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Islam's Mansour O. El-Kikhia: "I don't give a damn what your fellow hate-mongers say or think"
San Antonio Express News ^

Posted on 07/30/2005 4:52:49 PM PDT by quesney

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To: quesney
approaching a tipping point

I think with London we are well past the tipping point. Even Blair and the French have gone over the edge. The only question is whose side you are on as we sort it all out.

21 posted on 07/30/2005 5:16:25 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: quesney
Islam is a cult that asks the ultimate of its members, yet requires very little beyond absolute obedience to its medieval and backward preachings.

One day the complacent world will wake up to the horror that islam will visit upon the believers and non-believers alike. This fresh evil will soon set islam on the road to damnation.

22 posted on 07/30/2005 5:17:50 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: quesney

Bullshit you Imam!


23 posted on 07/30/2005 5:18:48 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: quesney

""" There is nothing American Muslims can do to satisfy this group short of packing up and leaving the United States. """

Absolutely wrong. If this is your attitude, then yes, you all will have to pack up and leave. But it is not because us Americans are stupid. As a matter of fact I think YOU are stupid. Take responsibility and deal with the problem, or don't, and all will fail for you. Look what we have achieved. Look what has been achieved in the name of allah. Need anyone say anymore????


24 posted on 07/30/2005 5:20:38 PM PDT by InsureAmerica (the only free cheese is in a mousetrap)
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To: quesney

None of them care and none of them belive what they do is wrong. If they really did, they could not possibly be Muslims.

164 ways way to wage war against NON muslims. IN the Muslim "holy" book.

http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html


25 posted on 07/30/2005 5:21:24 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: quesney
I think the Muslims - all of them - have a fatal flaw: like Liberals, they think everyone except themselves are stupid, weak, incapable of action, wrong, contemptable, etc.

They are ignorant of world history. Americans in particular are capable of extremely well organized campaigns of individual and group self-defense, that is, extraordinary violence.

The Muslims have not studied our Revolutionary War. The violence they now infilict on us (and Jews, and Spaniards, and the English) is nowhere near as devastating or effective as that used by the Colonists AND the Loyalists against each other during that time.

That ability continues today. It has through all our wars, especially the Civil War in which the stakes were very personal.

The Muslims have made the same mistake, in a very different way, that the Japanese made by attacking Pearl Harbor. In the words of the great Japanese Admiral, "I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant".

Well, rag heads, we are not asleep this time.

26 posted on 07/30/2005 5:24:50 PM PDT by DesertWalker
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To: quesney
". . . Islam rejects all acts of violence outside self-defense."

Yes, publicly when questioned...

...but secretly and in their dreams, probably over half of them cheer the terrorists on.

27 posted on 07/30/2005 5:26:37 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: quesney
More important, it was the British and the United States that drew first blood. The Middle East didn't come to America or go to Britain; rather, America and Britain went to the Middle East.

Junk history.

28 posted on 07/30/2005 5:26:37 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: DesertWalker

Well done.


29 posted on 07/30/2005 5:29:13 PM PDT by InsureAmerica (the only free cheese is in a mousetrap)
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To: DesertWalker
"I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant".

Lets hope to God that its not a Sleeping Democratic Giant!

30 posted on 07/30/2005 5:33:41 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: Bahbah

More important, it was the British and the United States that drew first blood. The Middle East didn't come to America or go to Britain; rather, America and Britain went to the Middle East.


...and what is America (and the west) doing there? Trying to help (not rule or occupy or dictate but, help) the good people of the Middle East set up a democratic based, equality based (including women's equality) society rooted in mutual respect for different opinions and a free press. If this is what is causing terrorism, then Islam is even more diseased than I expected


31 posted on 07/30/2005 5:40:21 PM PDT by Firefox1 (America and Britain to Middle East)
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To: quesney
CAIR knows better, and those running it know that Islam rejects all acts of violence outside self-defense.

Another one who never reads the Koran.

Or is it Takiyya being used to confuse us infidels. - tom

32 posted on 07/30/2005 5:41:13 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Firefox1

It is not possible to improve on your comments.


33 posted on 07/30/2005 5:42:40 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: quesney

Good job.


34 posted on 07/30/2005 5:42:49 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: CondorFlight
Here's a summary of the first 100 years of islam, from the islamic server at USC. I've highlighted the few times they veered from the way of peace:

