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Once again, proof that embryonic stem cells aren’t the only “miracle” cure for all that ails us. And more importantly, understanding how crocodiles heal points to a pretty intelligent design in nature.

Actually, there isn't any proof that embryonic stem cells are of any value.

1 posted on 08/18/2005 6:15:34 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
Go RUSH, anybody want to ping the evols????
3 posted on 08/18/2005 6:18:17 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: wagglebee
*** Actually, there isn't any proof that embryonic stem cells are of any value.***

They are to the embryo!

:)
4 posted on 08/18/2005 6:20:39 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: wallcrawlr

Intelligent Design Ping!


5 posted on 08/18/2005 6:20:50 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
And more importantly, understanding how crocodiles heal points to a pretty intelligent design in nature.

Can you say "non sequitur"? I knew you could!

7 posted on 08/18/2005 6:23:26 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: wagglebee

I see nothing there indicative of intelligent design, just the results of a vertebrate having adapted for life in an environment where there is possibility of extreme infection (a swamp). In fact, what I see is the result of natural selection, ie, those croc with stronger immune systems lived to breed and those with weaker systems died. Most mammals never emerged from swamp dwelling creatures and thus never had need to develop such resistant immune systems.

Interesting article, though.


8 posted on 08/18/2005 6:25:07 PM PDT by Bombardier ("Religion of Peace" my butt.....sell that snakeoil to someone who'll buy it!)
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To: wagglebee

Suspect: Dr. Curt Conners AKA The Lizard
Paging Spiderman

9 posted on 08/18/2005 6:26:37 PM PDT by philo (They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist. . . . Union General John Sedgwick last words)
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To: wagglebee

Not just Crocs. Komodo Dragons have so many varieties of nasty bacteria in their mouths that they can normally give a deer, pig or human one good bite, and if the prey escapes they just hand around and wait for it to die of disease. The Komodos, meanwhile, are immune to all these nasty bugs.

As far as intelligent desgin theory, why do people insist on separating the Creator from Creation?


13 posted on 08/18/2005 6:34:31 PM PDT by Ostlandr (NeopaganNeocon)
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To: wagglebee

SPOTREP - ID


19 posted on 08/18/2005 7:03:08 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: wagglebee
Wait until PETA and the pro-death abortionist lobby get together on this one.

It's okay to kill babies for stem cells and genetically engineer life, but don't think of using croc blood to actually try to cure human diseases, that's animal cruelty.

22 posted on 08/18/2005 7:12:40 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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And more importantly, understanding how crocodiles heal points to a pretty intelligent design in nature.

So why didn't God give that boon to human beings, then? Or at least to the Jews? It seems rather--I don't know--haphazard to squander something so great on crocodiles alone.

But then, many IDers will shrug that off by saying "the Lord works in mysterious ways," and without any trace of irony.

30 posted on 08/18/2005 7:54:42 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: wagglebee
Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity With New 'Intelligent Falling' Theory

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4133&n=2

46 posted on 08/19/2005 7:25:24 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: wagglebee

bttt


47 posted on 08/19/2005 7:25:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

that's right. ADULT stem cells hold promise but not embryonic.


54 posted on 08/19/2005 8:01:19 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: wagglebee; All
The "Rush Rant" from the 2nd hour on Monday is on now.
70 posted on 08/19/2005 9:29:13 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (The modern Democratic Party: Attacking our defenders and defending our attackers.)
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To: wagglebee

How will humans develop crocodile immune systems?

This will certainly require a miracle. Because one of the other things that crocodile immune systems do very well is destroy human cells.


87 posted on 08/19/2005 11:31:17 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: wagglebee

"Actually, there isn't any proof that embryonic stem cells are of any value"

Embryonic stem cells (and I think any stem cells, really) can turn into similarly located cells around them. Depending on what you'd call "proof", this seems very valuable. Its proof enough for me. Thenk God for Bill Frist and Nancy Reagan.


96 posted on 08/19/2005 11:45:37 AM PDT by mudblood
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To: wagglebee

Dear Wag:

Embryonic stem cells can actually cause cancer.


127 posted on 09/03/2005 10:56:00 AM PDT by attiladhun2
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