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FEDS VOW TO GET TOUGH ON ILLEGALS
Drudge Report ^ | Aug. 23, 2005 | Durdge

Posted on 08/23/2005 2:59:52 PM PDT by QQQQQ

FEDS VOW TO GET TOUGH ON ILLEGALS Tue Aug 23 2005 17:15:30 ET

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, acknowledging public frustration over illegal immigration, said Tuesday that the federal government's detention and deportation system must be fundamentally restructured.

"We have decided to stand back and take a look at how we address the problem and solve it once and for all," Chertoff said during a breakfast meeting with reporters.

The NEW YORK TIMES is planning a front page placement for the Chertoff comments on Wednesday, newsroom sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.

The unusually blunt assessment by the nation's top immigration official comes after governors in New Mexico and Arizona recently declared a border-related "state of emergency," citing a surge in smuggling and violence associated with the steady flow of illegal immigrants.

Developing...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: adaylate1dollarshort; aliens; border; borderalreadygone; bordersecurity; bridgeforsale; bushamnesty; chertoff; drudge; ha; haha; hahaha; homelandsecurity; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrations; invasionusa; makecrimelegal; nobordernoproblems; openborders; security; sweetlittlelies; tellmeanotherone; toolittletoolate; yahright
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To: trubluolyguy
My friend, they continue to shock and amaze at their abilities to shoot themselves in the foot on a weekly basis.

You are so right! It's almost as if they're trying to keep the Democrat party, which should by now be permanently consigned to the dustbin of history, in the game for as long as they can.

161 posted on 08/23/2005 9:15:57 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: QQQQQ

I will believe it when I see it. I just think they are giving the public a bunch of lip service. They know they are guilty of this.


162 posted on 08/23/2005 9:29:18 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: QQQQQ

"Election Year Pending" chatter...someone has finally figured out that the natives are restless...yawn


163 posted on 08/23/2005 9:37:08 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: Map Kernow
I have been kicking around the idea with some of the Jim Gilchrist campaign team to start a Club For Growth sort of PAC or advocacy group to target open border Republicans in primaries and go against open border dems in the general. What does everyone think of this idea? Powder Blue Report
164 posted on 08/23/2005 9:40:21 PM PDT by Allan Bartlett
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To: Uncle Vlad

I have ofen thought that they are trying to keep the dems around as a viable opponent....not me. In my opinion when you have your enemy down, you DO NOT help him up, you step on his throat until you hear a pop followed by a death rattle.


165 posted on 08/23/2005 9:41:00 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Ew. This tastes like a monkey. A monkey that's past his prime. "Chris Griffin")
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To: QQQQQ
Yes, sure Bush is the real enemy according to you, right?

I support the President.

But I'm not a "BushBot", unlike some. If the President's wrong, I'll tell him he's wrong. I consider it a moral duty.

And on immigration, he's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY wrong.

You think he's right on immigration?

166 posted on 08/23/2005 9:55:38 PM PDT by America's Resolve (I've just become a 'single issue voter' for 06 and 08. My issue is illegal immigration!)
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To: Allan Bartlett
to start a Club For Growth sort of PAC or advocacy group to target open border Republicans in primaries and go against open border dems in the general. What does everyone think of this idea?

Heck YEAH.

167 posted on 08/23/2005 10:09:29 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: QQQQQ
Yes, sure Bush is the real enemy according to you, right?

I am sure you would be so happy if Gore or Kerry were president.

Aw, come on! Aren't we past all that "you're a liberal" kindergarten name-calling? This problem is bigger than any one individual or party.

The future of our nation is at stake because of the immigration crisis, and everyone from the lowliest citizen to the President must be held responsible for meeting and resolving the crisis in a way that preserves our national constitution, laws, sovereignty, unity and honor, i.e., that benefits every American. Don't you Bush partisans get that yet?

Grow up. Our nation needs some real adults on this issue.

168 posted on 08/23/2005 10:19:06 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: QQQQQ
In order to "step back" you first have to be "standing forward." If the US steps back any further, they will be in Canada!

Remember the CFR issued its policy statement long ago that there will be an open border with Mexico and Canada, and both parties are going to kow tow to that policy. This means the state of Mexas, Mexifornia, New Mexico and Mexizona are all in line for more of the same for the foreseeable future.

Also, if they can condemn your land to put up a shopping center, they can certainly condemn your land for a fence. However, if you are waiting for the government to condemn you land for a fence, you are quite safe, I'd say. I'll never happen.
169 posted on 08/23/2005 10:50:17 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: QQQQQ

"Let see, the thread is nearly eight hours old. Have they stopped yet so we can go home? They will lose interest soon, won't they?" said Mr. Chertoff.


