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Water balloon bombers may face charges [Dropped them from airplane]
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 7/7/2005 | Nate Carlisle

Posted on 07/07/2005 3:24:15 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Classic cars from all over the West traveled to Logan last weekend for the Cache Valley Cruise-In, but it's a low-flying airplane that has drawn police attention.

Officers are investigating two men who reportedly have admitted dropping water balloons from an airplane flying just a few hundred feet off the ground. The balloon bombing runs occurred early Sunday as Logan streets were filled with people attending the Cruise-In, the city's annual car show.

Police Lt. Rod Peterson said there were no reports of injuries or property damage, but the two men could face state criminal charges and be in trouble with federal authorities.

"I don't think they were thinking," Peterson said of the two men. "It was just a very dangerous, very foolish act on their part."

Peterson said the men were in a Cessna 150, a single-engine, two-person aircraft. The pilot was a 21-year-old Smithfield man who had a student license and was not authorized to have a passenger. His passenger was 22.

About 1 a.m. Sunday, Peterson said, the airplane made a pass over the Logan crowds and dropped water balloons. The airplane made another pass 10 or 15 minutes later and dropped more balloons.

"Of the pilot's own admission, he believes he was between 300 and 400 feet," Peterson said. "Those who were on the ground to witness it believe he was only 150 to 200 feet off the ground."

The lieutenant said the pilot shut off the plane's lights, but the aircraft was still visible from the ground. Peterson said the passenger was the one dropping the balloons and there is some discrepancy about how many were dropped, but the passenger has admitted to dropping a total of five balloons.

The passenger said he was aiming for a Smith's grocery store parking lot.

Peterson found the two men at the Logan airport. When first questioned, they denied being in the air or in the airplane, but they later admitted their roles, Peterson said.

The pair have suggested they dropped the balloons because they had friends below, Peterson said.

Peterson said he expects to meet this week with the Cache County attorney to determine whether criminal charges will be filed. He also plans to turn his case over to the Federal Aviation Administration, which could revoke the pilot's license.

ncarlisle@sltrib.com


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Utah
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To: jayhorn
"They were going to drop them on their friends?"

The friends should have fired back with laser pointers.

21 posted on 07/07/2005 3:55:03 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Publius6961
Wowsers! Let's see what I come up with from the FAA.

1. Student pilots are not to fly with anyone except an instructor.

2. You are not to turn your lights off at night.

3. Dropping an object is also a no-no.

4. Flying this low over a populated area is not to be done.

What did I miss?

22 posted on 07/07/2005 3:59:34 PM PDT by american_ranger
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

My Flight instructor for my CFI told me once:

"I can teach even a monkey to fly, but I can't teach judgement!"

At 21, these kids need to grow up fast!


23 posted on 07/07/2005 4:00:20 PM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: LouD

"This joke could have easily killed someone".



A water balloon? Sorry, the ballistics just don't support this.


24 posted on 07/07/2005 4:01:36 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

When I lived in Boston, used to drop water balloons from our fraternity house on scientologist recruiters on the Back Bay. All during the miserable winter. Didn't bother me a bit.


25 posted on 07/07/2005 4:03:14 PM PDT by battlecry
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Did I miss the pilot's name in the story? I don't suppose either of them is named Mohammed.


26 posted on 07/07/2005 4:04:53 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: american_ranger
What did I miss?

Flying without a brain?

27 posted on 07/07/2005 4:06:42 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: american_ranger

When I soloed, a student could fly at night. I think that has changed (I've been wrong before though).


28 posted on 07/07/2005 4:08:48 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: steveo
They set somebody up the balloon...

What you say?
29 posted on 07/07/2005 4:10:58 PM PDT by DarkSavant (I touch myself at thoughts of flames)
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To: SouthernFreebird
Les: It's a helicopter, and it's coming this way. It's flying something behind it, I can't quite make it out, it's a large banner and it says, uh - Happy... Thaaaaanksss... giving! ... From... W.... ... K... ... R... ... P!!

Les: No parachutes yet. Can't be skydivers... I can't tell just yet what they are, but - Oh my God, Johnny, they're turkeys!! Johnny, can you get this? Oh, they're plunging to the earth right in front of our eyes! One just went through the windshield of a parked car! Oh, the humanity! The turkeys are hitting the ground like sacks of wet cement! Not since the Hindenberg tragedy has there been anything like this!

