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BBC: Man shot dead by police on Tube ~~ Witness sees a bomb belt
BBC ^ | Friday, 22 July, 2005, 14:25 GMT 15:25 UK | staff

Posted on 07/22/2005 7:55:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Man shot dead by police on Tube

Stockwell Tube station

Police have cordoned off a 200-metre area around the station

A man has been shot dead by police at Stockwell Tube station in south London, as officers hunt four bombing suspects.

Police are also searching an address in London's Harrow Road. Resident Patricia Osbourne said she heard six shots.

Scotland Yard said the raid was one of several taking place in the city after Thursday's attempted bombings.

BBC correspondent Danny Shaw said there were unconfirmed reports police had said the man shot at Stockwell was the Oval bomb suspect.

Passenger Mark Whitby told BBC News he had seen a man of Asian appearance shot five times by "plain-clothes police officers" with a handgun.

They pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him

Witness Mark Whitby


BBC correspondent Graham Satchell, at the Harrow Road incident, said the focus of the large police presence appeared to be an internet cafe.

As well as armed officers in body armour, there were about seven police vehicles and an ambulance, he said.

People in the area were "nervous", he added.

Station evacuated

Police have cordoned off a 200-metre area around Stockwell station. The incident followed four attempted bombings in the capital on Thursday at Oval, Warren Street, Shepherd's Bush stations and on a bus in Shoreditch in east London.

Passengers were evacuated from Stockwell station, which is on the Northern Line and Victoria Line.

Teams of forensic officers are working inside the station, and police helicopters are hovering overhead.

Services on the Victoria and Northern lines were suspended following a request by the police.

Mr Whitby, told BBC News: "I was sitting on the train reading my paper.

"I heard a load of noise, people saying, 'Get out, get down!'

"I saw an Asian guy run onto the train hotly pursued by three plain-clothes police officers.

'Bomb belt'

"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him.

"I saw the gun being fired five times into the guy - he is dead," he said.

BBC Home affairs correspondent Margaret Gilmore said officers had challenged a known suspect they had been following.

"He ran, they followed him. They say they gave him a warning, they then shot him.

"They brought in the air ambulance. They did everything they can to revive him. He died at the scene."

Police had warned they would shoot to kill if they believed somebody to be a threat, she added.

BBC crime correspondent Neil Bennett said the suspect was being followed as a result of CCTV footage seen by officers investigating Thursday's explosions.

It's vital the police give a statement about what occurred and explain why the man was shot dead


Muslim Council of Britain

The Muslim Council of Britain said Muslims were concerned about a possible "shoot to kill" policy.

Spokesman Inayat Bunglawala said: "There may well be reasons why the police felt it necessary to unload five shots into the man and shoot him dead, but they need to make those reasons clear.

"It's vital the police give a statement about what occurred and explain why the man was shot dead."

Another passenger on the train, Anthony Larkin, told BBC News the man had been wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out".

"I've seen these police officers shouting, 'Get down, get down!', and I've seen this guy who appears to have a bomb belt and wires coming out.

"People were panicking and I heard shots being fired."

The man burst in through the door to my right and grabbed hold of the pole and a person by the glass partition near the door

Passenger Dan Copeland

Former Flying Squad officer, John O'Connor, told BBC News: "The man shot must either be one of the bombers or a potential suicide bomber."

Bombers "don't always carry sports bags" and the man could easily have been wearing a bomb belt, he added.

If he had been challenged by police and failed to stop they "have not got a lot of alternative", Mr O'Connor told BBC News.

Officers would be trained to aim for the head as shots to the torso could trigger a hidden explosive device, he added.

Londoner Dan Copeland was in the carriage in which the man was shot.

He told BBC News: "We were sitting for a few minutes on the platform, then we heard shouting from the concourse between the two platforms.

I worry about travelling on public transport. We have just got to get on with life

Commuter


"Then the man burst in through the door to my right and grabbed hold of the pole and a person by the glass partition near the door, diagonally opposite me.

"An officer jumped on the door to my left and screamed, 'Everybody out!'

"People just froze in their seats cowering for a few seconds and then leapt up.

"As I turned out the door onto the platform, I heard four dull bangs.

"I ran past an armed officer who was standing on the platform and ran up the stairs."

The bus driver found a rucksack split open on the top deck



After Thursday's London blasts, the bombers fled when detonators went off, causing small blasts, but failed to detonate the bombs themselves.

A massive hunt is under way for the men. Analysts believe evidence from the four scenes could throw light onto the bomb attacks carried out on 7 July.

The attempted attacks caused travel chaos across the capital, with several lines closed and Tube stations evacuated.

Scotland Yard commissioner Sir Ian Blair said the attacks had been intended to kill people.

1: Witnesses report seeing up to 20 plain clothes police officers chase a man into Stockwell Tube station from the street

2: One person says the man vaulted the automatic ticket barriers as he made his way to the platforms

3: The most direct route is via this escalator or the staircase that sits alongside it

4: After running onto a northbound Northern line train, he is shot dead by police



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What?! The Bobbies are carrying guns now? Don't tell the gun grabbers.


41 posted on 07/22/2005 8:21:20 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg

Can anyone tell me why the Muslim Council of Britain is acting like THEY are the victims???

