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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 14
Various News Outlets | 8/12/05

Posted on 08/12/2005 10:38:31 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aruba; arubancorruption; beth; bethandjug; boringstory; boycottaruba; carloscharlies; courageousmom; daviejoneslocker; deepak; deepkrap; disappear; drugcartel; enoughwiththis; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; ghb; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kalpooeys; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway
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To: Dolphy
The following strikes me strange. Nowhere can I find the Mansur's name even though it is said that they own 60% of the island.

Welcome >>> ATIA <<< General information of Aruba

Before starting a company on Aruba, it's important to know how everything works. And to know what kind of problems you can expect. On this page all the general information of Aruba is located, the Frequent Questions page is to answer the most common question of people for businesspeople here.

261 posted on 08/12/2005 8:24:34 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: stlnative

Thanks for getting those and posting stlnative. Great!!


262 posted on 08/12/2005 8:25:46 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: stlnative
For Leads in Natalee's disappearance email:
investigation_for_natalee@yahoo.com

For Words of Encouragement for Natalee's Family email:
hope_for_natalee@yahoo.com
263 posted on 08/12/2005 8:26:03 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: nuntukamen
its my understanding beth had the phone configured for international calls after natalee went missing, so she could call her own number and beth would answer, no matter where she was

That was my understanding as well nuntukamen.

264 posted on 08/12/2005 8:27:19 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

THanks!


265 posted on 08/12/2005 8:27:40 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Howlin

Howlin it is a conundrum.

The boys, we think, did the deed.

The cover up involves LE, polis chief and who knows else.

There are nefarious people on Aruba. Mob influences are present. Everyone knows everyone else.

There are alot of Croes. Some are in law firms that handle banks doing money laundering. The kids on Aruba are wild.

Did I miss anything. The context is important,,crime, corruption, the mob. The crime is simple, if you ask me.

I think Joran is crazy, crazier than sociopathic. But that is just me, nobody else thinks that.

We think Tito wants a girlfriend. Arubans hate us but need us {1/2 of their GNP is from American tourism}

We are beginning a classification of trolls.


266 posted on 08/12/2005 8:31:07 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: TexKat

The Mansurs are agents so to speak of the more dangerous Cuntreras/ ? {cant remember the second name} Cosa Nostra family whose head was married to Pablo Escobar's sister. They are notorious. Long article on them,,Rothschilds of the Caribbean.

But from that article the Mansours came in and sort of picked up the mantle when the CN was sent out.

The CN owned the island, owned it. Now the Mansours sort of run it. But they are not CN.


267 posted on 08/12/2005 8:34:26 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: maggief; cajungirl

Dr. Capi Wever


268 posted on 08/12/2005 8:35:04 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

It is all on my FR Profile page if you need it in the future.


269 posted on 08/12/2005 8:35:55 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: TexKat

Cute, where did you get that.


270 posted on 08/12/2005 8:36:10 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: stlnative

Thanks!!


271 posted on 08/12/2005 8:39:07 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
I don't know in what context ownership is used but the reference may not be to brick and mortar type ownership. From your link:

Principal Imports

Crude oil, food, consumer goods, machinery, textiles, transport equipment.

Much of what makes the island go round is imported and the Mansur name is often associated with trading companies.

272 posted on 08/12/2005 8:39:48 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: cajungirl
Cute, where did you get that.

Google image search for Wever Aruba.

273 posted on 08/12/2005 8:40:22 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: All

Tito is killing me - he actually wore a pale purple shirt tonight on Greta's show (even though Tammy Faye Baker's sister was in hosting for Greta)


274 posted on 08/12/2005 8:41:09 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: TexKat

no problem

(I wonder how long it took Tito to find and buy a purple shirt today?)


275 posted on 08/12/2005 8:43:32 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: TexKat
Have y'all checked out the family ties of the Kock family?

One of them is the lawyer for the Kalpoe boys, another runs the Aruba Lottery, etc. etc. etc.

Seems to me HE's the one with the power...got his boys out.

276 posted on 08/12/2005 8:48:07 PM PDT by demsux
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To: cajungirl

Beginning? I thought they had BEEN here all along.....LOL.

I am just so busy these last few weeks I haven't been able to do anything except scan.......and hear a few bits and pieces on TV.

But he really said that she was raped and murdered? Even if he said Deepak did it, why would he say that if it wasn't true in some fashion?

If all that you said is even half true, the question I have is WHY would they go to all that trouble/crime spree for Joran?


277 posted on 08/12/2005 8:48:37 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dolphy

"....and the Mansur name is often associated with trading companies."

esp the licensed distribution of Phillip-Morris tobacco products throughout the Carribean and gen vicinity.....a lot of this distribution was noted by the Canadian govt to be (ahem) duty-free.

this has been posted before:
The Rothschilds of the Mafia on Aruba

http://www.tni.org/archives/tblick/aruba.htm


278 posted on 08/12/2005 8:52:33 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: presently no screen name

Thanks again for the ping!!


279 posted on 08/12/2005 8:56:48 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Howlin

"....the question I have is WHY would they go to all that trouble/crime spree for Joran?"

shango said "dirtyhand has a couple of cards to play"

the obstruction (if not the crime itself) seems to be the cards being played.


280 posted on 08/12/2005 8:57:17 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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