170 posted on 08/23/2005 10:54:01 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: QQQQQ

171 posted on 08/23/2005 11:21:35 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: QQQQQ
Reacting to a public outcry is one thing. Let's see if there are any additional protection & enforcement improvements at the Mexican / U.S. border over the next couple of months - or this is another stall tactic?

A sign in Mexico points to the pedestrian point of entry into the US at the US-Mexico border in Nogales in April 2005. (AFP/File)

172 posted on 08/24/2005 12:07:38 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Map Kernow

David Dreyer was Cheerleader Galore for CAFTA. While I have mixed support for/about/against CAFTA, I do know that CAFTA supporters are those Republicans, generally, who support 'open borders' and 'amnesty' masquereding as being "national security" enthusiasts.

They must have some secret knowledge that the rest of us citizens (and voters) just can't perceive, something along the lines of "open borders equals improved national security" or thereabouts, best I can tell so far.

I am recently disappointed in Cox, no less, it's been an eye opening experience. Dreyer, dunno, but I do believe there is more than enough enthusiasm and support for a very successful third party if the current Republicans in CA continue to be Democrats in Sheep's Clothing.


173 posted on 08/24/2005 12:26:52 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS

Good post.


174 posted on 08/24/2005 12:33:18 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: M. Espinola

I think it's more likely to be a stall tactic than a solution, and what I tend to also suspect is that it's the beginning of a take-it-or-leave-it-guest-worker-program-by-way-of-amnesty-because-the-border-is-just-too-impossible-to-conrol onset.

I honestly think that what's going to next appear is a 'get tough' but not about what most of us think should be gotten tough upon. I realize this is negative thinking but the statements indicating that there is consideration of "solving this once and for all" seems too straightforward for what has up to now been by the Bush Administration a determination to service illegal immigrants (and Mexico, particularly) at the expense of the rest of us.

The new corridor in/out of Mexico and Texas is not the portent of "increased border security" to my view, but easier access for even more illegal aliens.

What they probably have in the works is a "rewriting" as in change in nomenclature as solution: rename "illegal aliens" as "guest workers" and other appeasements.

Otherwise, a border fence in the South should be what they're constructing and should have been many years ago.

I know that many in CA support it and always have. And yet, we vote for increased border security and more, and what do we get but "commeeeoonnIINNNN" from the GOP. As to the Democrats, they're a lost cause about this issue. Most of us really did have hopes that the GOP would represent us on this issue, and it's very disappointing that they have not.


175 posted on 08/24/2005 12:33:31 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Map Kernow
Aw, come on! Aren't we past all that "you're a liberal" kindergarten name-calling? This problem is bigger than any one individual or party.

Another good post.

176 posted on 08/24/2005 12:34:25 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Black Tooth

Thanks but I am depressed about this. I did have hopes that to vote Republican in CA would bring about some solutions. Instead, it seems to be that my vote of confidence has been found insulting. As I wrote earlier, the Demos are a lost cause and I'd never consider voting for them again, but at least I get responses from even Feinstein and Boxer, believe it or not, that understand my complaints. Last I heard from Cox was very, very ridiculous.


177 posted on 08/24/2005 12:36:13 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: devolve

Bump that.


178 posted on 08/24/2005 12:37:22 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: dennisw

If I were president I'd tell Fox that I would treat this as a declaration of war.


179 posted on 08/24/2005 12:40:04 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Map Kernow

If by the "John and Ken" solution do you mean the horrid Edwards/Kerry ticket?

Like I wrote, voting for Democrats is even worse today than for Republicans but what I am finding very uncomfortable about the GOP in CA is this:

-- they withhold/fail/refuse to provide voters with explanations about their plans and intentions, leaving us to expect things that they later reveal they intended either the opposite or not anything related

-- they offer candidates that are marginal at best and actually discourage voting as a Republican as to candidate leaving many of us to try to continue to exercise the 'faith vote' as to party only (better than not voting)

-- they aren't strong and persistent and effective enough about conservative concerns and embarrass voters afterward when important issues become secondary to the eventual negative campaigning in CA by the persistently negative Democrats


That's for starters. As I wrote, the Demos are even worse so I'm not even going there but the GOP has a lot of work to do in the sincerity department if it wants to maintain any voter support in the state other than hardcore party-liners who want what the Demos want anyway: bigger government, lax security ("too expensive" and "hurts the bottom line") and just about anyone here in the state from wherever because they're source of cheap labor ("helps our bottom line").

Depressing place, California.


180 posted on 08/24/2005 12:42:28 AM PDT by BIRDS
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