Because one of 'their own' was shot. It's as simple as that. 'Assimilation' means being able to behave in any manner one chooses, including killing other people. It's our 'job' to 'understand' their 'anger and frustratons' that merely 'drive them' to these acts. Double BARF!


42 posted on 07/22/2005 8:23:21 AM PDT by hardworking (If we can teach a nation to stop smoking surely we can teach a nation to not get pregnant.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I am very encouraged that we have not seen more of an outcry from the Left. I think they are finally realizing that when people start dying, things change. The police put five bullets into this guy because they had a reasonable expectation that he had a bomb. After all, they had him under surveillance and had followed him from his home. That makes a lot of sense to the average Brit.

After two attacks in two weeks, I think the Brits are saying, "Do what you have to do." Still, I am surprised the Left isn't more vocal. Maybe they realize all their arguments evaporated with the 57 people who died two weeks ago.

43 posted on 07/22/2005 8:23:28 AM PDT by Pete
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To: 1066AD
And almost as tho' they're assuming the guy was a muslim too LOL

Good point.

44 posted on 07/22/2005 8:24:22 AM PDT by null and void (It's a bad day for Lord 'Mo'domort's Death Eaters...)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Muslims were concerned about a possible "shoot to kill" policy.

Yeah, we've been concerned too. Why did it take so long??


45 posted on 07/22/2005 8:25:29 AM PDT by hardworking (If we can teach a nation to stop smoking surely we can teach a nation to not get pregnant.)
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To: mlbford2
Londoners are a lost liberal cause

You like to paint with a wide brush, don't you?

46 posted on 07/22/2005 8:25:41 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: hardworking

Nautie nautie.....No profiling.

You'll upset the Muslim Council. Now, report to your nearest C.A.I.R. center for re-training.


47 posted on 07/22/2005 8:26:10 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Pete
"I am very encouraged that we have not seen more of an outcry from the Left"

Give them time, it's early days yet

48 posted on 07/22/2005 8:26:59 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: hardworking

I'm glad that the London police "understood" this guy in the train station five times....I really think the political correctness is going to wane. Sooner or later people in our country and others are going to get damn tired of looking over our shoulder.


49 posted on 07/22/2005 8:28:07 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg
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To: Rummyfan

If the suspect possibly has his hand on a trigger then you shoot him even if you have him down. I think our cops in the same situation would have kept their distance and fired with a higher chance of other casualties. Good for the Brit police!


50 posted on 07/22/2005 8:28:19 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: TomGuy

Gosh, you're right. I should run right out and buy a Koran so that I can 'git edukated' - maybe I'd better sign up for a night class called 'Loving the Muslime who wants to kill you' class at the local publik hi-skool.....


51 posted on 07/22/2005 8:28:43 AM PDT by hardworking (If we can teach a nation to stop smoking surely we can teach a nation to not get pregnant.)
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To: Kelly_2000

Thanks...

I looked, but I could not find it.

That's what happens when you are trying to plan a party, watch the tour de France, follow the news, and FReep all at the same time.

Is this report by Brunt the only source though? Nothing official?

Anyhow, good riddance and good shooting by the cops.


Have a good weekend.

Cheers.


52 posted on 07/22/2005 8:28:55 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Kelly_2000

i was not online 4 hours ago and would not have seen it. Good job, reposting.


53 posted on 07/22/2005 8:29:34 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Nice shooting mates !!


54 posted on 07/22/2005 8:30:35 AM PDT by traumer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Muslim Council of Britain said Muslims were concerned about a possible "shoot to kill" policy.

The Muslim Council had better be worried about their "bomb to kill" policy. Cause if they don't stop it free people will with whatever means they have available.


55 posted on 07/22/2005 8:31:16 AM PDT by lakeman (when a marine kills the only thing he feels is the recoil of his rifle)
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To: TomGuy

The photos are pretty good.Bet they can clean em up(whatever it's called),and get an even better photo.I was ambivalent about surveylance cameras,but i'm re-thinking...


56 posted on 07/22/2005 8:31:45 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: Eurotwit
Hi Eurotwit it's the only source I can find at the moment. But as I say the BBC tends to be half a day behind the other guys.

have a great weekend too :-)

57 posted on 07/22/2005 8:32:23 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: lakeman

"They pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him "

- Witness Mark Whitby


58 posted on 07/22/2005 8:32:37 AM PDT by traumer
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To: mlbford2

"Savage said it best yesterday. If these bombers were in the US, they would have been beaten to death by US civilians. The Brits(Londoners) just stood around(with a stiff upper lip) and did nothing after their bombs fizzled.

If this happened in the suburbs of London, these bombers would have been killed by the Brits. Londoners are a lost liberal cause."

Why is it that even with allies, victims, that conservatives always find a way to put others' down?

Of course we all fancy ourselves as brave, but Americans, even when they knew their man was a terrorist, allowed him to hold them hostage with box cutters. Savage can spare me his false bravado. Besides, I wouldn't tackle anyone if armed police were on the job.


59 posted on 07/22/2005 8:34:09 AM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: ThanhPhero

No problem I figured that was the case and thanks:-)


60 posted on 07/22/2005 8:34:40 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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