Posted on 08/04/2005 9:43:31 AM PDT by Alex Marko
JERUSALEM (AP) -- A passenger on an Israeli bus opened fire on Thursday, killing three people, an Israeli police spokesman told Channel 2 TV, in an apparent argument among passengers. Five other people were wounded. The TV report said the gunman, in an Israeli army uniform, was captured by police. The gunfire erupted as the bus was on a road in Israel's north near the town of Shfaram. The spokesman told Channel 2 that the gunman was a soldier, three people were killed and several others wounded, and the gunman was captured. Channel 2 said the incident was not a terror attack.
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I've read Teplukin's prevous postings, and it's obvious that he's not real. I think that he's playing a game, and trying to get FReepers to adopt this Nazi slogan.
If you look at his previous posts, he takes positions that are gross exaggerations of conservative positions. For example, he has posted that a husband has a right to have sex with his wife whenever he wants to, and she has nothing to say about it; Mexicans are good because they reduce the cost of American companies doing business; and if SUV's cause global warming, then that's fine with him even if it is problematic for people who live on the Gulf of Mexico.
Mainly, he takes a didactic tone, purporting to speak for all FReepers, and urges us to support President Bush in anything and everything that he does, and then he pushes his Nazi slogan as though it is a FReeper slogan.
This is transparently obvious once you read his previous posts.
What he is doing is very dangerous for Free Republic, because in the future, anyone who does a Google search of that Nazi slogan will find numerous citations to it on Free Republic. Unless he is banned from Free Republic, this problem will only continue. Fortunately, I don't believe that anyone here has adopted his Nazi slogan of blind obedience to authority!
I think it was Eric Hoeffer who said something to the effect that the citizens of the Jewish state were the only people in the world expected to be perfect Christians.
"the radicals who don't work" What, posting on FR 24 hours a day isn't work?
Thanks for the ping!
I seem to remember that there was an orthodox sect in New York City that at least opposed the creation of Israel in the 1940s well into the 1950s. But maybe I'm reading too much fact into Chaim Potok's "The Chosen"
Fresh Jewish blood always brings them out. Satanic jackals.
'Unfortunately, I also read that the shooter was lynched by a mob'
This reminds me of Baruch Goldstein. Not that I condoned his actions, but isn't it amazing that it is just assumed as fair that the "mob" should take the law into their own hands (when it concerns arabs against jews), when the world would be up in arms if the Israeli army, instead of calmly dis-arming captured suicide bombers, would beat the crap out of them and then string up their pulverised bodies and display their blood covered hands.
Isn't it just a truism that blood-lust behavior is expected and given a pass only for the Arabs.
'Every time these settler idiots chose to cause a ruckus, they are directly, and indisputably embracing leftie values by trying to embarass our President.'
Do you REALLY think that people who are losing their homes, livlihoods, and being forced to leave what they believe is Israeli land, are thinking about President Bush's standing on the world stage?
Killed only two? you're a pathetic human being. Go hang around with McVeigh and Bin Laden.
Lubavitchers actually serve in the Israeli army and Lubavitchers have referred to the founding of the Israeli state as "the beginning of the flowering of our redemption."
The Satmars (the largest Ashkenazic Orthodox group) are more ambivalent. They do not oppose the existence of the state of Israel, but they believe that it has no right to compel Jews to do anything and that it has no right to permit the violation of Torah laws. Only the government of the Messiah can truly legislate for Jews. Satmars do not do mandatory military service, etc.
The Sephardic Orthodox groups are enthusiastic supporters of Israel, and the smaller Ashkenazic groups more or less waver between more Satmar and more Lubavitch approaches to the question.
The Neturei Karta are the only ones who openly oppose Israel and support the PLO and there are maybe 1,000 of these.
They used to claim that the Satmars agreed with them, but the Satmar rebbe publicly repudiated them and their position two years ago.
Thank you, Herr Goebbels.
>>Lubavitchers have referred to the founding of the Israeli state as "the beginning of the flowering of our redemption."
Not true. The Lubavitcher Rebbe was vehemently opposed to using that expression to refer to the secular state of Israel. The Rebbe's position is based primarily on concerns for the safety of the Jewish people living in Israel and around the world. Lubavitch supports Israel in terms of it being the home for millions of Jews but does not ascribe any holiness to the state itself and in fact views it as having delayed the true redemption.
I think they would agree that the redemption is delayed by the sinful laws of the Israeli state (permissiveness in violation of Kashrut, sexual immorality, etc.) but they also feel that the ingathering which Israel represents is not in itself a bad thing, but a wonderful phenomenon.
I don't know what your Lubavitch co-workers think but the Lubavitcher Rebbe clearly opposed referring to the state of Israel as "the first flowering of our redemption". That phrase is generally used by religious zionist or mizrachi Jews, never by Chabad. I can quote you the sichos where the Rebbe said this but I need to look them up.
Yes, the ingathering of the exiles is definitely a positive thing and a precursor to the redemption.
My feeling as well. The next time Islamic gang members brutally butcher Israelis we shall see if the one's all worked up on this thread will utter one word - about murdered Israelis.
Mourners gather around the coffin of the bus driver who was killed in a bus shooting, during his Christian funeral in the northern Israeli town of Shfaram, Friday, Aug. 5, 2005. Four Israeli Arabs were gunned down Thursday by a Jewish soldier opposed to Israel's impending pullout from the Gaza Strip. The soldier, identified by the military as 19-year-old Eden Natan-Zada, boarded a bus in Shfaram Thursday and opened fire, killing the driver and three passengers, and wounding 13. (AP Photo/David Guttenfelder)
The ratio of cold blooded killings lies squarely on the side of the Arabs and always has.
The Satmars are the Hasidic dynasty that opposes political Zionism. They also opposed the PLO and its supporters.
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