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Preserving modesty in the pool (Muslim women in Seattle)
Seattle Times ^ | July 19, 2005 | Lornet Turnbull

Posted on 07/19/2005 1:03:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

It's Saturday evening, the end of a hot day, and a group of women and children have gathered at North Seattle's Meadowbrook Pool for their monthly swim.

Most of the pool staff has left, except for two female lifeguards, who on this day will be on duty for the next two hours.

The women and children — all Muslims — have been swimming in private once a month at Meadowbrook as part of a program organized by the North Seattle Family Center.

Because Islam requires Muslim women to fully cover themselves in public, swimming in pools or the ocean is largely off-limits for many.

But across the Puget Sound area, that's starting to change as public and private pools at times are sending home their male staff members, covering up their windows and allowing women of faith to swim alone and in private...

Access to these pools is not free; the groups, like all others that use these facilities, pay a rental fee....

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bathingbaathists; bleeding; dhimmitude; falsemodesty; heart; in; islam; liberalapologists; liberals; liberalweakness; modesty; muslim; muslimamericans; muslimwomen; privacy; purdah; religionofpeace; religionoftolerance; seattle; sharia; socialprocess; swimming; trop; ussacrifice; women
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To: Mrs. Don-o
In some neighborhoods in the Netherlands, public pools are now "No-Go" zones for Dutch Women wearing normal one-piece or bikini-style swimsuits , who end up taunted, harassed and physically assaulted by the muslim "men" in attendance.

Celebrate Diversity.
241 posted on 07/19/2005 4:35:56 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: SunnySide

EXACTLY what I was thinking! lol
This isn't about swimming! It's about community clothes washing!
Now what would happen if we called and asked to rent the pool to do laundry???


242 posted on 07/19/2005 4:37:58 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: T Minus Four
Well, ok, I see your point

Cool. We don't need to agree, but I appreciate that you see where my comment is from.

243 posted on 07/19/2005 4:49:40 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Your welcome. In fairness to the Orthodox Jewish ladies, the men would be upset too, particularly the husband.


244 posted on 07/19/2005 4:59:13 PM PDT by JewishRighter (Shoot 'em in the whites of their eyes)
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To: brownsfan
I'd guess that comes from a lack of exposure to human contact.

You have no idea how wrong you are. It seems like a pattern with you.

the rental agreement in a public facility can specify what type of clothing, or the inclusion of male lifeguards.

The rental agreement for private use is a contract with both parties finalizing the terms. If you don't like it, then take it to City Hall. Good luck.

The issue is private use vs public use and you want to mix public dictates into the terms for private use - and you call me arrogant?

245 posted on 07/19/2005 5:02:17 PM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: dagnabbit
In some neighborhoods in the Netherlands, public pools are now "No-Go" zones for Dutch Women wearing normal one-piece or bikini-style swimsuits , who end up taunted, harassed and physically assaulted by the muslim "men" in attendance.

Don't you think that


246 posted on 07/19/2005 5:03:50 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Bobbling... boggling ... oh heck, bring on the pie and root beer!)
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To: brownsfan

Refusal to to assimilate into society and a hatred for what our nation stands for is not a good thing.


247 posted on 07/19/2005 5:04:55 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: brownsfan

gradual step towards Sharia


248 posted on 07/19/2005 5:05:46 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: delacoert

"The issue is private use vs public use"

It's a public facility, therefore, dictating how it is used is within the scope of the public. If I rent something to you, I am within my rights to dictate what you can and cannot do with such thing. If you don't like it don't rent it.

Arrogant is the kindest thing I could think of for someone like you.


249 posted on 07/19/2005 5:19:55 PM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: Red Badger
he was wearing a FULL body robe and a headscarf. the temp was in the 90's. I felt so sorry for her..........

Umm, it's probably hotter than that where she comes from. Yet somehow, millions survive it.

250 posted on 07/19/2005 5:23:31 PM PDT by DameAutour ("If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.")
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To: dagnabbit
...taunted, harassed and physically assaulted by the muslim "men" in attendance.

The "men" who do that kind of thing should be stuffed with pork chitlins and sent back to the mosque.

251 posted on 07/19/2005 5:27:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Bobbling... boggling ... oh heck, bring on the pie and root beer!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Actually, Muslim women ARE now becoming suicide bombers, or haven't you paid any attention to this fact?


252 posted on 07/19/2005 5:30:04 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: chocolatewonka
When are people going to understand? A few more 9/11s and 7/7s should bring people around! Burying our heads in the sand won't change the facts.
253 posted on 07/19/2005 5:38:46 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: frogjerk
Also, I know a public pool where this is occurring and they capitulate and kick everyone out for the Muslims (Who pay no extra fee).

Do they let the nudists have a reserved time as well?

254 posted on 07/19/2005 5:47:51 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: brownsfan
It's a public facility, therefore, dictating how it is used is within the scope of the public.

Obviously, the private use guidelines of the public facility in question doesn't meet with your approval. As I said before, tough 5hit. If you don't like the private use guidelines then take it to City Hall. It's a public facility, therefore, dictating how it is used is within the scope of the public.

If you read the whole article, you would see that is exactly what happened. Arrogant is the kindest thing I could think of for someone like you.

From you, the greater the insult, the higher the praise.

255 posted on 07/19/2005 5:51:01 PM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: DameAutour

"Umm, it's probably hotter than that where she comes from. Yet somehow, millions survive it."

Umm, millions survive it ..miserably. As the women in the middle east survive beatings, oppression, honor dismemberment, etc. I guess that's okay with you since YOU and the middle east men don't ever have to experience the degradation, objectification and abuse the mid east women do.


256 posted on 07/19/2005 6:02:17 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: DameAutour

" Umm, it's probably hotter than that where she comes from. Yet somehow, millions survive it."

That sort of remark no doubt was said about the Jews when they were locked up in train cargo containers on the way to the oven camps during WWII. It was probably hot, yet somehow some survived it.


257 posted on 07/19/2005 6:09:36 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: podkane

modesty an underappreciated virtue these days.."


It has nothing to do with modesty and everything to do with not wanting a husband, brother, son, uncle, cousin to kill them for baring their face, neck, arms, legs, feet.


258 posted on 07/19/2005 6:10:56 PM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

This is BS. Why should Muslims demand segregated swimming at public pools? Let them open their own private swimming clubs like everyone else who wants special accommodations.

I'm an Orthodox Jew -- we also require segregated pools, which is why the local JCC has hours for men only, hours for women only, and hours for coed.


259 posted on 07/19/2005 6:20:31 PM PDT by Alouette (Just when I think liberals can't get any more stupid, I'm wrong.)
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To: SunnySide

You're comparing the natural temperature to Nazi trains?

Their coverings actually protect them from the sun a lot better than short shorts and tank tops. They aren't being tortured. I'm not saying I agree with the prudishness, I am saying that it is a stretch to imply the women must be suffering from the heat, and that this is another example of how evil Muslim men are.


260 posted on 07/19/2005 6:40:43 PM PDT by DameAutour ("If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.")
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