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Victor Davis Hanson: The Paranoid Style (Socialists, anarchists and paleocons, oh my!)
National Review ^ | August 26, 2005 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/26/2005 8:56:45 AM PDT by quidnunc

Iraq: Where socialists and anarchists join in with racialists and paleocons.

It is becoming nearly impossible to sort the extreme rhetoric of the antiwar Left from that of the fringe paleo-Right. Both see the Iraqi war through the same lenses: the American effort is bound to fail and is a deep reflection of American pathology.

An anguished Cindy Sheehan calls Bush "the world's biggest terrorist." And she goes on to blame Israel for the death of her son ("Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel").

Her antiwar venom could easily come right out of the mouth of a more calculating David Duke. Perhaps that's why he lauded her anti-Semitism: "Courageously she has gone to Texas near the ranch of President Bush and braved the elements and a hostile Jewish supremacist media."

This odd symbiosis began right after 9/11. Then the lunatic Left mused about the "pure chaos" of the falling "two huge buck teeth" twin towers, lamented that they were more full of Democrats than Republicans, and saw the strike as righteous payback from third-world victims.

The mirror-imaging fundamentalists and censors in turn saw the attack as an angry God's retribution either for an array of our mortal sins or America's tilting toward Israel.

In Iraq, the Left thinks we are unfairly destroying others; the ultra-Right that we are being destroyed ourselves. The former alleges that we are bullying in our global influence, the latter that we are collapsing from our decadence.

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(Excerpt) Read more at victorhanson.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; cindysheehan; davidduke; lewrockwell; vdh; victordavishanson
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1 posted on 08/26/2005 8:56:45 AM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

VDH top 10! Woot!


2 posted on 08/26/2005 8:57:20 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: quidnunc

Bump for tonight.


3 posted on 08/26/2005 9:01:49 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: quidnunc

BTTT


4 posted on 08/26/2005 9:01:49 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: quidnunc

Bookmarked.


5 posted on 08/26/2005 9:02:38 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: quidnunc
Hansen's article seemed like a sober assessment to me. Extremists of both ends tend to meet: the political spectrum as circle, not line. Don't quite understand your 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink' sarcasm, much less the 'paranoia' remarks.
6 posted on 08/26/2005 9:10:06 AM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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To: Valin

There are some real loonies out there. I never new Lew Rockwell was that nuts---I knew they were "off," but this stuff is beyond kookburger.


7 posted on 08/26/2005 9:18:55 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: quidnunc
Has VDH switched his Democrat registration yet?

If not, somebody tell him to get with it!

All the rest of the Neocons have.

8 posted on 08/26/2005 9:29:48 AM PDT by iconoclast (2008 can't come soon enough.)
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To: LS

I always had a problem with Lew Rockwell, not because of what he writes, but because everyone I have ever met online who liked Lew Rockwell was a troll. VDH's column confirmed my feelings on this matter.


9 posted on 08/26/2005 9:47:04 AM PDT by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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To: LS

Having noticed that Llewellyn Rockwell is nuts, just wait until you get a gander at paleolimpwrist Justin Raimondo and his/her/its antiwar.com. When Justin is not ruining Pat Buchanan's career, he is running his anti-Semitic and anti-American keyboard making even David Duke look rational by comparison. Justin: Beyond whatever is beyond kookburger (nice descriptive term!). Paleosurrendermonkeys all!


10 posted on 08/26/2005 10:03:05 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: iconoclast

"Has VDH switched his Democrat registration yet?"

It doesn't make any difference to me.


11 posted on 08/26/2005 10:03:18 AM PDT by SisBoombah
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To: Tolik; King Prout

ping


12 posted on 08/26/2005 12:30:45 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: BlackElk

Yes, Antiwar.com is even worse. You took the words right out of my mouth, if you'll pardon the expression.


13 posted on 08/26/2005 2:03:27 PM PDT by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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To: SisBoombah
It doesn't make any difference to me.

Nor to any other Bushbot.

14 posted on 08/26/2005 2:48:30 PM PDT by iconoclast (2008 can't come soon enough.)
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To: quidnunc

bttt


15 posted on 08/26/2005 2:55:03 PM PDT by lainde
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To: quidnunc
The Lefty lunatics, utopian libertarians and revanchiste paleocons share one thing in common: America sucks. Its certainly a meme to hang their opposition to everything our country has been doing to defend itself and advance freedom since 9/11. For these folks, nothing America does is good enough in their eyes.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
16 posted on 08/26/2005 6:54:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: LS

Justin Raimondo Used to post here until the Viking Kitties swooped down from the halls of Valhalla and smote him.

Lew Rockwell & Justin Raimondo
(I paraphrase)
Ordinarily they are insane, but they have lucid moments when they are merely stupid.
Heinrich Heine


17 posted on 08/26/2005 8:29:38 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: LS; Valin
I never new Lew Rockwell was that nuts---I knew they were "off," but this stuff is beyond kookburger

Yes, he is a character. But I don't think he's crazy. He states what he believes. The problem is what he believes.

It's obvious which FReepers love sites like lewrockwell.com.


18 posted on 08/26/2005 8:46:58 PM PDT by rdb3 ("That which has happened is a warning. To forget it is guilt..." --Karl Jaspers)
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To: quidnunc

One of my favorite quotes is 'I wish I was half the man my dog thought I was'. I would like to add to that 'I wish I was half as smart as Victor Davis Hanson is'.


19 posted on 08/26/2005 10:26:07 PM PDT by sydbas
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To: sydbas
VDH is brilliant. I use his book, "Carnage and Culture," as my textbook in my very popular class, "Technology and the Culture of War." I'd like to find a "counter" view that was accessible, but "Guns, Germs, and Steel" is just too boring and tedious (not to mention wrong).

That said, I fear Victor (whom I've corresponded with on several occasions) is close to becoming Stephen Ambrose II: he now has tours, his own website with other "Western Way of War" writers (presumably his students who have gone on to bigger things); lectures, speeches, and I'm expecting an MTV appearance at any time :) Seriously, the danger here, as Ambrose demonstrated, is that there is only so much time, and accuracy is a historian's stock in trade. Grad students and research assistants can only do so much. Even a "god" like Paul Johnson made innumerable mistakes in his "History of the American People," and it's taken us four printings to excise all the errors from "A Patriot's History of the United States." Some were silly, having Saddam captured in 2004 rather than December 2003, but errors are errors, and when you start spreading yourself too thin, writing columns in NRO, Jewish World Review, leading tour groups, sooner or later the errors pile up and credibility starts to deteriorate.

My next book, "Why Americans Win Wars and Why the Left Hates It That We Do" is due out in Fall 2006, and if they are crucifying a giant like VDH, I can't wait to see what accusations they throw at me.

20 posted on 08/27/2005 5:56:18 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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