Posted on 06/23/2005 6:51:09 PM PDT by CHARLITE
In the sixties, many of us were pulled to the left because we thought it was the ideology of liberty. Duped by a false caricature of the conformist fifties as a neo-Puritan, repressed enemy of the individual, we were attracted by the spontaneous, exuberant celebration of individual freedom we thought characterized that decade.
Those of us with intellectual pretensions further asserted that the sixties sensibility was squarely in the American tradition of autonomous individualism. Surely, as the movie Easy Rider suggested, the hippy was the new mountain man, the new Huck Finn, the new frontiersman and so, more quintessentially American than that conformist, buttoned-down "company man" worried that he'd get fired for folding, spindling, or mutilating something.
Well, we were wrong for many reasons. We ignored the confusion of license and liberty, ignored the destructive consequences of liberating the appetites from social restraints, and most of all, ignored the simple fact that the hippy "if it feels good, do it" creed had been appropriated by a totalitarian ideology that has been history's greatest enemy of freedom and the individual. By the early seventies it was clear that the New Left's hijacking of the hippy movement had resulted in a new conformity, one more sinister and destructive than what we thought was so oppressive in the fifties.
(Excerpt) Read more at victorhanson.com ...
This is Victor David Hansen:
ad hominem! Defend vdh, if you will1
An Auto bio is not a Bio.
Your position? uh... you tossed fuel on a fire, made defamatory remarks about a very good article and then refused to provide any position or even the links to the article you expect people to go read.
get some sleep, you seem rather too grumpy to be posting tonight :-)
My goodness, you have problems.
Perhaps you're right. Good night. (But, research VDH and Post modernism before worshiping him for saying some emotionally appealing things...)
"Still reading? I can't hear you!"
Ok.
Hear this.
You have issues.
Please break down on another site. This one has enough flakes and nuts.
Why you spam me with FReepmail when you have failed to address the obvious fact that you have confused VDH with another Hanson associated commercially with 'Positive Thinking'.
Although "PoMo Guru Victor David Hanson" has a certain cognitively dissonant ring to it. ;^)
Have a nice day.
LOL! I hope he figures it out, I did all I can do.
Do you even know what ad hominem means? You certainly don't know how to support an argument. See, in a logical argument, you need facts to support your conclusion. You have nothing to support your odd contention that VDH is some cult leader...or follower, whichever. Nothing but an invite to us to Google, which is like me telling you Bill Clinton is on LSD, and claiming I supported it by saying you should google "LSD" and "Clinton."
I have been given no cause to doubt VDH, who is widely respected here on FR and in the real world, based upon your fanciful 'attacks.' If you'd given me any, I'd consider investigating.
As it stands, instead of defending VDH, I'll just laugh at you. You're kinda funny, not in a telling-a-joke way, but in a being-a-joke way.
Maybe I shouldn't do that, though. After all, I'm due at my postmodernist cult meeting, the one at Victor Davis Hanson's house, where we all worship positive thinking and put off good vibes and get all wacky and stuff. /sarc
Well, I did a search for VDH and Postmodernism and came up with this blurb from an old weekly standard article:
"Hanson places much of the blame for this decay on America's elites, who he says have fostered a cult of post-modernism, identity politics, and affirmative action - or, as he puts it, "diversity without standards." As a classicist, he sees this as nothing less than a renunciation of the intellectual tradition bequeathed by the Greeks.
"Multiculturism, in preference to a multiracial embrace of Western culture, has become what pulp was in the 1950's," he tells me..."Plato told us this was inevitable: The more you embrace a state-mandated egalitarianism for its own sake and radical democracy,...the more you will be driven to the common denominator of a therapeutic, happy-go-lucky culture, simple stories, low-brow entertainment, minimal expectations - rather than the hard work of using education to uplift the majority."
Or this:
"My curriculum is old-fashioned. It's a zero sum game, and there are only so many disciplines that will always exist: literature, mathematics, biology, hard science, foreign language, politics, philosophy. To make space, I would eliminate anything that has the word "studies" in it: ethnic studies, women's studies, cultural studies, American studies. That would free up about 25 percent of the current therapeutic curriculum."
These are not the musings of a post modernist. Hope that clears things up and we can move on to more important discussions such as "why are the folks at NRO such self absorbed pedantic weenies?"
hey, check his profile. He's a teacher.
That kind of explains everything. "I know what I'm talking about. I don't need to check my facts. Even though everyone is telling me I'm wrong, it just means that everyone else is wrong!"
If I got by butt handed to me the way he did I this thread, I'd retire my screen name in shame and quietly sign up for another.
The wit and incisive logic of your reply render me almost speechless. The only response I can muster that could even pretend to be in the same class as yours is something along the lines of 'yo mama.' But that would be a stupid response. So I'll pass.
You are obviously someone who needs the last word, no matter how silly. So go ahead. You have the last word. I will not reply to you further.
Ping
Thats gonna leave a mark.
Don't be so quick to back away from that view. He is now defending his original post.
Would that we were so lucky. If it did maybe we could identify these folks and put them somewhere they won't be a danger to themselves or others.
I'm more like, "rolled oats"...
Uhhhh... " D'you want grits with that? "
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