632: Death of the Holy Prophet. Election of Hadrat Abu Bakr as the Caliph. Usamah leads expedition to Syria. Battles of Zu Qissa and Abraq. Battles of Buzakha, Zafar and Naqra. Campaigns against Bani Tamim and Musailima, the Liar.
633: Campaigns in Bahrain, Oman, Mahrah Yemen, and Hadramaut. Raids in Iraq. Battles of Kazima, Mazar, Walaja, Ulleis, Hirah, Anbar, Ein at tamr, Daumatul Jandal and Firaz.
634: Battles of Basra, Damascus and Ajnadin. Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph. Battles of Namaraq and Saqatia.
635: Battle of Bridge. Battle of Buwaib. Conquest of Damascus. Battle of Fahl.
636: Battle of Yermuk. Battle of Qadsiyia. Conquest of Madain.
637: Conquest of Syria. Fall of Jerusalem. Battle of Jalula.
638: Conquest of Jazirah.
639: Conquest of Khuizistan. Advance into Egypt.
640: Capture of the post of Caesaria in Syria. Conquest of Shustar and Jande Sabur in Persia. Battle of Babylon in Egypt.
641: Battle of Nihawand. Conquest Of Alexandria in Egypt.
642: attle of Rayy in Persia. Conquest of Egypt. Foundation of Fustat.
643: Conquest of Azarbaijan and Tabaristan (Russia).
644: Conquest of Fars, Kerman, Sistan, Mekran and Kharan. Martyrdom of Hadrat Umar. Hadrat Othman becomes the Caliph.
645: Campaigns in Fats.
646: Campaigns in Khurasan, Armeain and Asia Minor.
647: Campaigns in North Africa. Conquest of the island of Cypress.
648: Campaigns against the Byzantines.
651: Naval battle of the Masts against the Byzantines.
652: Discontentment and disaffection against the rule of Hadrat Othman.
656: Martyrdom of Hadrat Othman. Hadrat Ali becomes the Caliph. Battle of the Camel.
657: Hadrat Ali shifts the capital from Madina to Kufa. Battle of Siffin. Arbitration proceedings at Daumaut ul Jandal.
658: Battle of Nahrawan.
659: Conquest of Egypt by Mu'awiyah.
660: Hadrat Ali recaptures Hijaz and Yemen from Mu'awiyah. Mu'awiyah declares himself as the Caliph at Damascus.
661: Martyrdom of Hadrat Ali. Accession of Hadrat Hasan and his abdication. Mu'awiyah becomes the sole Caliph.
662: Khawarij revolts.
666: Raid of Sicily.
670: Advance in North Africa. Uqba b Nafe founds the town of Qairowan in Tunisia. Conquest of Kabul.
672: Capture of the island of Rhodes. Campaigns in Khurasan.
674: The Muslims cross the Oxus. Bukhara becomes a vassal state.
677: Occupation of Sarnarkand and Tirmiz. Siege of Constantinople.
680: Death of Muawiyah. Accession of Yazid. Tragedy of Kerbala and martyrdom of Hadrat Hussain.
682: In North Africa Uqba b Nafe marches to the Atlantic, is ambushed and killed at Biskra. The Muslims evacuate Qairowan and withdraw to Burqa.
683: Death of Yazid. Accession of Mu'awiyah II.
684: Abdullah b Zubair declares himself aS the Caliph at'Makkah. Marwan I becomes the Caliph' at Damascus. Battle of Marj Rahat.
685: Death of Marwan I. Abdul Malik becomes the Caliph at Damascus. Battle of Ain ul Wada.
686: Mukhtar declares himself as the Caliph at Kufa.
687: Battle of Kufa between the forces of Mukhtar and Abdullah b Zubair. Mukhtar killed.
691: Battle of Deir ul Jaliq. Kufa falls to Abdul Malik.
692: The fall of Makkah. Death of Abdullah b Zubair. Abdul Malik becomes the sole Caliph.
695: Khawarij revolts in Jazira and Ahwaz. Battle of the Karun. Campaigns against Kahina in North Africa. The' Muslims once again withdraw to Barqa. The Muslims advance in Transoxiana and occupy Kish.
700: Campaigns against the Berbers in North Africa.
702: Ashath's rebellion in Iraq, battle of Deir ul Jamira.
705: Death of Abdul Malik. Accession of Walid I as Caliph.
711: Conquest of Spain, Sind and Transoxiana.
712: The Muslims advance in Spain, Sind and Transoxiana.
713: Conquest of Multan.
715: Death of Walid I. Accession of Sulaiman.
716: Invasion of Constantinople.
717: Death of Sulaiman. Accession of Umar b Abdul Aziz.
720: Death of Umar b Abdul Aziz. Accession of Yazid II.
724: Death of Yazid II. Accession of Hisham.
725: The Muslims occupy Nimes in France.
732: The battle of Tours in France.

So much for the "you hit us first" argument. The Christian Church did not go to war - for 1000 years - until attacked by the "religion of peace".

35 posted on 07/30/2005 5:44:21 PM PDT by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: quesney

Good, then we are in perfect agreement.


36 posted on 07/30/2005 5:46:25 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: quesney

I like the part aboot him packing up and going home.


37 posted on 07/30/2005 5:48:21 PM PDT by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!)
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To: FreedomCalls
Yea, shooting hundreds of small children in the back as they were running away at Beslan was "self-defense". Blowing up young girls in front of an Israeli mall is "self-defense".

I don't really understand this new idea but the Libs sure do.
38 posted on 07/30/2005 5:49:35 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: quesney
Islam needs to excommunicate those that are violently abusing the name of Islam
Until they do, they are de facto approving of the violence in their name.

Refusing them admittance to Mecca would be a good start.

39 posted on 07/30/2005 5:49:45 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (When Frist exercises his belated Constitutional "Byrd option", Reid will have a "Nuclear Reaction".)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Is there any -- and I ask this sincerely -- possible analogy with people who kill abortion practitioners claiming they are serving God by doing so?

It would seem so, at first glance. The difference is this: those who kill in the name of Jesus do so in spite of His teaching; those who kill in the name of muhammed do so because of his teaching.

Think that's just intolerant blather? Sit down and study the history of both religions, especially noting the eras closest to the founders. You'll see a big difference, trust me.

Furthermore, the guys who bomb abortion clinics don't hide among christians and in their churches. They don't openly preach some kind of holy war from our pulpits.

40 posted on 07/30/2005 5:53:03 PM PDT by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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