson in it. A lot of middle class and wealthier people grabbed a few items of sentimental value and headed to Houston even before the traffic, and certainly as soon as the order was given. They didn't load up, they just got out.

I wouldn't be surprised if many of those who stayed did so just so they could take part in the looting. They are wading through feces-laden water to steal something that probably won't survive the week anyway.

As much as the class warriors like to claim it is the case, over and over again I find that wealthy people actually tend to care less about material things than poor people. I know only a few greedy wealthy people, but most of the poorest people I have ever met have been wholly preoccupied with "stuff."

God doesn't need to do anything to punish us, the worst sinner is also the most self-destructive.

2,075 posted on 08/30/2005 12:24:04 PM PDT by hopespringseternal (</i>)
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To: Steve_Seattle
This disaster will be a real eye-opener for the Homeland Security folks.

I think the plans for most major cities are going to have to include large-scale movement of people by rail -- freight trains, mainly. Load any rail car capable of carrying people, and just drag them out of town. Of all the modes of transportation available, trains can carry by far the most people in the fewest number of trips.

2,076 posted on 08/30/2005 12:24:04 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: NCC-1701

Hopefully, just ONE shoe.


2,077 posted on 08/30/2005 12:24:09 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Shermy
My question: if the levees broke a day after the brunt of the storm...why did they breach?

Liquidfaction? Just my guess being that they were earthen levees.

2,078 posted on 08/30/2005 12:24:20 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Never underestimate stupid people in large groups.)
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To: flutters
A top casino executive is calling on the Mississippi Legislature to enact emergency legislation to keep the state's coast gaming industry alive

Uh - get in line, pal.

2,079 posted on 08/30/2005 12:24:47 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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Wolf Blitzer starting in on the meme that the war in Iraq has depleted National Guard resources. I expect to hear this ad nauseum over the coming weeks.


2,080 posted on 08/30/2005 12:25:32 PM PDT by overtaxed_canadian
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