Posted on 07/30/2005 6:25:56 AM PDT by pabianice
Don't like Hillary? Join the club!
Political insiders mostly agree: Despite being an early front-runner for the 2008 Democratic nomination, Hillary Clinton faces long odds of ever being elected president. But if she can't win, why can't she?
One facile argument, often voiced by Hillary-loathers on the right, is that she's too far to the left. The "real" Hillary is closer to Howard Dean than Bill Clinton, a recent piece in the National Review asserted. Wrong! An unhedged supporter of the war in Iraq, Sen. Clinton stands at the hawkish, interventionist extreme of her party on foreign policy. Despite her pandering vote against CAFTA, she's a confirmed free-trader and deficit hawk. On the cultural issues that often undermine Democrats, she seeks common ground, sometimes with flat-earth conservatives like Rick Santorum, and has been nattering about the "tragedy" of abortion. Even Hillary's notorious government takeover of health care was misconstrued as an ultra-lib stance. In opting for a mixed, private-public managed-competition plan, the then-first lady was repudiating the single-payer model long favored by paleo-liberals. Her plan was flawed in many ways, but it wasn't what Ted Kennedy wanted...
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But she still lacks a key quality that a politician can't achieve through hard work: likability. As hard as she tries, Hillary has little facility for connecting with ordinary folk, for making them feel that she understands, identifies, and is at some level one of them. You may admire and respect her. But it's hard not to find Hillary a bit inhuman.
By November 2008, the public will be so tired of the continuing mounting American casualties in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria, and likewise of the claims that there is light at the end of the tunnel that just about anyone the Democrats nominate will have a fairly easy shot at winning.
I don't think so...in fact, as far as I can tell, Hillary has no real political beliefs in anything beyond the acquisition of power. I think the far leftists see that as well as we do. It's the murky middle that really never follows politics that get easily confused.
the Democrat fringe groups will vote for a zombie as long as he has a "D" after his name.
You will see Bill's face in the MSM more than Hillary's, and Bill does know how to win.
Why can't she win? Because people who have never voted and never intend to vote again will show up at the polling sites to vote against her like they're cashing in a winning lottery ticket.
but then most republicans dont even know Dubya is a Rino, YET..(denial?)
Camelot issue of Bill Clinton BACK INTO the White House is ALWAYS NEVER mentioned.. (Jaws theme).. Must simply be too scary for most "HERE" to formulate words.. (or is that Comealot..) no matter, the issue IS not ignored by most all future Hillary voters..
"We are going to takes things away from you for the common good!"
That Hillary?
This slogan needs to be on the front burner whenever she opens her mouth for a statement. Keep it alive!!!
She scares me right now.........
Read Ed Klein's new book, and she will scare you even more!!!
Condi would beat her big time!!!
She needs Ohio? Yes...but not if she can pick up some closer red states like Colorado, Nevada, Iowa, New Mexico, and one Southern state..VA seems to be getting shaky,..
Because she doesn't like to campaign and really never has yet. A lot of folks seem to forget how she was pretty much given her Senate seat. Her campaign kept her pretty much insulated from the realities of a traditional campaign: her audiences were carefully structured, her press interviews carefully planned out, etc. Everything was carefully orchestrated.
She could never run a presidential campaign in that way.
As for Hillary, the loony left may get mad but I have no doubt they will vote for her.
So what!??! That will NOT be enough. There is something called the red States!!!
Hillary can win simply because she's very likely to be the Democratic nominee. John Kerry had to be the worst candidate since McGovern or Mondale, and he came this close to winning it all. By just having her name on the general election ballot gives her a chance at winning.
How much of a chance? Depends on who the Republicans run. Depends on what type of candidate Hillary turns out to be. I imagine Hillary will be a lousy candidate, because she's unlikeable. However, that'll be evened out by the media propaganda machine behind her. If the GOP runs a weak candidate, or there's a 3rd party spolier in there......I don't like to think about it.
The only way she could receive the Democratic Presidential nomination in the same way is every other big name Democrat was willing to set aside their own ambitions for the White House and just give it to her (which I believe there's as much chance of as Hillary being Playboy's Miss September). Otherwise she's going to have to actually campaign...something she has never done and hates.
I agree, she'll be a lousy campaigner, but no Democrat is going to be a serious challenger to her. Kerry had his nomination wrapped up by, what, February or March? Hillary will have it in the bag before then. She controls the media, and she controls the Democratic cash. Richardson, Iowa governor what-his-name, Bayh, they can't compete with that. Besides, will any of them really want to take on Hillary? Bad things happen to Clinton enemies, particularly if they're Democrats.
I'm just hoping we come up with somebody who can walk and chew gum at the same time to challenge her.
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