Johnny: Les? Are you there? Les isn't there. (composing himself) Thanks for that on-the-spot report, Les, and for those of you who just tuned in, the Pinedale Shopping Mall has just been bombed with live turkeys. Film at eleven.

Jennifer: But Mr Colly, a lot of turkeys don't make it through Thanksgiving!

Venus: Les! Are you okay?

Les: I don't know. A man and his two children tried to kill me. After the turkeys hit the pavement, the crowd kind of scattered, but some of them tried to attack me! I had to jam myself into a phone booth! Then Mr Carlson had the helicopter land in the middle of the parking lot. I guess he thought he could save the day by turning the rest of the turkeys loose. It gets pretty strange after that.

Andy: Les, c'mon now, tell us the rest.

Les: I really don't know how to describe it. It was like the turkeys mounted a counterattack! It was almost as if they were ...organized!!

Mr Carlson: As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
30 posted on 07/07/2005 4:12:31 PM PDT by oh8eleven
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To: jaydubya2

IIRC student pilots are required to log several hours of night flight.


31 posted on 07/07/2005 4:12:41 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

First, let me agree that these guys had a long list of stupid things they did. I would rank flying the plane as their worst. That said, let's not overrate the water balloon danger.

From 200 feet, they could be going 75 mi/h max, but air resistance would cut that down a bit, maybe 60 mi/h. Water has a pretty low density compared to a rock. The air would also flatten the bottom of the balloon and increase its area. I doubt they would kill anyone. I bet they weighed about a pound, which would be a pint. If they were a quart (quite a hefty water balloon) that would be 2 pounds. Water is a heck of a lot softer than a rock or a baseball, unless your freeze it, but then it's not a water balloon. Don't tell me that "at that speed, water is hard as rock." Not true at all, especially when it is not tightly bound. (A 2-liter bottle could kill someone since the carbonation pressure makes the bottle very hard, but I doubt the water balloon would.) Think of being hit by a major league pitcher throwing a water balloon . Then cut the speed almost in half, which cuts the energy to roughly 1/3 if we go with 60 mi/h.

Now, I'm not volunteering to try it out because it would likely hurt a bit if it hit me in the schnozz and I'm not allowed to get wet.

Repeat, it WAS a very stupid set of events these guys pulled off.


32 posted on 07/07/2005 4:13:00 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

"As God is my witness, I thought the water balloons would bounce!"


33 posted on 07/07/2005 4:13:55 PM PDT by mikrofon (Uh-huh)
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To: ARCADIA

Thanks. I'm wrong again.


34 posted on 07/07/2005 4:15:53 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: oh8eleven

LOL -- mere moments...


35 posted on 07/07/2005 4:16:02 PM PDT by mikrofon (Kick the KRP out of them)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

This reminds me of a couple of Einsteins some years back who pulled the same prank. The difference was they were commercial pilots for a small branch airline and they waterbombed the tower at the San Luis Obispo (CA) airport. Needless to say they're no longer employed as pilots and we're all the safer for it.


36 posted on 07/07/2005 4:21:00 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

jokes are supposed to be funny.

this was stupid and dangerous.

The student pilot should be disqualified from holding a license for at least 30 years.


37 posted on 07/07/2005 4:21:18 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Can't anyone take a joke, these days?

Gravity is not funny at 300 or 400 feet.

38 posted on 07/07/2005 4:21:24 PM PDT by oldbrowser (You lost the election.....get over it.)
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To: jaydubya2

Under Part 61 of the Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs), you must receive a total of 40 hours of flight time, including a minimum of
20 hours of flight training from a certificated flight instructor, including at least
3 hours of cross-country, i.e., to other airports
3 hours at night, including
One night cross-country flight of over 100 nautical miles (NM) total distance
10 night takeoffs and 10 landings to a full stop at an airport


39 posted on 07/07/2005 4:24:07 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: jayhorn
A couple of hundred feet was what the article says. I bet they were much lower when thrown. Foolish none the less, but I would hope the perpetrators factored in the height speed thing.
40 posted on 07/07/2005 4:26:33 PM PDT by TBall
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