Posted on 08/03/2005 4:04:27 AM PDT by leadpenny
Roadside bomb in western Iraq.
Sometimes I can't help but think would Truman have done it this way? What if he had?
Sure, more Iraqis are making the ultimate sacrifice -- as they should for their own country.
Am I to assume you believe the Syrian border hold a treasure trove of goodies that may break the WoT open? Hope you're right...
But until that happens, it's not fair to ask American Forces to hold the fort for Iraqi Muslims indefinitely. Moreover, word is resentment amongst the general populace is growing ever more resentful of our presense.
Some are, but with Americans fighting and dying for an Iraqi "Musocracy," why bother?
" "We are supposedly there now as consultants and trainers, in addition to our ongoing humanitarian efforts."
Don't know about "supposedly," LE, but you're right -- our presense by now ought to have been more along those capacities at this juncture of time.
Instead, our guys are still having to exterminate this vermin while being hogtied by stringent Rules of Engagement as to not "offend" the world OR the Democrats.
Chill you old fart!
My biases come AFTER working with both organizations. Read my profile and you'll see that my work there was as a civilian.
Of course, the Army didn't treat the US civilians like prisoners and enemy forces. There was a USMC 0-5 that learned a very expensive lesson from his "F'ing" with US civilians over there. And I was there when it happened.
The Army, Navy, USAF didn't frisk US civilians at the DFAC or make them remove any clothing....the USMC did and did it with fingers on triggers.
If you think that the enemy was ever intimidated by the USMC, you are sadly mistaken. And if you think that they are taking my year old observations and devising battle strategy from my FR postings, you are dumber than you sound.
If I had detailed with the Evil Squads do, that might be different. But I didn't.
But take my word for it, the Bad Guys know the differnce between the Army and the USMC way of doing things. That's why the Army was able to run convoys during the day and the USMC couldn't.
Me? I've convoyed through Fallujah at night with the USMC escorts and in the daytime with Army escorts.
So you can stuff you bad ass attitude and give it to someone that might give a dam aout what you think.
I do not believe that the Iraqis are asking us to totally hold the fort. A lot of them are dying in this fight...many more than our own losses. As time goes on, the balance will continue to shift, as it should.
Go tell someone else your contractor war stories. Stop f'ing bragging, you sound like a Zapata a'hole.
Do you skip to the last page of who-dunnits too?
It breaks my heart to see our soldiers dying in Iraq. This war was wrong from the beginning. Months leading up to the war Bush would make daily speechs about Iraq's WMD. He sent Colin Powell with "hard numbers" on WMD to sell his war to the UN. The CIA was given deliberately false testimony on WMD per Colin Powells own admission. There were some people trying to tell the CIA prior to the war that there wasn't any WMD. Some top officials in the CIA stated that they don't care if there is any or not we're going to war.
If we are trying to fight terrorism why did we not go after Saudi Arabia where 18 of the 19 hijackers came from. Can someone tell me why we didn't lean on North Korea more for having an illegal nuclear weapon and being threatened by their dictator? Oh thats right, we can handle that crisis through "diplomatic" means.
LOL...I spent more time over there than most troops!
I went to more places that did most troops...and I was unarmed!
And I was just a pogue! And I outranked most of the military there with my GS rating. How do you like that?
For some reason, the Navy, the USAF and the Army were all easy to deal with. But the USMC seemed to be extremely fixated on our paychecks and civilian status. Yep, they were jealous of us and resented us greatly.
Seems like you do too. lol...too bad.
(at least I have my identity from my own exploits, not my son's or my father's or my spouse's)
Have a nice day.
Don't believe the horse crap about no WMD's in Iraq.
They were training for offensive use of chemical weapons and I've been inside some of their training facilities and seen the training material myself.
Lay them so thick that the snakes will hesitate to cross.
BUMP
Thanks for outing yourself.
(BTW, didn't you mean the FIRST Amendment?)
I'll bet it's tough to keep enough ice at the koolaid stand in this weather!
Outing myself? You come diddy bopping into a thread entitled "14 Marines killed in Iraq" and rag on the Corps? Who outed themselves as a bitter person with a score to settle?
And as for this:
"(at least I have my identity from my own exploits, not my son's or my father's or my spouse's)"
That is just pathetic. I wouldn't share a light with you, let alone anything about me.
Yep, I messed up on the Amendment.
Keep talking, hoss.
You're right. It's worth noting that the whole "weapons of mass destruction" argument was never really behind the war in Iraq to begin with -- it was part of a very transparent propaganda campaign to garner public support for the war.
And I outranked most of the military there with my GS rating. How do you like that?
For some reason, the Navy, the USAF and the Army were all easy to deal with. But the USMC seemed to be extremely fixated on our paychecks and civilian status. Yep, they were jealous of us and resented us greatly.
I agree.
And it is important to remember that we still haven't lost the number that were murdered on 9/11.
And we've prevented (so far) another 9/11 or worse.
Compared to a WMD, this is a sad but necessary price to make sure a WMD sized death at a Rose Bowl doesn't happen.
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